Friday 14 March 2008

Some Key Questions

Below are some key questions taken from The Times 21st September 2007
It is interesting to note that virtually nothing has changed since then and "we are still awaiting the arrival of the PJ!" When Will the PJ arrive? Who knows, it has taken them 10 months to get this far (nowhere)

Why are the “Tapas 9” key to solving the Madeleine mystery?

Kate and Gerry McCann were dining with seven British friends at a tapas restaurant in the Ocean Club resort when Madeleine was reported missing. The friends are crucial witnesses but have said very little publicly. Police sources have claimed there are inconsistencies in their statements to officers. The friends are Matthew and Rachael Oldfield, Russell O’Brien and his partner Jane Tanner and David and Fiona Payne and her mother Dianne Webster.

Did any of them see anyone taking Madeleine?

Jane Tanner told police that she saw a man walking away from the McCanns’ apartment at 9.15pm. Sources close to the couple have previously said that the man had a child wrapped in the blanket and was walking in a southerly direction. However, the London Evening Standard reported yesterday that Ms Tanner had seen man carrying a girl dressed in Madeleine’s distinctive pink-and-white pyjamas walking eastwards, towards the house of the official suspect Robert Murat, 33.

Do police believe this was a man abducting Madeleine?

Detectives refused to publicise the sighting for three weeks. Another witness, Jeremy Wilkins, is reported to have told police that he was in the area talking to Mr McCann and did not see the mystery man.

Did anyone else in the Tapas 9 notice anything strange?

Matthew Oldfield said he had checked on the McCanns’ apartment at 9.30pm. A source close to the McCanns had said he did not look into the bedroom where Madeleine was sleeping with the two-year-old twins Sean and Amelie. But the Evening Standard report claimed he saw the twins but did not have a view of Madeleine’s bed.

Was there anything strange about the room after Madeleine disappeared?

Mrs McCann was sure Madeleine had been abducted because the bedroom window was open and the security shutter was forced open, a source close to the family has insisted. Tests on the shutter showed no sign of forced entry. However, another friend claimed yesterday that the shutter had been left open.

When will the Portuguese courts decide what to do in the Madeleine case?

Pedro Daniel dos Anjos Frias, a criminal instructional judge in Portimão, has decided that there is no need for the McCanns to be reinterviewed at this point, hence the prosecutor’s statement last night. The threat of them having to return to the Algarve in the near future has been lifted. The judge must complete his rulings by today on a variety of issues. It is believed that he has already authorised the use of Mrs McCann’s diaries as evidence.

Could the couple still be charged soon?

Unlikely. LuÍs Armando Bilro Verão, the lead public prosecutor, must now decide if there is sufficient evidence to bring charges against them, if he needs to request the PolÍcia Judiciária to carry out further investigations or if the case against them should be dropped.

Why is it all taking so long?

Portuguese detectives are still waiting for the results of tests on samples being carried out by the Forensic Science Service laboratory in Birmingham. They are also believed to want to carry out further searches in the Algarve and possibly at the McCanns’ home.

So how long will the McCanns have to wait?

The couple can remain as arguidos, or official suspects, for eight months before the Portuguese police have to apply for a four-month extension. After this time they automatically cease to be suspects, but there is no requirement for the prosecutor to clear them formally.
Robert Murat, a British self-employed property consultant on the Algarve and the only other official suspect in Madeleine’s disappearance, has been an arguido for four months.

Why has there been so much confusion?

Portugal’s strict laws of judicial secrecy mean that nobody involved in a criminal investigation is allowed to reveal any of the evidence in the case. However, Portuguese police sources are regularly quoted giving incriminating details about the McCanns’ role in their daughter’s disappearance. Friends of the couple have increasingly been attempting to challenge these reports with their own interpretation of events. Both sides are actually breaking the law and could face up to two years in jail.

Why are the McCann’s early television interviews being scrutinised?

