Sunday, 16 March 2008

kate and Gerry In The Clear - Not A Shred Of Evidence, Yet Still These Parents Left Dangling By The Portuguese Policia Judiciaria!

http://www.people.co.uk/news/news/tm_method=full%26objectID=20314199%26siteID=93463-name_page.html

Police do not have a shred of evidence against Gerry and Kate McCann and they are set to be cleared as suspects, it was claimed yesterday.
The couple's status as 'arguidos' in the case of missing daughter Maddie, four, will be lifted unless they make "screaming contradictions" in a new police quiz, said Portugal paper Expresso.

Cops had to make the McCanns formal suspects in order to reveal evidence they had to Kate.
That move was branded "hasty" lastweek by police chief Alipio Ribeiro because if cops had waited two weeks, the law changed and they could have shown Kate that evidence without making her a suspect.

A McCann spokesman said the Expresso report is "extremely encouraging".
Legal letters outlining 40 questions police want to ask the McCanns will be sent to the UK this week after months of delays.

The People Feb 10th 2008

My Take On This:

This report was dated Feb 10th. Note that those "Letters Rogatory" Were supposed to be sent in that week around the 10th, it is now March 16th, over one month later - still NO letters rogatory and still no detectives from the supposedly elite Policia Judiciaria have arrived in Britain. The only thing that we have is "talk" of them coming. I know we have differences between countries, inevitably we will experience language prolems and differences in procedures etc, but in all honesty, is it really acceptable in these days of technology, that it has taken a supposed modern day police force 10 months to get to where?

  • "Where are we exactly?"
  • Where exactly is this case?
  • What is happening?
  • Why is is taking so long?
  • Is it acceptable to keep people dangling around on a thread like this?
  • Is it acceptable that the PJ apparently stopped looking for Madeleine in week 3?
  • Is it acceptable that a police force can leak scurrilous information to the Portuguese press?
  • When Goncalo Amaral was in charge if this investigation, highly sensitive information was leaked - Who leaked this information giving reports of witness statements; Names, addresses home and mobile telephone numbers?
  • Who was responsible for the letters rogatory being sent to Britain, but never arrived?
  • Is it acceptable that the PJ then turn around and blame the British government for stalling the process and do not even apologise, when it became clear that it was the Portuguese Attorney General's Office which was at fault?

There are so many questions about this investigation where anyone with a modicom of common sense realises has slipped into shambolic chaos - a farce, I have three further questions to ask of the Potuguese government:

  • "When are you going to make your police force accountable to you and your people?"
  • "At the centre of this is a missing innocent child - When is there going to be an official inquiry into this farcical disgrace of an investigation?"
  • "When are you going to get rid of Portugal's archaic secerecy laws, which have been used and abused in this case, often allegedly by the PJ themselves?"

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Dobywallah said...

Good morning friends, hope you are all in good health and completely sober? Great news about Sannon "but" something is not quite right is it, I'm wondering if she deliberately left her home and family due to possible child abuse. More in this than meets the eye but guess it will all come out soon, unlike Portuguese Secrecy Laws where nobody is told anything and we only have JP Leaks to confuse the issue!

Dobywallah said...

Can't believe I'm the only Poster so far this morning (10.03) Come on now, the day is young and I'd like to hear (see) your cheerful voices ringing out above the sound of church bells and all the football fanatics prancing around on the local muddy field shouting instructions to each other using somewhat crude expletives!

Rosiepops said...

Morning Doby

great to see you.

Unfortunately, it looks like you could be correct about Shannon and I hear the police have just been granted a further extension on their care order.

Some papers are asking if this could be a hoax. Of course the police will look at this, they are duty bound to do so and we would expect no less but if this was a hoax, it was not a very good one. The paper I read this morning subliminally threw the mention of £50.000 into its report! But from what I can see, no one appears eligible to clan this £50.000.
Of course we are in a stage now where the police will not release any information of importance they may have, so the papers will make it up.
There seems to more here than meets the eye, but whatever this is a child is in the middle of it.

It is a given that charges of some sort will be brought over this, but the unique situation seems to be that no one actually knows just who is going to be charged and with what!

Rosiepops said...

Correction:

Police have been given an extension of 36 hours to further question 'Mick Donovan', not an extension of the care order.

I think the police emergency care order runs out tomorrow and the Social Services will probably go to court to extend the care order, if it is felt necessary. To me at this moment in time, it looks very much like this is exactly what will happen.

helenm said...

Hi anyone there?

SassyP said...

Hiya Helen

Just come on! How ya doing?

Shannon Matthews has just been mentioned on Austrian radio. They said that they think she was sexually abused as her mum's boyfriend's uncle had paedophiliac tendencies.

