Wednesday, 19 March 2008

KATE AND GERRY MCCANN: SORRY

Wednesday March 19,2008

"The Daily Express today takes the unprecedented step of making a front-page apology to Kate and Gerry McCann."

We do so because we accept that a number of articles in the newspaper have suggested that the couple caused the death of their missing daughter Madeleine and then covered it up.

We acknowledge that there is no evidence whatsoever to support this theory and that Kate and Gerry are completely innocent of any involvement in their daughter's disappearance.

We trust that the suspicion that has clouded their lives for many months will soon be lifted.

As an expression of its regret, the Daily Express has now paid a very substantial sum into the Madeleine Fund and we promise to do all in our power to help efforts to find her.

Kate and Gerry, we are truly sorry to have added to your distress.

We assure you that we hope Madeleine will one day be found alive and well and will be restored to her loving family.




Daily Express

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/38490

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chinadoll said...

Ok Goodnight All.

calcite51 said...

Good nite all - Diane, I've left a message on the other article.

Sass said...

I'm back in the cyber world! Internet connection back - oh joy!

Am glad that the McCanns will get an apology. Hope it isn't one on page 34, bottom left, 2 lines long, font size 4!

They wanted to keep people aware of their daughter's disappearance which is fair enough. The media then had a field day printing absolute rubbish (the Express contradicted itself from one day to the next) knowing that they couldn't say anything much because of the secrecy laws.

People complain about the McCanns making money from their daughter's disappearance, why don't they complain about the millions the press made?

melbel said...

Morning
It is unprecedented for a newspaper to apologise, in such a public and prominent way and it is not before time.
I managed to get a post in to DE,before they disabled the forum,for legal reasons,though there are two threads, as ever.
Money can never ever repair the emotional damage that irresponsible and reckless journalism,in this trial by media, have done to the McCanns.
This has been the main reason,why this case became such a gross injustice, as far as I am concerned.
Roy Greenslade,in Today program,said that leaks from the Portugese Police to Portugese newspapers have been recycled over here and there has never been such smearing and downright lies fed in my lifetime, to deliberately discredit a couple, where the Portugese Police,have not even finished their questioning yet.
So much for the amateur armchair lawyers and media "experts ", who have been sprouting on various forums.
They thought ,that as the McCs were arguidos, that they could have a field day,without any need to fear that they would be sued.
It is my profound wish,that Portugese tabloids,are also sued and madames, who run hate and bitch blogs, because, that is what you are, hate filled,vindictive people, who should be out working and doing good in the world.
You are way out of line, in terms of what ordinary decent people think and I hope you have your day in court.
As for the Portugese Police and tabloids,they are beneath contempt and there needs to be an European wide enquiry into why these leaks were not just allowed,but authorised at a high level,while under their wretched Secrecy laws, the arguidos could not speak out.
It is my firm belief, that there exists not a shred of evidence against these people and the Portugese will not succeed, in holding the dam back.

helenm said...

Hi all,

Google so slow this morning. Just read the apology in the DX, I can't believe that they still have HYS for people to comment on the article. Let's hope a moderator is close to hand with his finger.

It was suggested by one poster that the Mccann's courted the publicity and therefore must have been aware of the risks that this coverage involved. I don't go along with that reasoning, by doing what they did the Mccann's were simply doing what they could in whatever way they could find to try and find their daughter Madeleine. That does not give anyone the right to, in particular the media, print unsubstantiated 'evidence' and in effect incite joe public to declare war on the Mccann's.

It was also suggested that since the Mccann's had been made arguidos then the police must have evidence against them. We know for a fact that this is not necessarily true. The fact that Mr Ribeiro stated that the Mccann's status as arguidos was made 'hastily' suggested that but for the change in law in Portugual this status would most probably not have been actioned, for then the PJ would have had to show them and the public any 'evidence' they had. Which at this moment in time appears to be a big fat zero.

Lets not forget also that there is another arguido, Robert Murat, certainly no haste in making him an arguido. What we shouldn't lose sight of is that an arguido can simply be someone that maybe can help police with their enquiries. We have this in Britain too, what we don't have thankfully is the archaic secrecy laws that enables the police not to have to justify their actions.

joanypony said...

Absolutely great that the two worst perpetrators of publishing rubbish have had to apologise and have paid half a million into the Madeleine fund. What a pity they couldn't sue the rats that wrote all the disgusting filth on the forums as well.

Tulip said...

Good morning girls! Seems there must have been some disappointed punters last night, with you all clustered round the TV and all! Though Rosie seems to have had a busy day -- VERY suspicious!

Though I read this blog, I don't post here unless there is something specific to say, and you all covered the feeling of satisfaction we felt when we heard the news about the Express group.

I think we should remind ourselves that negative talk about the 'British press'is correct ONLY where it refers to the tabloids, most if not all of which are totally unreliable and designed for people without any significant thoughts of their own and who like the 'thinking' done for them in the form of shrieking headlines. The journalists concerned are completely cynical. They know it's all about circulation, with their 'today we can reveal' and 'shock discovery' and the like.

Apart from those papers the UK has a great press, with a proud tradition, which for historical reasons is not the case with the press in some European countries. Papers such as the Times, Telegraph, Observer etc may have their own political agenda but they are upfront about it. Their coverage of the McCann saga has always been restrained and their commentary thoughtful. They don't insult the intelligence of their readership.

I doubt if the McCanns will bother to sue any Portuguese papers as they don't have that much impact on their lives at home if the press here stops using them as sources, though it would be great if they did.

Also, since it seems impossible to police even the nastiest porn sites on the internet, the hate bloggers are probably safe, with reduced credibility.

Since the Express apology was a first, suing the owners of libellous internet sites may be another 'first' -- who knows? I'd be a wee bit concerned if I were a blogger there.

But I think the McCann's lawyers will feel it's enough to have made their point. Despite what some bloggers believe, their site readership is tiny. They are the centre of their own little planetary system -- invisible to anyone without a powerful telescope.

Quite honestly, I think the Express were lucky to get away with £550 000 (as has been reported) and I hope the money will help to find Madeleine or at least establish what really happened to her.

Whatever the outcome for the McCanns, the facts (as opposed to speculation) in the public domain are so meagre that a libel suit was justified and inevitable.

I see there is a HYS on the Express -- saw you there Melbel-- but don't know for how long. It will no doubt descend into the usual slanging match and be pulled!

JANEGT said...

GOOD MORNING GUYS

EXPRESS MELTDOWN

The site froze, then I see they FOR LEGAL REASONS HAVE DISALLOWED ANY READER'S COMMENTS ON THE MCCANNS/DAMAGES STORY.

THERE WERE SEVERAL POSTS BUT I COULD NOT ACCESS HYS. NOW I KNOW WHY. wow. They are certainly worried to do this.

JANEGT said...

SASSY

Glad you re back....

Yes, the Express did contradict itself, and even on same issue of that day's paper!!!!

This award is just. I applaud it. Maybe more care will now be taken in writing accurate and truthful articles now by ALL journalists. I wonder if another publication/s will be next? It was not only the DE and DS guilty of this.

JANEGT said...

good morning melbel

I saw your HYS post. I tried to get in but couldn't. Not all that surprised really, as the HYS was inviting trouble allowing open comments there.....

calcite51 said...

joanpony - Welcome aboard.