Commentators have seized on the lack of emotion shown by Kate and Gerry McCann during a series of televised statements and interviews in the weeks after Madeleine’s disappearance. It is claimed that this was an unnatural response and indicated that the couple were hiding something. In fact, criminal profilers had advised them to display no overt emotion in case Madeleine’s abductor “got off" on the sight of her parents in obvious distress. Off camera, they were deeply distressed and received help from counsellors.

How can the police establish Mrs McCann’s state of mind?

Prosecutors are reported to want access to Mrs McCann’s medical records to see if there is any history of illness such as depression which could explain why she would kill Madeleine. They are also said to want British police to carry out investigations into the couple’s relationship and personal history.

Could Mrs McCann’s handwriting be used as evidence?

A judge has authorised police to seize Mrs McCann’s diary and detectives want a graphologist to study the handwriting, it was reported yesterday. Alberto Vaz da Silva, a criminal psychologist and a handwriting expert, told the newspaper 24 Horas: “It would be possible to discover the temper and the character of the person in question. You can see if someone is lying or hiding something.” However, handwriting evidence is usually used only for forensic science purposes, not to determine a person’s emotional state.

Why were the McCanns allowed to leave Portugal if they are suspects?

The Portuguese authorities allowed the McCanns to return to the UK after they agreed to reside only at their home in Rothley and to return for further questioning if necessary.
Portuguese law states that after someone is declared a suspect, police have eight months to conclude the investigation into that individual. If they require further time officers can apply to the courts for a four-month extension.
If the McCanns refused to comply with a request to return to the Algarve for interview, Portuguese police could issue a European Arrest Warrant under which extradition can be carried out within six weeks.

Why has it taken so long to find the evidence that could implicate Kate and Gerry McCann?

The material was only collected at the end of July and early August in a review of the investigation carried out by Portuguese detectives with the help of British police and two sniffer dogs. Many of the samples are very small, containing just a few cells, while others are of poor quality because of damage by cleaning or simply the passing of time.
A full report of the findings will not be ready for weeks, but many results have already been passed to the Portuguese authorities.

What evidence were police looking for?

Detectives are searching for any evidence that proves Madeleine is dead or contradicts the accounts of Mr and Mrs McCann and other witnesses.

What is the most important forensic evidence?

It appears the Forensic Science Service believes it has discovered compelling new evidence, possibly from more than one source. Portuguese detectives told Mrs McCann repeatedly that they found traces of Madeleine’s blood in a Renault Scenic hired three weeks after she disappeared, suggesting that the missing girl’s parents used the vehicle to carry her body. It is possible to tell if the blood came from a living person or from a corpse, and even the time of death. However, some reports suggest that the quality of the blood sample was too poor to confirm the origin while others have denied any blood was found in the vehicle and claim it was other “bodily fluids”. Unless a body had been placed in a freezer, it would have badly decomposed during the warm weather; leaving a mass of traces invisible to the human eye.

Does any trace of Madeleine in the hire car prove she was killed?

No. Mr and Mrs McCann hired the car to buy new clothes in the town of Portimão a day before they flew to Rome to see Pope Benedict XVI. They then used it regularly for family outings and to collect friends and relatives from Faro airport. They continued using the car until shortly before flying home yesterday. Kate and Gerry and their two-year-old twins would have often carried in the car items used by Madeleine. These items could easily certainly carry Madeleine’s hair and minute traces of skin, dried blood, saliva and vomit. The same could be said of the holiday apartments used by the McCanns and their friends in the Ocean Club resort. However, if the blood came from Madeleine’s corpse the only other highly unlikely explanation would be that a previous hirer had moved the body.
One report suggested yesterday that Madeleine’s DNA had been found on the floor of the McCanns holiday apartment, but because of degredation it was based on an incomplete picture, with only 15 of the 20 genetic markers usually used for such analysis.

What is the DNA evidence that has supposedly been found by the Portuguese investigators?

Newspapers in Portugal have been reporting that “biological fluids” with an 80 per cent match to Madeleine’s DNA have been found underneath upholstery in the boot of the McCanns’ rented Renault Scenic. Some media reports claimed that another DNA sample with a 100 per cent match to that of Madeleine’s profile had been found in the car.