Haven't looked at British papers yet - just got in, so will look after lunch.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Morning All,

Just a brief visit. Busy night Sass ? Dont know about you but I'm sitting on a rubber ring this morning :0)

Dont know if Rosie is still around, she was last seen heading up the M4, lol.

helenm said...

Hi Sassyp, just been messing about with photos. Can't keep up with Rosie's! Looked at papers online this a.m not seen any mention of that so fr, maybe take another look. If there is one thing that the disappearance of Madeleine has taught me is that Ino longer take much notice of the tabloids, that pinch of salt has now just about turned into a sack full!!

helenm said...

Hi Tinks, are you feeling better? I don't know why and she will probably lay into me later, but a picture of Rosie racing along the
M4 brought to mind Noddy in his little (red?) car chased by the police (int this case the PJ!!!!)lol.

Dobywallah said...

Good morning (just) Tinks-Sassy-Helen- and last but not least Rosie. Tried to get onto the Alsabella blog this morning but must be doing something wrong as apart from pictures of Portugues lakes etc., could get all the lying comments. Must be there I'm sure but just can't find them.
As for Shannon,I'm sure you are right about the Care Order, etc., but I'm of the opinion that things weren't quite right for her at home so she joined up with this 'Uncle' guy to get away from the Step father. The mother seemed genuinely upset at the childs disappearance and ecstatic joy when she was found. But it will be very interesting to learn all the facts of the case when they do come out. Meanwhile Shannon doesn't seem that bothered about returning home does she?

Rosiepops said...

Get your sackful of salt ready Helen.

Apparently breaking news on Sky TV has said that "police are cautiously optimistic that Shannon is unharmed"

The source? NOT an official police statement but a source of Sky news apparently got this from a cols family member!

I hope to God this is true and if it is it is close to what I think may have happened here, but you have to ask WHY is Sky News splashing this as breaking news when the are not sure?
Also all these people now talking to the press and saying these things about they told police a week ago etc, you have to ask why they did not go to paper sooner with their stories? After all the news papers have been offering rewards and publishing contact telephone numbers for weeks!

I smell a stinking big rat here!

helenm said...

Hi Rosie, thought you were racing up the M4? Don't tell me you were being ch.... can't spell it, driven then? I'll take a look at Sky News, must say all this salt is not good for the Bloood pressure!!

helenm said...

Hi Doby, visited Alsabella's blog earlier, click on the time and not the comments and you should be able to see the postings. I had the same trouble myself this a.m

Rosiepops said...

Hi All

Tinks and Sassy, just got in from a night on the road!

Doby,

I agree something is not quite right here. I too thought Karen's mum look both genuine distraught and genuinely ecstatic at the loss and the the discover of Shannon.

More or less what you have said I have commented too. I just feel that Shannon was on the way to her fathers? This man Donovan may have found/seen her and he took her in because she was upset and has allowed her to stay there for whatever reason. Apparently he is an oddball by all accounts, more will emerge about him in the coming days. I would think he will be charged with something, but what?

One thing is for certain Shannon and her brothers and sisters will be closely looked along with the family unit.

At the moment we are seeing people's characters destroyed in the media, who are showing no restraint in what they are publishing, I was absolutely disgusted to see and read Karen's grandparents slating their daughter in one of the Sunday's and not only this they have allowed a picture of them with the faces and names of their grandchildren to be published.

Apparently karen who is said is not speaking to her parents allowed her two children to be taken there for three days and they were dropped off by police, when suddenly during their interview with the newspaper someone turned up and took the children away from the grandparents and the paper witnessed this.
The children were said to be tearful and distressed and did not want to return home.

I would like to ask these grandparents, if they are so worried about the safety of their grandchildren;

Why didn't they do something sooner?
Why did they agree to look after the children and immediately expose them to a Sunday tabloid?
Why are they speaking in such a derogatory way about their daughter?
How much are they getting paid for their story?
I am not liking this at all.

Rosiepops said...

Helen

no you got that wrong, it was not the M4, I was on duty on the M1 last night.

Get it right, who do you think you are a reporter for 24 Horas or the News of the World? lol

Christabel said...

Afternoon losers.

Not got much stamina have ya you lot.
I bin up and down the M54 all night, just got in.
I had a copper stop me and ask if I'd got the time,
I said sorry mate I've got the time but not the money.lol !

Where's our next job Rosie ?

Rosiepops said...

What is this about Alsabliar's site? I haven't looked in there or Vile's for a few days.

I fond the level of libellous comments there to be totally alarming, if I were a McCann looking at these sites I would be talking to my solicitor.

Rosiepops said...