I don't think the McCanns want to start suing individuals but this 'win' against the press, should serve as be a warning to some of the more outspoken individuals who are are quick to judge the McCanns.

I personally hope they sue the author of that book written by an ex PJ and some of the newspapers in Portugal.

calcite51 said...

Tulip - I agree with you but I would still like to see them go after the ex-PJ who's book came out yesterday "The Star of Madeleine".

Also, agree with you about the internet - but I do think one day, people will not have the luxury of writing whatever they feel like on the internet as they will be liable.

JANEGT said...

TODAY - ROY GREENSLADE

I missed it, but it is in video player mode on sky website now should anyone want to hear it.......

Tulip said...

Calcite, I too would LOVE to see the author of that book successfully sued. Maybe the Express affair will prevent its being published in Britain at least as the publishers here would be open to libel suits.

If it stays in Portuguese, well ...

I can't imagine anything better than seeing off scurrilous websites but not sure if they would be able to do the detective work necessary. One day maybe ...

Mum21 said...

Good Morning all.

Joanypony....give it time and I think the blogs will come under scrutiny as well.
The facility to blog is given by an owner...in this case Google.
Google will not want its reputation blemished.
So I think they will soon start trawling all blogs with the McCann heading....and heads will roll.

calcite51 said...

Good morning, Mum21. Hope you are doing well.

Mum21 said...

Rat said this today

"What disgusts me more is the paper printing that the Macs are innocent, when they cannot know that for a fact."

It is a pity rat does not practice what he/she preaches.
Also, the DE having had in depth meetings with the McCann's lawyers may just know something the general public do not.
Because I have no doubt in my mind that the McCann lawyers have been in constant contact with the Portuguese authorities dealing with this case.
It will be interesting to watch what now slowly unfolds.

Mum21 said...

Good Morning Calcite51.
I am fine, thank you.
It is cold here in the South of England today. Not at all like Easter weather.

calcite51 said...

We're having nice spring like weather in western Canada - eastern Canada is a different matter. The Canadian people in Eastern Canada have so much snow that their roofs are collapsing - 5people have died.

Keep warm, Mum21 and keep knitting.

calcite51 said...

Hey, Mum21 was 2345 on when you visit the other blog?

Mum21 said...

Calcite. No, no sign of 2345 yet.
But I am sure she will appear soon.

melbel said...

Hiya all
Just been reading back.
Yes,Tulip, you are right that the serious newspapers in the UK,have a proud tradition and little has been printed and I have seen nothing pointing the finger, at the Mccanns.
It is all tabloid stuff, to sell newspapers and those making money, on the backs of this tragedy, should be very afraid.

Mum,you have extensive knowledge of blogs and the web and I fervently hope that purveyors of lies and filth, will be pursued.
On Al's site, I think the more intelligent ones,realise that the game is up and suggest, that for the DE to pay out now and print that there is no evidence, rather than batting it out, to see point if charges are laid,could indicate a likely lifting of arguido status, for the McCs.
I was interested in an anon, who came onto Madamealsa's site,very recently, warning of libel charges and posting again.
It could be coincidence, or the real McCoy.
Another anon,claims to be a DE journalist, who is going to send Alsa an inside e mail re them being gagged,but cannot write decent English or spell.
There are a lot of phantasists around and people claiming to be what they are not.
Have to pop to shops and will catch up later.
Best regards

Mum21 said...

Calcite...2345 has now arrived.
Her comment below is exactly what I expected.

" 2345 said...
wooram,

I don't believe McCanns have sued DE or anyone else for libel ... lawyers heard and saw the damning forensics presented to the parents on the day they were interviewed.

The only people guilty of damaging their reputations are themselves .. it's provable in any Court."

JANEGT said...

good morning mum21

how are you this morning? Well I trust. Sunny but bitterly cod here today, snow on way...

I would be worried if I were A. Her site is responsible for some of the very extreme comments that could easily land her in serious trouble. Nowhere to hide now. Other sites too it must be said are equally wild in ther theories and speculation put out as 'fact'......

speaking of which you mentioned 3456.9999..... ;o((((((((

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi Mum,

But the pRAT wasn't disgusted when they printed stories alledging they were guilty without any known facts!

What a hypocrite!!!.

Have a nice day, catch you all later.

Mum21 said...

My suggestion to 2345 is...If it is proveable in court...then 2345 perhaps you should take the case to court. Because nobody else seems to want to. I wonder why?

melbel said...

Mum and Calcite
Just saw that re 2345 and had a good laugh.
Nothing, if not predictable.Must be the lateral thinking !

calcite51 said...

Thanks, Mum21 - now isn't that precious and special? That 2345 should be gagged before she gets herself into trouble.

Okay, everyone - DE or DM have not been sued - go back to sleep. It was a dream.

Mum21 said...

Morning Tinkerbel and Jane.
Hope you are both well...even if cold.

JANEGT said...

MUM

I don't believe how thick that post and poster is.

In face of this undeniable statement and over half a million pounds pay out, she STILL spouts spurious statements. Quite unbelievable!!!
men, white coats, van, restraints???????

As for prat....well I won't say..... you can guess!!!!!!!




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Mum21 said...

Ladies, I think Alsabella needs to think very carefully from now on as to which comments she allows to remain on her blog.
It is the owner of a blog that will take the blame...not the posters on it.
She has to abide by the rules set out for "Blogger". At the moment she is not doing this.

Sass said...

Hi again

The Express went completely moderating mad last I heard. Wasn
t Mandz pretty much the only person whose account wasn't blocked last time!?

JANEGT said...

good morning TINKERBELL

See you are still spitting mad and high kicking a**es about.

Good!!!!!

I have a list........

That lot cannot see the noses on their own faces. Arguido status now must be lifted....surely!!

Sass said...

Mum21

That's easily sorted - Arsabella has her own rules. If she agrees with you your comment stays - if she agrees with you and you're Portuguese, you get a gold star. If you're a foul-mouthed vicious Portuguese who agrees with her she nominates you for an award.

If you don't agree with her and you post something and add a polite message to it, your comment gets deleted and you are called a stirrer!

And the hypocrisy 2008 award goes to . . . Arsabella!

JANEGT said...

SASS

YES, MODERATING MAD THEY WERE, BUT TODAY EVEN MORE SO PULLIN hys FROM THE PAY OUT mCcANN HEADLINE. VERY SOON AFTER IT WENT ON..... THEY SURELY KNEW WHAT TYPE OF COMMENTS IT COULD ATTRACT TO ALLOW hys ON THIS ISSUE. !!!!!

OOoooooops sorry caps lock again, sorry not shouting.

Sass said...

Jane

It's OK - know your keyboard probs!!!

JANEGT said...

yes Mum21

Putting yourself 'above the rules' does not make you immune from any rulings on your behaviour, as A just could find out soon.

4567.999 will be OK by pleading insanity - evidently!!!! No contest......

Mum21 said...

Yeah Sass..you are right there. te he he.

I have just re-read the terms of service for using Blogger....and Alsa is not abiding by them at all.

But then I suppose she is above the rules because in her eyes she is the Queen of Portugal.

JANEGT said...

APOLOGY BY EXPRESS GROUP IN HIGH COURT JUST BEEN GIVEN

itn neews now.

Hope they now sue that ex pj plonker and his star of Madeleine book. Scandalous.

calcite51 said...

janegt - I think you may be right about 4567.9999 should be okay with an insanity plea.