What would this tell us?

Perhaps nothing. If it was sourced from something such as a hair follicle or skin cells then that could have been one of Madeleine’s hairs that had stuck to the clothes of a family member or her “cuddle cat” toy that her mother carries. If it was from Madeleine’s blood or corpse, that could be more significant. The most important issue is the size of the sample found. If there was a substantial amount of material it is unlikely to be from accidental contamination and would indicate that Madeleine had been in the car.
Can investigators establish if the DNA sample comes from someone who was alive or dead?
Unlikely, according to British experts. A DNA profile does not change just because someone dies. You can tell if DNA has degraded but that can happen if, for example, it had been exposed to sunshine.

Does an 80 per cent match with biological fluids indicate that Madeleine was definitely in the car?

No. The sample will have been tested against a definite sample of Madeleine’s. A 80 per cent match indicates that profilers could find only 16 of the 20 markers usually used for such analysis and suggests that the biological traces are tiny and degraded. Additionally, the twins Sean and Amelie could share a high percentage of DNA characteristics as most siblings do.
What complicates the matter further is that all three of the McCanns’ children were born through IVF and it is unknown whether the couple’s sperm and eggs were used for conception.
What about the discoveries of the “cadaver” sniffer dog?

Mr and Mrs McCann were shown a police video of a sniffer dog used to find corpses “going crazy” when it approached the hire car. Reports also claim that is discovered the scent on the vehicle’s key fob. Mrs McCann is reported to have explained that in her work as locum GP she came into contact with six corpses in the weeks leading up to Algarve holiday.
This seems a high number for a locum GP working just a couple of days a week but would be easy to check against surgery records.
The crucial difficulty with the sniffer dog “evidence” is that it cannot distinguish between corpses. This type of dog is trained to find bodies, not identify where dead bodies have been. Crucially, they can become excited by other scents.

Read the full length Article here

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article2422967.ece

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dianeh said...

Well, I have to go. Shouldnt even have been on here this morning at all. Its Saturday, the kids are home and we have to go out in a little while.

But I wanted to hop on and discuss Shannon.

Once again, I am so happy with this news. I really did fear for her.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Dianeh,

I'd love to know how he fitted in the drawer. I'm not big, (as you can see from my avatar) and there is no way I could hide in one!

Interesting as you say.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Enjoy your Saturday Dianeh, Tell your little one, Tinkerbell said have an ice cream on her!

Anonymous said...

bye Diane

Yes, indeed, how on earth do you fit in the drawer of a bed like that ....?? then pull top down on top as well???

don't try this at home springs to mind.......

;o((

tinks have you mail????

Rosiepops said...

Night Helen don't work too hard!

See you tomorrow, love you avatar!

Anonymous said...

bye for now Helen......

Tinkerbell43 said...

Jane,

Nope! I havent had access for a couple of hours, it just keeps saying it cannot display the web page! aaaargh.

Rosiepops said...

Diane

looking forward to seeing more pictures, beautiful place.

Christabel said...

DIANEH,
Nite and Bless x

Rosiepops said...

Tinks

have you tried opening a new window and typing in www.hotmail.com and accessing it this way?
It sometimes works!

SeaWitch said...

Good evening, everyone!

Terrible news about the manner in which Marie Luz Cortes, died. Poor child. So unspeakably awful to know that her last moments were filled with terror and pain. There are no words to comfort her parents.


Fantastic news about Shannon Matthews, though.Absolutely the best.I hope people will leave her family alone now, and are patient enough to trust that the Police will deal appropriately with the person/s responsible for whatever ordeal she has been through.

I guess there's a lot to be said for old-fashioned coppering; getting out there, searching in a purposeful and logical manner, knocking on doors, speaking and listening to the public, and methodically following up on every piece of information.

The PJ may be 'gentlemen'(debatable, if blacking women's eyes is their idea of genteel) with degrees, but there's no substitute for discipline, organisation, common sense, people skills, listening ability, dogged determination, sound logic, good reasoning skills, humility and a spadeful of luck.

No degree teaches those qualities; that's why there's so much more to Police work than having letters after your name.

Pity the PJ haven't spent more time learning those lessons, and less time in the classroom.

Tinkerbell43 said...

No Rosie, I havent, thanks will give it a try now.

Rosiepops said...

Diane

Have a nice day. See you agin soon xxx

Anonymous said...

TINKERBELL

goole it?

or run, key in hotmail.com and see what happens????

odd as ok with me tonight. I assume therefore it's not down.

Anonymous said...

I mean GOOGLE oh dear.

fridayitis..... sorry

Rosiepops said...

Hi SeaWitch

Spot on as usual.

The PJ should know that you do not need a degree to enable you to listen to people and take notice of what they say, maybe the only degree the PJ need is one in common sense?

Anonymous said...

are you on xp or vista? TINKERBELL

Try clicking on start, run, hotmail.com and see what comes up then, can you do that??

Good evening Seawitch how are you?

Yes fantastic news re Shannon. So glad she was found.

Rosiepops said...

Hi Jane

what is a 'goole?' lol (does it sing in too?)

Tinkerbell43 said...

Bingo! Rosie you are a star.

Thanks for that.

Rosiepops said...

No problem x

Anonymous said...

ha ha yes, I had forgotten the 'singing' in ...hmmmmmm

you sorted hotmail out for Tinks Rosiepops, well done you.

There is nothing more maddening than a computer that does not respond. You want to chuck it from the roof.

Anonymous said...

I see Scarlett Keeling's mother has been served with a summons from Goa Police.

SeaWitch said...

Hi, Rosie and Jane,

This blog has developed nicely. It's a really nice place, full of interesting people.

Where is Maureen, though? You seem to be one mod down!

Anonymous said...

sometimes, Seawitch, sometimes.

Glad you were not on yesterday.

where have you been? working too hard again???

I gree with your post pointing out the differences in policing between PJ and Dewsbury......chalk and cheese......

Christabel said...

Jane,

differences in policing between PJ and Dewsbury.
I would say s**t and shovel lol!

Anonymous said...

yes, Christabel, yes, indeed.

aptly put.....

Rosiepops said...

Tinks

Apparently he is a very thin person they remarked on this earlier.
They also said that when she was carried out by the policeman she was clinging to him, I found this really upsetting to listen to.

SeaWitch said...

Jane,

LOL, yes, as always!

How's the weather up there? I take it you didn't get blown away in a hurricane? Are you still fffffffrrrrrrrreeeeeeezzzzziiinnngg??!

I had a funny moment one evening; thought I had an intruder in the house when I was in bed, and I was alone with my dogs because numbers 1 and 2 were at their father's house. I went downstairs ready to fight and found I had forgotten to shut my door; it was tapping occasionally when a gust caught it and sounded like footsteps!

Lucky it wasn't an intruder, because he would have picked on the wrong address......! And lucky for me, 'cos I didn't have to hurt anyone. LOL!

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi Seawitch,

You talk about funny moments, I had one of them where I wanted the ground to open up and swallow me.

Last summer, I got stung and had an allergic reaction, took myself off to A & E, arm was swelling and stinging like a good un, I waited for the triage nurse to see me, and when it was my turn, and I explained to him why I was there, he said ok and asked me where I had been stung and I said, KENT!

Anonymous said...

WELL SEAWITCH AND TINKERBELL

I AM IN EXCELLENT COMPANY IT SEEMS

ha ha ha Let's have a tea party, I will wear the hat, Seawitch can be Alice, and Tinks, you are the rabbit.

Rosiepops said...

LOL good job you are not from Arsenal!

Rosiepops said...

Tinks just thinking good job you do not speak with a list when telling him Kent too!

Tinkerbell43 said...

Jane,

Who are you nominating as the Mad Hatter, lol.

SeaWitch said...

Tinkerbell,

Hahahahah!