JANEGT said...

he he Mum you took words out my mouth literally....

great minds........ ;o))

helenm said...

Hi all,

Just visited Alsabella's site, just to have a look, I have learned my lesson and will not post on there anymore. I see that Gina is buying into the higher influence conspiracy. Unbelievable.

I agree Mum21 that Alsabella needs to moderate her posts, although ROTB states that if shut down they will just set up somewhere else. Not very bright is he/her.

In my earlier post I was astounded that the DX had actually allowed a HYS on their apology article, will they ever learn?

JANEGT said...

No Helen, and good morning

No they will never learn. Just off the Daily Star site, they too have pulled their have your shout comments for 'legal reasons'. How silly to have it there in first place.

Prat on the contrary puts herself as 'highly intelligent'. She often says so. May we beg to differ on that........proveably.

Mum21 said...

Hi Helen. I also only look on Alsa's blog. I never post on there.
I would not lower myself to do so.
I notice there is an Anon posting....and of course we are getting the blame.
Not that it worries me...I am above being concerned what they think of us.
One thing I am sure of though...and that is if blogs are removed because of libellous content....then this one will remain intact.
Keep it up girls.

helenm said...

Mum21,
I saw anon at work, what I don't understand, and surely not all posters of Alsabella's site are thick, why assume as some posters do that the anon is a poster from this site. Doesn't take too many brain cells to know that they are being manipulated. The anon poster could so easily be one of their own stirring things up. But hey, what do we care?

JANEGT said...

Helen

Yes, it could very easily be one of their own, an insider who enjoys stirring. I know who my vote would go too and a lot here would be agreeing on that one.

It's their favourite 'hobby'/////???

Mum21 said...

Helen. They do not have the intelligence to work that out for themselves. They are to intent on following Team Leader 2 (Clawdia).
Something interesting I have noticed today....Claudia has removed the link to Viv's site from her profile. She now has no blogs listed.
Is the cat running scared?

JANEGT said...

I think so Mum21

ha ha ha 'scaredy cat'

Sass's right.....

calcite51 said...

Is Viv even acknowledging the apology on her blog?

JANEGT said...

DIDN'T KNOW TAL AND QAL

had folded. Remember the McCanns were suing them? Also McCanns say they 'reserve right' to sue further publications. So bring it on......good, good, good.

No before time.

Mandz said...

Hi All,
Glad the McCann’s got some money back which has gone into her fund however I think they should have got more considering what garbage & lies they have stated about this innocent couple for so long. Money will not help them psychologically but it’s a warning and quite right.
As for the creeps book well I hope the McCann’s don’t sue because it will give that creep and his book attention which is what he wants and people with no morals will buy it making him rich.

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Took this from a USA forum!

I would love to see you go to Portugal and do a step by step story similar to those I saw you do on Natalie Halloway and Jessie Davis. We need to keep poking holes in the PJ’s case against the McCann’s. Apparently it will take media outside of Portugal to shine light and truth on what really happened to Madeleine. The PJ’s suggestions do not add up. The whole world is not that stupid to just accept an allegation without concrete proof!
Comment by Kathy in Buffalo


Just to put record straight on this business of putting children to bed at a reasonable time and going out to dinner. This has always been done by British families on holiday both at home and abroad. I have been taking children and grand children on holiday for nearly 50 years and it is simply the British (and the Dutch and Belgian -if you listen to the Portuguese critics on BBC TV) habit. Our Southern European friends take their chilkdren out to dinner and so keep them up late, tire them out and deny their adult familes quality time together. We as a nation have always wanted children to have normal sleep patterns as at home. It’s a cultural thing not a criminal act - if it were so then I and a whole generation of millions of respectable British parents would be and feel guilty - not so. This is not a fair way to crticise the McCanns for note that the other families with them also had left their children back in the apartment which, as is standard practice they visited regularly taking it in turns to do the rounds of the rooms. Just as I would expect a party of holidaying Brits to behave. Delighted common sense finally focussing on the truth of this sad case which I fear has begun seriously to damage Anglo Portuguese relations. I have had a number of emails urging that I don’t go on holiday to Portugal and boycot Portuguese goods. A concerted movement of revulsion at the treatment of our innocent fellow citizens appears to be growing - and watch out once the Brits get riled up and raring. Brian M

Comment by Brian Morris

JANEGT said...

DAILY MAIL

Has comments on McCanns libel reward. Lots of comments there. I shall not even try to post there, but thought some of you might be interested.

JANEGT said...

MORNING MANDZ

How are you thismorning??

I agree, I thought the McCanns request for £4 million would have been perhaps halved, giving them an award of £2 million, but no.

Portuguese Newspapers should take note of this precedent. I would be afraid.........

Mandz said...

Hi Jane!
I’m fine thanks and you…?
Yes they should have got much more considering the damage they have done and the idiots who believed it all….

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi Everyone,

I think this 2345 lives in some kind of fantasy world devoid of reality.

There is no damning evidence, Jane Hill has confirmed she knows no more than any other reporter.

Clarence Mitchel has said that the UK Authorities do not believe there are any charges to be brought against the McCs.

The papers have admitted what we on this blog knew all along, their reporting was flawed and was based on unsubstantiated facts.

If these posters have a problem with this, then its their own fault for being so gullible and they should take it out on the papers, THEY allowed, to lead them up the garden path.

Back to work now, byeeee.

helenm said...

Tinks,
Work!! Would that be your day job? No wonder you were cream crackered the other night. Don't think you should have that vibrating wand back though!lol

Mandz said...

Absolutely Tinks!

The people who could not keep an open mind believed every stupid word and added on their own little bits…2345 in particular!! It sent people who cannot think for themselves into some kind of fantasy world where they played armchair detectives!!!!

Viv & Alsa site watch out your next for your SLANDER….

Mandz said...

Hi Helen!

Love your avatar! Can't stop laughing and I hope it's facing towards hellsblogs....

Mandz said...

Helen,

I'm feeling uncomfortable...don't know whether I should look up!!!!

Dobywallah said...

Good morning friends, just had a peek at the Alsabella blog and all hell seems to hav broke loose. One would expect the idiots to shrivel up and hide away but no chance, they are even more abusive, hostile and agressive! I think they are taling the stance that "attack is the best form of defence" but as any general will tell them "That doesn't always work!"

helenm said...

Your'e safe Mandz, do you not know the saying don't c.... on your own doorstep!!!lol

Mum21 said...

This HAS to BE the comment of the day.....I am almost falling off my chair with laughter.

2345 said...
arepa,

People should voice their digust ... I e-mailed DE at
7.30 a.m. and sent them forensic details released by British Police six months ago.

19 March 2008 12:36

Dobywallah said...

Hi there Mum21, isn't that just typical of 2345, 'nutty as a fruit cake!' He'll soon be getting back to his usual DNA & Body Fluids routine I expect, its all he's able to talk about!

Mandz said...

But their lawyers in Portugal and Britain have warned they will take legal action against any organisation which repeats speculation that they were implicated in her disappearance.

"It certainly is a warning sign to newspapers in the future - if they're going to speculate, they've got to be very careful about what they speculate about."

Quite Right....

melbel said...

A Quick hello
My Guardian has a whole page comment on this and Caroline Kean, head of media litigation at media lawyers Wiggin, says that "If you are repeating a rumour, you are liable for that rumour ".
Legal experts say, that it is no defence,in the eyes of the law to use the device of reproducing their allegations in quotations.
They also do a timescale, which I cannot type one fingered,as too long.