I was watching the coverage of Shannon Matthews on the news, everyone on the screen was tearful, and then you made me laugh out loud!

That's the second time someone here has given me a chuckle today!

;-)

SeaWitch said...

Tinks,

There's only one nominee for the Mad hatter - Jane's saved that role for herself!

;-P

Rosiepops said...

Don't you think this says it all? It was in the Times article I put up?

I just shudder in disbelief at the PJ.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What evidence were police looking for?

Detectives are searching for any evidence that proves Madeleine is dead or contradicts the accounts of Mr and Mrs McCann and other witnesses.

Anonymous said...

TINKERBELL

you will get in serious trouble using words like Kent here you know.

I said I would get my 'hat' so I must be the mad hatter. but from recent posts, that's debatable.!!!

It's open to change of course.

Anonymous said...

ChHNADOLL

PUT THOSE FISH N CHIPS DOWN AND GET BACK ON HERE....

;o))

Rosiepops said...

Who is mad as a March hare then?

Tinkerbell43 said...

Rosie,

PMSL, you never know where I'll get stung next! Its quite customary every summer. I'm usually the nutter you see running down the road with their arms and legs flapping about everywhere.

Anonymous said...

HHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

ROSIEPOPS, THAT'S NE OF YOUR BEST YET.

ha ha Arsenal. hahahahaha

I am shrieking here.

You are mad too, who do you want to be at our tea party?

Rosiepops said...

Tinks

This is why you get stung!

If you get a wasp or bee in the house just open the door and tell them to go and they do. If I get a stubborn one I wait for it to land put a glass over it slide a piece of paper under the glass and then take it to the door and let it go free.

Rosiepops said...

Jane

I was thinking about when the triage nurse asked where she had been stung, it is a good job Tinks does not suffer with a lisp, when she replied 'kent'

Tinkerbell43 said...

Rosie, yes, shoe & horn comes to mind.

I think the whole front page shows how desperate they were to try and find something, anything, that would fit Gonc's theory.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Blimey, didnt realise the time, I have to be up early. Have to Luv and leave you.

Nite everyone, see you sometime tom xx

Anonymous said...

god Rosiepops, do you hug tress and tak to plants as well?

I am with Tinks, as I emptied a garden area outside a National Trust House in Yorkshire, where my parents lived, as I put cup to my mouth, when, naturally I was speaking at the time, a lot, to find my lips land on a furry teacup which I thought odd. Then I saw this HUGE I MEAN H U G E Queen Bee, up went the cup, about 5 feet in the air, I heard this exceedingly loud shriek, it was me, and then saw my parents abou 60 yeards away in distance dashing madly towards their car.

boy was I mad.

They hadnpt paid. I got the bill and they refused to pay on account of my 'embarrassment factor''. They weren't amused. I thought this grossly unfair at the time.


Only you Rosiepops could calmly 'ASK A BEE OR WASP TO LEAVE' you sound like that Barbara Wodehouse was it?

Now, I mentioned before one of the antis' called us the WRI. So...here's my latest idea.

HOWZABOUT A NUDE CALENDAR????? I'll be July, who areyou all going to be? Wearing nothing but my Mad Hatter's hat. Tinks wth a Bee, lent by Gina, and ......


NURSE, NURSE ARE YOU THERE????


copywrite for this blog only not to be reproduced in any shape nor form on any other blog.

;o))))

Rosiepops said...

Well there is only four at the tea party of I remeber it correctly, so I'll be whoever is not taken!

Rosiepops said...

Good night Tinks, I hope the bee in Gonc's bonnet gets free and stings his fat Aresenal.

Sleep well see you tomorrow xxx

Anonymous said...

NITE TINKS, TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF.

can't type for laughing here, but to be serious, yes, the PJ seem to want the circumstances to fit their already made conclusions. You are right, shoe and fit.....

So wrong.

As evidenced today by Dewsbury Police......shows them up so much.

Anonymous said...

stop it Rosiepops I can't breathe.

Rosiepops said...