The February part of it says
February 3,Police Chief, Alipio,says detectives too hasty in making McCanns suspects.
February 10th,
Portugese Police announce they have no evidence against the couple
February 13th Portugese Justice Minister says enquiry is nearly over


March 7
Lawyers acting for McCanns warn they are considering action against Daily Express
March 8 Express scales back coverage.
Now I do believe my Guardian.

Mandz said...

Teeeheee Helen!

Hi All!

Can't stop laughing at 2345 sending "her" so called ffffooorrrreeeeennnnssssiiiccccc info..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Best laught I've had in ages...Thanks 2345 diddlee dum dum.

helenm said...

Hi Doby, Mum21

You are right they are getting themselves into a right lather!

Saw the post from 2345 and just thought 'oh no, not that old pony again!'

Did see that Alsabella is actually instructing posters to include IMO or allegedly in their posts. Wonder what that is about?!!!!!!
Running scared perhaps?

helenm said...

Claudia seems to think that the Portuguese press are safe. Found this in the Daily Mail this morning:


'But their lawyers in Portugal and Britain have warned they will take legal action against any organisation which repeats speculation that they were implicated in her disappearance.'

Mum21 said...

Helen, I saw that too. She will never admit she is running scared...but I do believe she is.
I know I would be if I was in her shoes.
I have seen it happen many times with websites...one minute they are there...the next they are gone with the owners fighting a legal battle.
Not nice at all.

JANEGT said...

MUM21 AND DOBY HELLO TO YOU

i AM crying laughing. 2345 has emailed the DE? Can I hear sirens in distance coming at last...??? tol you.... Doiby 2345 profile...female, age 60. If you believe profiles, that is......

Yes, Mum, A is trying a damage limitation exercise...too late....ha ha ha ha imho, allegedly.

Tulip said...

Hello again to everyone.I've noticed the flurry over at A's. What they and some of the DM posters fail to realise is that what the Express group have been publishing is still libel whatever happens later in the McCann case. They are legally innocent until proved guilty, and any accusations made against them in the press could, among other things, prejudice a fair trial. In the very unlikely event that they are proved to have been involved in some way, they cannot possibly have done everything they have been rumoured to do in the Express -- they 'sold' Madeleine, they 'threw her body in the sea', etc etc. So the libel will remain.

I hope this will result in some caution in the ranks of the 'antis' though I doubt it. Some of you have noticed that certain posters who try to come across as reasonable on both blogs
are wolves in sheep's clothing.

As for 2435 she has a major problem yet there are people on that site who believe all she says and suggest she must be a professional forensic scientist! There's one born every minute.

Anyway if I hear that the Portuguese press are also sued so much the better.

JANEGT said...

ha ha ha helen

I read that as if you were calling 4567.999 'an old pony'.......well she is an ass right enough.......

eats, shoots, and leaves !!

Mandz said...

Well said Tulip!

Mandz said...

Can we complain to google about there slander remarks on Alsa site...?? Or email CM..?

melbel said...

Alopecia now threatening to throw herself off cardiff bridge, in protest or streak at a major match and Alsabella is worriedly asking ratty which forum is deleting posts.

Tulip said...

Mandz, that's not a bad idea (reporting the other site for libel) Can't hurt.

Mandz said...

Tulip!

Let's get cracking.....

melbel said...

MANDZ AND TULIP
Please could you leave details, as to how to do this and their e mail address. Ta
Also,did felicity's site go,as I cannot find it ?

helenm said...

melbel it's still there, just had a look. Is strange though, there apears to be a 3 hour gap with no posts at all. Try this

http://justiceformaddie.blogspot.com/2008/03/shannon-was-kidnapped-and-falsely.html

melbel said...

Thanks Helen.
Will try that.x

Tulip said...

Mandz haven't a clue how. And have too much on my plate unfortunately.
But someone will, you can be sure.

Mandz said...

Melbel..!

I've sent off an email however I'm not sure if it is the correct one?

Will wait for a reply and let you know if this is the right one to send off to!

Tulip said...

Well done Mandz. If it's the wrong address I'm sure it will be forwarded, provided you have the correct organisation. Who did you send it to?

Mandz said...

Tulip!

Sent it to a google complaints dept however hope they reply if this is wrong!

Will let you know!

Tulip said...

Mandz, yes please report back. I feel very strongly about this. Wish I had more time but always on the hop.

By the way are the highways in the East of England taken by the girls or is there a patch I can book? I have a warm coat and boots.

helenm said...

Tulip saw your earlier post including:

Some of you have noticed that certain posters who try to come across as reasonable on both blogs
are wolves in sheep's clothing.

To name but two!!

I see that Gina is distancing herself from Alsabella's blog, repeating that she is fed up with it all and DOUBTS that she will have anything more to say on the matter!!lol Not a betting person but how long do you think that will last? Frank Sinatra springs to mind.

Well done Mandz will await reply.

helenm said...

Tulip, nay lass you won't earn much in that get up!!. Fishnet tights and cleavage are essential, no compromises!!lol

Tulip said...

Yes, Helen, Gina pretends to be above all the 'nonsense' and bored by it all, but she can't help going back again and again, each time saying a final farewell.

I could open my coat and flash? No?
Well then I'll put in for leave with Madam Rosie until the warmer weather, thanks.

helenm said...

From findmadeleine blog

Kate and Gerry Statement Express Newspapers
Date Released: 19/03/2008 11:00:00

We are pleased that Express Newspapers have today admitted the utter falsity of the numerous grotesque and grossly defamatory allegations that their titles published about us on a sustained basis over many months.

The exceptional publication of these apologies, together with today’s statement of full apology in open Court before Mr Justice Eady, was the only just and proper response by Express Newspapers following our complaint. We also wish to place on record our thanks to Adam Tudor, from Carter Ruck. Today’s result simply could not have been achieved without him

Express Newspapers, rightly acknowledge that we are innocent of all allegations that we may have been involved in Madeleine’s abduction and WE would like to reiterate that there is absolutely no evidence that Madeleine is dead or has been seriously harmed.

We embarked on this course of action reluctantly, indeed with a heavy heart, as we did not wish the pursuit of it to become a distraction from our sole aim – finding Madeleine. Indeed, as long ago as last autumn our lawyers approached Express Newspapers and urged them to show greater restraint in their reporting – requests which went utterly unheeded.

The distress all this has caused members of our wider family, at a time of great emotional turmoil for them, was also a major factor in our action. Their pain over the loss of Madeleine has been compounded by having to witness the irresponsible and libellous reporting that we have successfully challenged today.

As a part of our settlement, Express Newspapers have also agreed to donate £550,000 to the Fund that was established to help find Madeleine. We feel it is entirely appropriate that the search for Madeleine will now benefit directly out of the wrongs committed against us as her parents.

We hope that the Portuguese authorities lift our arguido status in the very near future so that everyone can focus on finding our beautiful little girl, Madeleine.”

helenm said...

Looking at that statement the DX would appear to be rather foolhardy in continuing with their libellous articles, having been approached by the Mccann's lawyers last Autumn.

Tulip said...

Quite right Helen, but they probably did the sums and worked out that the higher circulation figures resulting from their headlines and stories would finance any damages.

£550 000? Bet they've raked in much more extra money than that over the past months.

IMHO naturally!!

Rosiepops said...

Hi Everyone,

I am not posting from home at the moment, very busy this morning, that is why I haven't been on, great news isn't it?
Told you all something was coming around this date.

Next thing I think is that we may see the lifting of the arguido status very soon.

From what I can gather there maybe more actions to come against the Portuguese papers, authors of those scurrilous books about Madeleine and I think then the blogs may start seeing some action.

Can't help looking at the comparisons between this investigation and the Shannon investigation.

The brilliant West Yorkshire police gathered enough info on Donovan and charged him within a few days of his arrest, he could face further charges, they have not wasted almost 11 months waiting for more evidence to suddenly appear.

This is exactly what the PJ could have done 'IF' they had evidence on Kate and Gerry, charge them pending further charges. All this talk about the PJ waiting to get even more evidence against this couple is a complete nonsense.

They haven't charged them because they have no evidence, they have no evidence because there isn't any evidence and there isn't any evidence because the McCann's are innocent.

This is why they have not been charged and all the res of this is absolutely farcical nonsense.

Where are the rogatory letters? How long have the PJ been coming here with these bloody letters now? 6 months? How much longer?
I am seriously doubting if these letters even exist!

I think this is another crazy Keystone Kops attempt to get Kate and Gerry to confess to something they did not do.

Portuguese secrecy laws have made Portugal look totally ridiculous and its 'supposedly' elite police force a laughing stock.

joanypony said...

Hi everyone,

Just one day to go and I'm on holiday for over 2 weeks, yahoo!!

Rosiepops you must read my mind as I would concur with everything you have said.

It's great that the papers have been fined, but the thing is it does not compensate for the vitriol ladled out to the McCanns from the forums over the months, it was absolutely disgusting and it must have had an effect on Gerry and Kate.

I hope that the McCanns sue the Portugese, police, media etc also.

Rosiepops said...

Hi Joany

I don't think we will have to wait too long for this, judging by what the McCann's legal team were saying this morning, it looks like they are going to go for the Portuguese press, the authors of those books and the owners of blogs and forums.

I hope they also sue the backsides off of the PJ too, I think they have been an absolute disgrace.

The only good thing to come of this is that the fund has been swelled this will enable them to keep searching for Madeleine.

I also think that we will see a completely different way in which newspapers report on this story in future.
I honestly think the editors of these newspapers seem to have lost their marbles these past few months!

It was interesting to listen this morning the explanation of how these stories got into our papers, it is virtually what I have been saying both yesterday and these past few months.

I feel all of this has just distracted from the search for Madeleine and as the PJ were the ones that actually started this ball rolling with their leaks to the Portuguese press to 'ex PJ detectives turned journalists' then I think they need to go to court too, i would like to know when and why they gave up looking for Madeleine and who's say so?

Mandz said...

Hi Rosie hope you are having a nice time!
Great News!! Well done to McCann Team!
As for the letters I doubt very much this will happen honestly!
I hope the McCann’s sue the Portugal side of things and take the money and put it towards detectives who want to help and have the necessary skills etc.

Maddie deserved better.....

melbel said...

Hi Rosie and Joany
I really do hope that they sue the Portugese tabloids and Police and writers of books, on the subject, cashing in and the blogs of hate.
We will see how brave these people are,when they are flushed out.

Rosiepops said...

Hi Mandz

Well what can I say? I bet this is a culmination of a lot of hard work, but I suspect the work is continuing and some people who think they are invisible because they spout forth their envy and spite from other countries and behind their monitors are just about to discover they are not so safe after all!

I don't think there are any letters either. What happened to this detective that was supposed to have gone to Portugal to discuss all of this? Did he ever issue an 'official' statement, or was it yet more conjecture from journalists?
I simply do not believe these letters ever existed and if this detective did go out to Portugal, then I do not honk it was for the reasons that appeared in the newspapers, lets be realistic here, the papers have been on about the PJ coming for moths now, saying the are definitely here etc, yet where are they?

Not here are they? The last time the were definitely coming was Christmas and the lame excuse some antis gave then for them not coming was because they were being kind and letting the McCann's off to spend Christmas with their family and now it is Easter are they going to offer the same excuse?

They are still not here, yet the no-marks on the blogs of hate are still talking excitingly about when the PJ arrive!

They just do not get it yet do they?

Rosiepops said...

Hi Melbel

They are all so brave while they are behind their monitors, let's see how brave they are when they are being filmed going in and out of court!

It will also be interesting to see the professions!

melbel said...

It was deadly quiet, over there,earlier, with 2345,droning on and alepra, losing it.
Alsa had been burning the midnight oil,getting legal opinion,from Felicity !
When my Guardian newspaper writes a timeline,saying that on Feb 10th, Portugese Police announce that they have no evidence against this couple,I sit up and listen.
It is all a charade, trying to save face.
There may need to be an interview, for PJ to sign it off,but it is disgusting that 11 months after the event, they still have not done this.

Gina said...

Melbel/Tulip I said I would not post on here again yesterday but I am so make what you like about that. It seems that you cannot bring a comment over from Alsabella's site without distorting the truth. I never said I would not post on there again (and am doing as you put it a Frank Sinatra), I said all about the case had been said and I would probably go back to giving cleaning tips as I was getting bored with the repeats. However as usual the anons arrive (from where I do not know) and start slamming into me and passing moral judgement on my views, so I retaliate. What hyocrites, they accuse us of passing judgement on the McCanns (people we do not know) then pass moral judgement themselves on people they do not know. I fear nothing about anything I have said about the McCanns and do not take back a word of it, but I am not going to sit back and allow people who haven't even got the guts to post under their own name pass judgement on my morality, compassion, and concern for Madeleine. When they surpass my standards and level then they can teach me something, until that time they can do what I told them to do and f... off. and I only speak like that to cretins because it is the only language they seem to understand.

You also seem to me passing judgement on me without knowing me at all. Ok that is fine, you are entitled to your opinion but don't knock others if they have got it wrong about the McCanns based on no knowledge of their lifestyle and background.

Why do you bother to read Alsa's site if you have nothing to say on it yourselves.

Mandz said...

Rosie,

You missed a cracker! 2345 apparently sent off the forensic evidence to the DX!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pitty she didn't send it to the McCann lawyers who are still waiting...!!!!!!!!!

Rosiepops said...

Melbel

If Alsabliar is getting legal opinion from Felicity then she must be desperate, whatever it is she is getting legal opinion for she would be best advised at getting it from someone competent to give it and that person is not Felicity.

I haven't looked in there for a while, may take a look in a moment or two.

I just find the nonsense over there so repetitive and predictable, it is obvious most of them are not in touch with reality!

Rosiepops said...

mandz

Is it still on there? I would make an exception and pop over to read that lol

Pity she didn't send it to the McCann's legal team, the have only been trying get their hands on for about 6 months now, did she say who she got it from?
Don't tell me it was Jane Hill? lol

melbel said...

Hi Gina
I honestly do not think that the anons are from here.
They would all post under their own manes and have no fear.
I am just a reader only of other blogs and just post here, as it takes me all my time to do that.
I have always found you upfront and have often disagreed,but feel I could meet you and not fall out, if you know what I mean.
Have a lovely Easter and nice time with your guests.
I am doing family stuff, mainly. Take care .

Mandz said...