Jane

No I do not hug trees, but I do talk to plants and I talk to Mr Blackbird that seems to come down to talk to me when I go in the garden. I know he listens because his little head goes from side to side as he sits there. They are really beautiful male blackbirds, they look sleek.

Rosiepops said...

Jane

Which one is Tubby Gonc?

Anonymous said...

mmmmm

Mr Blobby?

billy bunter?
if anyone remembers him......

Mr Pickwick?

Hard to say, a Magnum gone wrong many years on?????

Anonymous said...

tinky winky
dipsy
la la

ah the Po Jay.....???

Anonymous said...

brings back mmories, my daughter adored the teletubbies.....

and rugrats

Anonymous said...

well, am off to catch up on stuff now and get a coffee too. Dry throat laughing.

You are wicked. enjoyed the laughs.

catch you soon, have a nice night. take care...........

;o)

chinadoll said...

You lot haven't got rid of me yet ha ha.

What a nightmare, could not access the site. Hubby had to seek technical support from Sky - changed the filter & lots of other nonsense. Poor man is drained now, bless.

Fish & Chips were lovely, thanks Jane.

chinadoll said...

Nice one Janegt,

Just managed to get back on and you do a disappearing act.

Get back here now you crazy mare.

Anonymous said...

hi chinadoll

Rosie has had me in stitiches, Just read back, It's really funny. Was just going for coffee, so am now, back in 2 minutes......want to hear your news. Why couldn't you get on?

googled off?

back in 2..............
;o)))

chinadoll said...

Hilarious Jane, ha ha,

So Rosiepops hugs trees and talks to the birds - is she pally with Prince Charles & Co.,?

Anonymous said...

back + coffee + twix....

so. wysiwyg what's happening with you? Did you read the last 12 or so posts? I couldn't breathe. Literally.

What month will you be on our nude calendar then;)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Rosiepops said...

China pally with the prince?

I said I talk to the birds, not shoot them!

chinadoll said...

Stop trying the shock tactics Jane.

What do you mean, the nude calendar?

If anyone wants to see a bit of flesh, there are plenty of bare faced liars on the other sites.

chinadoll said...

Pleased to hear it Rosiepops,

But do you get a reply?

and if so, does it make sense?

Anonymous said...

china

you didn't know rosiepops is a tellytubby did you? It's new.

we are also having a tea party

also a calendar girls WRI Blog Calendar to make £millions

Look at Tinks post re getting stung, A classic. Really funny.

chinadoll said...

Don't answer that Rosiepops,

take the fifth amendment.

Rosiepops said...

Yes I get a reply they tell me their name is Russell
you should take a 'leaf' out of my book. lol

chinadoll said...

Well, really Jane,

I am not a tubby and could not possibly take part in your calendar shoot lol lol lol

Anonymous said...

china

bare faced lie or bare faced cheeks?

let's not go there either.

Charles & co is that Camillia??????!!!! saving money and footprint by not flying so goes in a bl**dy huge boat instead??? That one????

SeaWitch said...

Evening China!

Nice to see you. Jane's on her own with the calendar - I'll stick to puppies and kittens!

Hope you're enjoying the start of your weekend.

chinadoll said...

Well, you really are such a petal Rosiepops.

Darned connection, still playing up.

chinadoll said...

Janegt,

Behave yourself,

I am not disclosing my cheeks to anyone and that is my final say on the matter.

Anonymous said...

CHINADOLL

to be serious for a mo, but what's a filter? Sky? Do they come out or was it one of those ridiculously expensive helpline numbers...where they do not understand what you are saying....

chinadoll said...

Hiya Seawitch,

Shouldn't you be working or something?

SeaWitch said...

Rosiepops,

I expect your bird conversations are far more interesting than the twitterings of the chattering classes.......

Anonymous said...

who woke you up seawitch?

hee hee

I still cannot work out this hiding under a bed, in separate drawers was it? I just don't get it, with police clearly battering down your door, what made him think they would not find them? I don't get this at all.