Gina,

In your post you said...
F***Off....? Charming and very adult of you. Did the person who was debating with you swear..?

I'm just curious...?

Rosiepops said...

mandz

have you got the time of the post to save me wading through all that treacle over there?

joanypony said...

Rosiepops,

I know one blogger on the DS site was a teacher and I did tell him he was a disgrace to the profession, another one stayed in PDL and was in real estate. They were awful on that site, that is why I left it, you were not allowed to have an opinion unless it was the same as their's.

Mandz said...

Rosie here it is from Mum21..!!

This HAS to BE the comment of the day.....I am almost falling off my chair with laughter.

2345 said...
arepa,

People should voice their digust ... I e-mailed DE at
7.30 a.m. and sent them forensic details released by British Police six months ago.

19 March 2008 12:36

Rosiepops said...

OMG is 2345 for real? Is she?

Just been reading and see they have been emailing the DX too! I think they have lost the plot, if this has affected them so badly what are they going to do when the McCann's arguido status is lifted?

Who has Gina been swearing at?

Mandz said...

Rosie,

I can't stop laughing Rosie at 2345....nuts...

As for Gina I don't know...?

joanypony said...

Can someone please point me to the site that you are looking on with regard to 2345 etc?
Thanks.

Rosiepops said...

Hey mandz,

I think I am going to email the DX and ask them if I could have a copy of the forensic details released by the Leicestershire police six months ago and also I'll ask them if they could possible email a copy to the McCann's and their legal team because I believe they may like to see them too!

You can't make this stuff up can you?
I can't stop laughing, that board is a complete joke from start to finish, I almost feel embarrassed for them writing such nonsense and not only that, believing it too!

Tulip said...

Rosie, Gina told an Anon poster on the A site to F off.

This poster doesn't sound like anyone from this blog.

As for visiting the other site -- of course we do, as do they us. But I would never post there because it's pointless and why set yourelf up for virulent attacks?

Gina said...

Melbel I dont know where the annons come from as I said and dont really care. Mandz no they were not rude to me just trying to be superior, but this person has be goading all day, so kept it brief and to the point.

Feel free to paste any of my post on here, but in only in context to what I have responded to. I have just posted something that none of you will like on alsa as was having a moody, but Melbel's response was fairer than I expected

Mandz said...

Rosie,

When you get your hands on it can you please pass it to the McCann lawyers because they are still waiting...!!!!!!!

hahahahaha.....

Rosiepops said...

Joany

It it Alsabella's here is the addy if you haven't got it.

http://theworldaccordingtoalsabella.blogspot.com/

chinadoll said...

Hi Everyone,

Hope you are all well. I am still buzzing from yesterdays news.

Rosiepops said...

Tulip

I look in occasionally only I haven't for the last few days, never denied it, why should we, they are always here looking in and posting under Anonymous signing them-self as Marla and then slipping up and forgetting to click on Anonymous signing them-self as Marla yet Alsabella comes up with a hyperlink leading directly to Alsabella's then open profile complete with a link to her site The world According to Alsabella, the funniest thing was watching her aided by notdoc trying to get Alsabella off of the hook.

If I post over there I will post under my own ID and I am not afraid to, although I do not do it that often, it gets deleted anyway as Alsabliar is scared of the truth.

helenm said...

Hi and bye all,

Just caught up on pastposts. Methinks we are being played with. I for one will not join.

JANEGT said...

hi again guys
china, rosiepops, mandz, tulip et al ...

just back from dentist with daughter......she's off out now so here I am.

Yes, china I am still buzzing too and buzzed till 3.30 am this mornin, up at 7 15 so I am bleary eyed.....

I did post this morning around 9 am as I had promised.......can't keep me away.

Trust rosiepops you are well, and everyone else too???

Mandz said...

Gina,

My point is Gina the language you used in that post is disgusting and I’m surprised at you.

Rosiepops said...

Hi Helen

Where are you, I hope you ar enot being played with, Told you about that the other day!

Just ignore it, I do.

Mandz said...

I agree Tulip

I can put my hand on my heart and tell you 100% I have never ever posted on that site because it does not interest me. I have looked in twice now.

Rosiepops said...

Hi Jane and China

not too bad thanks, been very busy though!

yes I think this news is great and seeing the effect it has had on them over there, can you imagine what will happen when the arguido status is lifted?

What they systematically fail to remember that at the heart of this mess is a little girl who is still missing!

helenm said...

Would love to stay but sssh don't tell Jane, I need to mke a chilli before hubby gets in. (not from a packet may I add!!!LOL)

Have Portuguese lesson mane so need to do 11 weeks of homework in one night!! Be able to relax mane after 12noon, over for another week.

Rosiepops said...

Helen

Good luck with that, reminds me of when I sat my finals.

You intrigue me with your use of mane.

chinadoll said...

Hi there Janegt,

You must be shattered, with such little sleep last night. You might have to snuggle down on the sofa for a little while, for a quick boost.

Did you see Andrew Neil on Sky News? He was really vocal about the disgraceful media reporting and very sympathetic and understanding to the McCanns. He said that he had never believed for a single moment, that they had any involvement in their daughters disappearance.

Let's hope we get more responsible reporting, from now on.

JANEGT said...

HELEN


too late, I know now you are making Chilli tonight. Funnily I have the chillies, and am going to make one this Easter weekend....it's everyone on here talking about Chilli...makes me crave one...... I will just do a plain roast and we can nibble at that too when we want as no doubt it will be busy and lots to do....

helenm said...

Rosiepops, always used mane in my chosen profession.!!

chinadoll said...

Another new avatar Rosipops,

I think our Tinks has got a bit of competion there.

Haven't had a chance to look in any any other blogs yet, but, would imagine it has not gone down well.

JANEGT said...

CHINADOLL

No didn't see Anrew Neil. Good for him. I did try to post on DE have your say but they pulled it just shortly after putting it up. Then the Daily Star followed too with their 'shout' for LEGAL REASONS they put it.

Inviting any say on such a hot topic was ill advised anyway in my book...but Melbel got in therre and posted before it was pulled. No trace now of any of it.

There will be more writs to come I am sure, then the Arguido status has to be lifted.

I couldn't settle last night at all, that's why I just came back on and chatted to Calcite and Diane which I really enjoyed. I don't often get a chance to chat to the 'night shift'......

Rosiepops ANOTHER avatar...can;t you keep still for one minute?

Rosiepops said...

I have just been reading some of 2345's posts on Alsabliar's, they are screaming libel!

I think Alsabliar wants to be prosecuted, I cannot believe she is allowing them to stay up, doesn't she realise they are defamatory and libellous? Or is she just not very bright?

I wont even put them on here because they are clearly libellous.

Rosiepops said...

China

sssshhhh don't tell Tinks I borrowed her clothes, I was going to change before she came in from work!

I didn't catch Andre O'Neil, but it seems that most people with a brain realise that the McCann's are innocent, it is just those on the three sites and the PJ who have a problem with it.

JANEGT said...

Yes, clearly libellous does not surprise me. I haven't been on to A;s site, but Mum21 cam on this mrning, understatedly hilariously rreacting to 4567.999's post. Unbelievable to have the audacity to email the DE who have today paid out over half a million, to 'advise' them the McCanns did what she has it in her mind they did. OK Rosie,,,,,not libelloous is it.....to say it that way?

I also posted white, jacket, handcuffs, sirens coming........

She will not be prosecuted though as er plea of insanity is proven already loudly.......frequently or should that be
fffffffffffffffrrrrrreeeeeeequently

I am actually not joking here. Certifiable.

chinadoll said...

Has anyone heard any feedback from the Portuguese media or the pj, about the latest news?

I wonder if part of the agreement/consent order between the McCanns and the DX, included revealing the Portuguese 'sources' that many of their articles continually quoted the libellous material from? Let's hope they are next in the line of fire.

melbel said...

Hi all
Not stopping as cooking salmon,but 2345 says it is a pr hoax and the case never appeared,on the list at Court, today,as she has inside information re the lists.
Oh, dear x

chinadoll said...

Melbel,

You've got to be joking, right?

2345 actually thinks that the latest news is a hoax. Sounds like he/she has been on the vile site too long and has totally lost the plot.

Some people really seem to be on another planet

Mandz said...

Well Done CM on Sky interview...Well Said..

Tulip said...

Jane it's not just the forensic specialist who has problems. One Arepa is going quite crazy, accusing the McCanns of the M word and screaming for the lawyers to come and get her. She also gives her home address.

There is also puzzlement about the matter being heard in a court. It wasn't a court case, of course. Part of the Express group's deal with the McCann's lawyers was that they would appear in a public court and make the apology there too.

Ho hum.

I think things have got out of hand. I'm boggled actually.

Rosiepops said...

China

Is Tinks home from work yet, did I change in time?

About the Portuguese press from what I can gather it looks like this is only the start, if people do not tone their comments down then they will go to court, 'no matter' which country they are in.

This is why I do not understand why Alsablair is allowing those libellous comments to remain on her blog, I feel she is being really silly and stupidly arrogant and it is going to cost her if she doesn't stop it.

Still that is for her to sort out.

chinadoll said...

Just had a quick look around Rosie and I think your safe - Tinks is not around yet.
That is some serious fairy you have there Rosiepops - even Tinks wears more clothes than that lol.

I really really hope that if the DX were fed any of their cr.p stories by pj sources, that the same are now exposed....named and shamed and dealt with like other current pj arguidos, for attempting to pervert the course of justice.

Rosiepops said...

OMG I have just been reading Alsabliar's site, I cannot believe the mess that board is in, the lunatics have taken over the asylum!

She is going to get into huge trouble, I was going to make a post urging someone to email her and let her know what is happening but I would only get abused, insulted and deleted so decided to leave it alone.

But she is surely in huge trouble, it has over taken the Vile one's site for nasty disgusting libellous content and that is saying something!

Tulip said...

Are you laydees seriously thinking of going on the road tonight and the coming weekend in those skimpy outfits? Did you know that snow, sleet and black ice are forecast?

Is the money really worth it?

helenm said...

Guessed yet Rosie?

JANEGT said...

ROSIEPOPS

loonies taken over the asylum? How do you know that, it's always been like that. If worse, then it's clearly spun into orbit.....

Remember Tal and Qual the Portuguese paper McCanns were trying to sue way back? IT HAS FOLDED. In anticipation of a writ? Or coz of something else perhaps? If so,k what????

I feel the De, DS, Se and SS will no simply pay up and shut up. They have paid up and will 'spill the beans', Portuguese variety. They will not lie down, legs up in air, and take the bullets. No.

My goodness, yet ANOTHER avatar. Crawling on ground....lost your teeth???

Rosiepops said...

Tulip

Oh OK I have put my coat on!

JANEGT said...

little blue riding hood aka rosie

all the better to eat you with.

glad you found your teeth.

by the way you may have found it but Mum21's pos was 12.46 today re 5678.999's posts re ....you know what.

Rosiepops said...

Jane

I also heard on the statement today that the Sunday Express is also going to print an apology, so that will start them all off again on Sunday!

They are going berserk over there Arepa is clearly unhinged and 2345 is a fine partner for her!

Rosiepops said...

Jane,

You speak for yourself regarding the teeth, I was looking for my contact lens!

JANEGT said...

rosiepops

the sublime to the ridiculous.....

yes, on Sunday the Express and the Star will both publish apologies again. that'll rewind them up nicely. This timing was no accident. Clara, for once, has done his job.

Can't see why they are in such a tizz.....no less than they deserve..........

Still think there's more they know to come.......

;o)

JANEGT said...

singing again Rosiepops ...??

'and uncle tom cobbley and all
and uncle tom cobbley and all.'

Yeah, I believe that alright,!!! (AS IF)

NURSE ARE YOU THERE N U R S E?????

Rosiepops said...

Well after having read the rantings of the lunatics on Casa Crud's today I have had to update my list on those involved in the McCann conspiracy.

The High Court Judge
The Daily Express
The Sunday Express
The Daily Star
Andrew O'Neil BBC Presenter
Lord Stevens former Metropolitan Police Commissioner
John Stalker former Deputy Chief Constable of Greater Manchester Police
Mark Williams-Thomas former Surrey detective and now a leading child protection expert
The Fisherman
The Maid
The Two Nannies
The Boss Of MW Ocean View
The Tapas 7
Around 15 Eye witnesses
The Pope
Father Haynes Hubbard and his wife
The Catholic Priest
The staff at the Creche'
The Leicestershire Police
Rt Hon Gordon Brown British Prime Mnister
Rt Hon Jack Straw - Ministry of JusticeLord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice.
Rt Hon David Milliband British Foreign Secretary
Rt Hon Jaqui Smith British Home secretary
The Postal system
Jon Corner
Bridget O'Donnel
Jes Wilkins
Clarence Mitchell
Mr Mrs Healy
Mrs McCann (Gerry’s mum)
The Priest that Married The McCann’s
The Rothley Parish Priest
Team McCann

Doppelganger said...

Rosiepops,

Do you have the name of the High Court Judge who ruled on this case?

Doppelganger said...

Rosiepops,

Do you have the name of the High Court Judge who ruled on this case?

SeaWitch said...

Good evening ladies,

I agree with almost all of what you've said today, except for one thing; I dont think it would be good publicity for the McCanns to sue any bloggers.

Can you imagine the furore when a bunch of voiciferous old ladies in varying states of ill-health are wheeled into court, together with a couple of Portuguese flag wavers and some certifiable cranks?

A rogues gallery indeed.....!

LOL!

Rosiepops said...

No but if you are implying that this is a conspiracy, then I suspect you may have been taking the same substance as 2345. For goodness sakes don't be such a bloody idiot all your life man.

The behaviour of that board today has been nothing short of completely barking mad.

Doppelganger said...

SeaWitch,

Not sure anybody is 'there' at the moment - could be tea break time.

;-)

Doppelganger said...

Rosiepops,

Just trying to establish if this case was actually heard in court or if the DE have actually admitted to making either libellous or defamatory statements.

SeaWitch said...

Doppelganger,

Oh, well, I'll go and look for another avatar then. This naughty minx needs covering up!

Hope you're well ;-)

chinadoll said...

Dope,

You are not welcome here so go sling your hook.

If you want to ascertain the news, try reading a newspaper or switch the tv on.

Doppelganger said...

SeaWitch,

I am pretty amazed and disgusted at the moment as you can probably guess.

Saw Andrew Neil on Sky and agreed with about 95% of what he said. Our press is an absolute and total disgrace.

Still what do you expect why pornographers run newspapers.

chinadoll said...