No doubt we will know in due course. That poor wee girl. She's only 9......

Did I read this right, it is the step father's brother's house? Is that correct?

SeaWitch said...

China,

I am actually allowed home occasionally, if I'm good.

And I was good for a whole ten minutes this week!

chinadoll said...

Something like that Jane, but at least I am back and up and running.

Seriously, the filter is situated between the phone socket and the computer and can cause havoc if it defects - don't ask me anything more technical Jane, it is not my bag. If you need to know more, email/phone and speak to the man himself.

Rosiepops said...

SeaWitch

I cannot see why Blackbirds read the Mail anyway, I thought they were more 'Telegraph' readers.

Anonymous said...

wow as long as 10 minutes seawitch? an all time high.

;o))))

I can't manage one.

Evidently.
Especially tonight. Rosiepop's posts have been really funny. Did you see what Tinks said, and Rosie's response? ;o))

chinadoll said...

Shame on you Seawitch,

Home for a whole ten minutes and wasting your time here. Why aren't you looking after your children.......I need to be critical and objective, to ensure your behaviour is beyond reproach.

Rosiepops said...

China are you talking about ADSL?

Flaming nuisance those things!

chinadoll said...

Rosiepops,

I can independently confirm that blackbirds are particularly partial to Telegraph posts, especially the male, when he sings the last song of the day.

chinadoll said...

Did I say male or mail?? duh

Rosiepops said...

China and Jane

remember you must think 'laterally'

especiallly about foooorrrreeeennnsssiiicccsss

chinadoll said...

Rosiepops,

Stop showing off with the technicalities - what was the ADSL?
Hubby thinks it may be the router?

Rosiepops said...

In case you didn't realise thinking laterally is 2345's new buz word, I think she got fed up with fooooooooooreeeeensics

Anonymous said...

fffffffffffancy that then.


so now we are on to
llllllllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaateral fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffinking

or in that person's case

llllllllaaaaaaavvattorrrriiiiallllll

chinadoll said...

Yes Rosiepops,

That particular poster has got his/her record stuck and thinks they are still on 4........rensics, when infact, they are still on 4...........play.

He/she is enjoying themselves, so much, they cannot change the music.

They should try using 4....thought instead.

Anonymous said...

sports' relief has nearly
£19 million now.
Great stuff.

SeaWitch said...

China,

Well, my lovely children have a much better social life than I do, so they have abandoned me as they do every Friday night!

I'm enjoying the relaxation, quite frankly, because I spent most of last weekend traipsing round second-hand car dealerships for the privilege of buying number 1 his first car.

However, they have managed to squeeze me into their busy diaries for Sunday dinner, and, oh, yes, we are having a lovely family outing to the cinema tomorrow evening.

Hmm, yes. They get to choose the film. So I have to sit through a horror movie.......

Aaaaaaarrgggh!

Rosiepops said...

The ADSL is the filter you have plugged in near where your telephone connection comes in.

you got back on, so it must be sorted? seems like a lot of people are having problems since we had the high winds!

Anonymous said...

in that case I volunteEr the ffffffffffooooooooooorrRRRRrrrensic person to be

la la


LA LA LA LA LATERAL FFFFFINKING????

chinadoll said...

I envy you Seawitch, and remember those days well.

Don't forget to take your own goodies to the cinema, unless you want to get ripped off by the franchise. Hilarious commentary on this subject, recently, on the radio.

Quality time with the family cannot be compared to anything else in life. Make the most of it hun.

Rosiepops said...

This is an ADSL filter.

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Computer_Accessories_Index
/ADSL_Filters/

SeaWitch said...

Rosie,

Maybe it's crows that read the mail, then.

What do you suppose Vultures read....?

Anonymous said...

SEAWITCH

A HORROR MOVIE? HMMMMMM

...BE LIGHT RELIEF FROM THE BLOGS FROM THE DARK SIDE THOUGH. ALMOST A COMEDY IN COMPARISON PERHAPS?

chinadoll said...

Rosiepops,

Hubby says that sounds about right.