Rosiepops,

I want one of those little delete buttons, so that I can blast a certain poster into orbit.

SeaWitch said...

I haven't had time to catch up on the news yet, but will go and look at what Andrew Neil had to say.

Dontcha know what we all do for a living on this blog, Doppelganger!

LOL!! ;-)

Mum21 said...

Doppleganger...what the hell are you doing here?
The Judge is..Mr Justice Eady .

Now if you have any sense at all you will go and try to calm down your fellow anti's on Alsabella's blog. Because they have got out of hand and some are actually making accusations against the McCann's.
I have no time for Alsabella at all...but I do feel her posters are treating her unfairly. They know that they cannot be sued...and they know Alsabella can.
It is the owner of the blog that is held responsible.
The posters over there do not seem to give a damn what happens to her.
Perhaps they have never heard of the word loyalty.

chinadoll said...

I really hope that Kate & Gerry, their family, friends and loved ones, have a wonderful Easter Weekend and take some comfort from recent events and the support they have from the masses of decent fair and kind hearted people.

melbel said...

China
Well said.I am rocking furiously on my rocking chair.
Do not, anyone feed the trolls.

chinadoll said...

That's right Dope, you just pop your snout in when you know this is a quietish time of the evening on here.

We debate very well without you and prefer not to have to suffer your petty distractions.

Now why not joing the others in their mad make believe world - I am sure you would be most welcome there and would fit in very well.

Hiya Seawitch,

I think your outfit is lovely hun.

helenm said...

Hi

Mum21 said...

Doppleganger. It won't be the McCann's who sue her. It will be Google, who own the blog.
If the McCann's sue anyone regarding Alsabella's blog...it will be Google...because they own it.

chinadoll said...

Hi Melbel,

Read your posts earlier and as usual, I found them very accurate, informative and honest.

Are you organised for the holidays?

helenm said...

Jane,

You rang!!!

chinadoll said...

Hi Mum21 amd HelenM,

Lets just ignore the wimp - I will not call him a man.

archer said...

Good evening Laydeez

I hope that you are all well and keeping warm !

It's great that Kate and Gerry have received this public apology -though a great many of us already knew that the papers had taken great journalistic license in their 'stories'.

Having read Piers Morgan's book from his time at the DM I can only assume that they work to the adage of "Never let the truth get in the way of a good story".

Let's hope that this makes them more responsible and cautious in the future.

chinadoll said...

Hiya Archer,

Nice to see you. Hope you saw my message to you last night.

As for your avatar, your not going to pull many punters dressed like that lol.

Mum21 said...

Doppleganger. Please leave...you are not liked or wanted here.
I have noticed you are not much liked or wanted on the other blog either.
So..do us a favour and leave us in peace.
Thank you.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi All,

What a great day. I am so elated for Kate and Gerry that I will on this occasion turn a blind eye to Rosie raiding my wardrobe!!

This poor family have been subjected to so much hate, all because they asked for help in finding their daughter.

The £550,000 is a small award considering what this heartbroken family have been subjected to but at least it will help to maintain their search and hopefully that long awaited breakthrough.

The papers on the other hand have no-one else to blame but themselves.

melbel said...

Hiya China.Thanks for that.
I have a new grandchild,due very soon, so we are on standby for looking after my grandson.
Hope you are ok and all sorted, too.
I cannot believe that a litle gran, like me, can be talking about trolls!
Finding the keys, on the keyboard,is a work of heart.
It is when dinosaurs like me, get fired up, with injustices, though, that they need to sit up and take note.
This is the most heartbreaking case,I can remember and I abhor the way they have been treated, all on top of the upset about Madeleine being abducted.
Mrs healey,[mum of kate ],had it right, when she talked of daily crucifixion.
What have they done to this poor family ?
x

SeaWitch said...

Oh, lawks!

The beauty spell's worn off. I've turned back into a horrible hag!

Oh, dear, it's back to turning princes into frogs and terrifying small children again........

SSSSccccrrreeeeeeeeechh!

Mum21 said...

Sorry..I am forgetting my manners.
Good evening everyone.

archer said...

China

You know what they say "Red hat, no dr*ws.....lol

Mum21 said...

Archer. Take no notice, they are only jealous...I love your avatar

chinadoll said...

Hi Tinkerbell,

Rosie has been dipping into your wardrobe, but there is only one fairy on here lol - you have the copyright to that one.

I have wings, but I am an angel lol

Brilliant news - yes. In my opinion, the payment was a token one, as the front page apologies were the real motive and quite right too.

Mum21 said...

Archer. I am knitting you a nice bright red scarf to match your beautiful hat.

archer said...

Mum

Thank you, might change later if the weather turns.. :¬)

Mum21 said...

Archer..you are doing better than Seawitch. I think she is trying to frighten the punters away.

chinadoll said...

Melbel,

You must be really excited with the pending birth. Tinkerbell was made a grandma (not sure if for the first time) recently.

Keep up the brilliant posts Melbel and ignore the wimps of this world.

Doppelganger said...

Mum21,

Google are a company based in the United States of America which also has very strict laws on freedom of speech, I believe.

And somehow I don't think Google would sue any of its own contributors, especially foreign nationals.

Don't think that would go down very well in the US or anywhere else for that matter.

helenm said...

Hi all, looks like someones outed ROTB on Alsabella's blog. Take a look

Mum21 said...

Doppleganger. Anything you say.
Now please go away because I cannot be bothered to argue with you...even though I know more about websites and how the legalities work than you are ever likely to know.
That is my last comment to you.

chinadoll said...

Archer,

Red hat no drawers ?

Where I come from, it's 'Fur coat, no knickers' lol

melbel said...

China
Thanks a lot.We are off to an Easter party, at his playgroup,tomorrow.
They are really comical at two and have many a laugh.
It is a lot saner, over here,than the parallel universe!
Epera,had been threatening to throw herself off Cardiff bridge and to do a mass streak, at a big match or outside the House of Commons!
You could not make it up!
I think, that there will be many a film made and novel written, not about the case,but about these blogs !
Someone suggested we did a calender,earlier and I definitely want to be included,if we later meet up or do team bonding [we don't need that, as we bond well anyhow ]

archer said...

China

Just read back on last nights posts- or should I say this mornings. Wow - some of you had a late night .

Yeh yeh yeh we have that saying here too :¬)

Rosiepops said...

Well have the lunatics over there calmed down in amy absence?

Don't worry oh board is afe and is not going to be allowed to tip into that kind of frenzy.

chinadoll said...

Bye Bye Dope,

You are welcome to come when you can come to terms with the fact that you are, indeed, wrong.

Only a fleeting visit will be necessary though.

Rosiepops said...

Doppel

We are not going to tolerate posters that stir and try to cause friction between the regular users of this happy blog.

If you want that kind of blog you have three others to choose from.

Thank you and Goodnight.

chinadoll said...

Oy HelenM

Your a bit late, I've already done the copy and paste job and I found out how to today!!! lol

chinadoll said...

OK Archer,

Put those gnashers back, they are truly shocking lol

helenm said...

Chinadoll, you must be faster on that zimmer frame!!! 1-0 to you!LOL

chinadoll said...

Hey Melbel,

If she wants to protest that much, she should sell tickets, I'd pay good money to see that.

helenm said...

Yea gods!! I've done it again. First post on a new page. Think I'd better do the lottery this week, what do you think?

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