Having said that, he often has problems with high winds or to put it bluntly, wind lol lol

Absolutely love him to bits really, a diamond amongst gems.

chinadoll said...

Vultures read entrails, divvy.

Anonymous said...

vultures read

VANITY FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFAIR

SeaWitch said...

China,

I know, I love it really.

I will moan about the boys making me watch a horror movie, because they find it amusing; it's our little bit of banter.

But I'll enjoy it all the same.

I have a friend - she's kind of like a mother to me, in her fifties, but you'd never know it. Whenever we go to the cinema, she insists on taking her own popcorn and a whole assortment of goodies, all packaged in the most crackly wrappings.

She then proceeds to open them only at quiet moments, and is totally oblivious to the glares and hisses that come our way!

What can you do with someone like that?!

chinadoll said...

Have you lot gone to bed without saying goodnight to me, or what?

chinadoll said...

Seawitch,

Just be grateful she has not got a camcorder packed amongst the popcorn - that would be embarassing.

chinadoll said...

Janegt,

Where have you wondered off to?

Get a coffee and get your....self back here.

SeaWitch said...

Vultures read entrails?

I thought they read the DX! Amongst other good reads....

Anonymous said...

ok who booted me off?????

JUST GOT BACK IN. EEEK, Gremlins....got another coffee as feel sick after that twix. I am not really a chocolate eater, but fancied a 'treat'....

whazzzzup???

Anonymous said...

hi china don't know what happened, but suddenly nothing. booted off. so had to switch off and start again. grrrrrrr.....

Rosiepops said...

sorry
I fell asleep!

Rosiepops said...

Now I am going to bed.

Good night all sleep well, at least Shannon's mum will be able to rest better tonight.

God bless Madeleine xxx

Please bring her home.

Anonymous said...

all the avatars have now disappeared, but you are still here. don't understand this nonsense.

someone else could not get hotmil to work tonight, and a couple o nights ago google went down periodically.

don't understand it.

Maybe Rosiepops has an 'ejector' button for posters she wants to go......hee hee hee. no, she would put a glass over our head, a piece of paper under us, and ask us to leave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


;o)

I would just say s*d off. I am nothing if not subtle.

SeaWitch said...

Me too. Night Rosie, China and the Mad Hatter!

x

Rosiepops said...

Jane

You are a complete nutter!

Now I have to go to bed laughing!

Anonymous said...

good night rosiepops, sleep well, see you soon.

thanks for your jokes tonight. Have filed them away to re-read again. ;o)))))))))))))

The avatars came up as you 'signed' off. ( got it right.....)

chinadoll said...

Yep that is a fact.

The good old DX days. Do you remember Rotheymere (Well, the vulture was a scavenger) and we were talking about vultures, weren't we? Say no more.

Jane,

I hope you are not logging off early, I lost my connection again- are you sending dodgy emails?

Seawitch,

Have a word with you know who, about Global imperialism, would you?

Anonymous said...

I am off too.

Good night, Rosie, China, Seawitch

Glad we were so rivetting you fell asleep Rosie...hee hee.....

no, I too have droopy eyelids.

nice talking to you

see you soon.

and seawitch.

DON'T HAVE NIGHTMARES after the film as Nick Ross used to say. ;o)

NITE NITE

chinadoll said...

Just incase any nutters are trying to make sense of what we have been talking about.............be warned.

We are talking in code and whilst you may not understand what we are talking about, we do.

A condition of visiting this site, is that you sign a disclaimer.

Thereafter, you will continue to be polite, as a disclaimer, does not give consent to be cruel.

Cruelty is not welcome on this site.

calcite51 said...

I read all the comments. What a rollercoaster day.

Was elated to hear that Shannon was found alive. What wonderful police work. PJ's, do you see how professional police officers work and the conclusion of the case - it didn't take 10 months or longer as in your case.

Concerned when they found the bag of bones - relieved when it turned out not to be Madeleine.

All in all, I'm exhausted so early nite for me - good nite all.

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