Hi Christabel,

Well you have heard of crop rotation? I suggest we have Highway rotation, stop the punters getting bored!

Christabel said...

Rosie,
I need a rest first, bout 12 months should do it lol.

Looks like my instincts regarding Shannon may be right after all ?

helenm said...

Rosie, you are not missing anything on Alsabella's site. The usual 2345 stating 'facts', seems to be on a new theme now, that of the eye defect that Madeleine has. Implies that she had Charges syndrome and that is why Kate had trouble in keeping her in order. She needs to be careful what she posts. I can see the tide turning, she no longer has the support of other posters.

Off for a while now. Not racing up/down the M1/4 but up the A22 towards Silves for lunch. See you later.

SassyP said...

Hiya

Just had a look in. Had to take an E road instead of the M1. (These are the roads that connect European countries!). The M1 just wasn't a challenge anymore. Huh! And those morons think we've retired!!! Never been more active! (We really saw last night that Arsabella is just as vicious as Claudia-what-a-scummy-vicious-moron). Oh well, birds of a feather!

Good luck on the A22, Helen. Don't encroach on Arsabella's territory will you!!!

Rosiepops said...

Well one road I am definitely not going up is the A 2345!

Rosiepops said...

Helen,

Well no stopping on the way to try and get enough euros to pay for it all!

What is the work stuation around Faro?
I hear there is a lot of info going for the right kind of payment!

Rosiepops said...

Sassy,

I don't know what is wrong with Arsebella, I hear all the cars and trucks just keep passing her by! (very quickly)

SassyP said...

Gawd no, don't go there Rosie. Cadavers sniffing out reports. Quincy's team everywhere. Leave well alone!

JANEGT said...

GOOD AFTERNOON YOU NUTTY BUNCH

just in phew, thirsty, that M6 is sooooo long. don't these bollards get in the way though? I SAID BOLLARDS....NOT BOLL..........EEEK

hee hee

I agree, I do not like the Shannon story at all. totally dysfunctional family and has been for a long time, but now, thankfully it WILL be sorted out. Can't let go now. The police knew for days, as her swimsuit was found, and they had the boyfriend's uncle in their sights. What a mess!!!! A lot of us thought there was 'more' to this, but as usual we all rejoiced in a 9 year old safe and alive as is the priority here.

Now, at last, people are going to look at Shannon's and her half brothers' and sisters' best interests. Not before time it would seem.

It will all come out, as the whole lot of them are certainly not accused of being 'discrete' or 'silent' on this.

I don't care, I only care about Shannon and her future so this never happens again.

Mum21 said...

Helen. That is cheating. You don't get lunch at the end of the road unless you earnt it on the way.
I am still travelling along the M27...with one knobbly knee showing. Thought that may just help.
Giving it my ALL.

Mandz said...

Will the McCann’s receive an apology from the PJ when their suspect status has been dropped and will they admit they let down a little girl who needed their help? Will they accept that she was abducted?

How can anyone be so horrible towards this heartbroken couple? I do not understand it.
*******************************

'As a parent of an abducted child, I can tell you that it is the most painful and agonising experience you could ever imagine. My thoughts of the fear, confusion and loss of love and security that my precious daughter has had to endure are unbearable – crippling. And yet I am not the victim, Madeleine is. No child should EVER have to experience something so terrible.'
KATE McCANN (findmadeleine.com)
FEBRUARY 2008


Kate and I heard the totally heart-warming news today that Shannon Matthews has been recovered safely. We are delighted for her family and hope and pray that Shannon has not suffered too much during the last 24 days.

Although the circumstances may be different, finding Shannon alive does give Kate and me renewed optimism. I am reminded of Ernie Allen’s ( the president of NCMEC) words: ‘until you know who has taken Madeleine and why, you cannot give up hope’. We do not know who has taken Madeleine or why, and there is certainly no

joanypony said...

Hi everyone, so glad Rosiepops guided me to this forum.

Hope you are all well. What a feeling it was when the DX forum went and you were left wondering how everyone was doing.

So glad Shannon has been found and I hope she is unharmed. I also hope there is a thorough investigation into all her circumstances before she is allowed home.

Mandz said...

Joanypony!

fantastic you are here!! I think someone (Melbel) went on the DX and saw you there and told Rosie!

I was shocked when the DX got pulled however it's much better here!

SassyP said...

Hiya Mandz, Joanypony and Mum21

Joanypony - great that you found your way over here. Much friendlier than on the DX.

Sass

SassyP said...

Joanypony

Let's hope that Shannon's homelife will be better for her now people are checking it out for her.

Rosiepops said...

Hi Mandz, Mum and a big welcome to Joanypony

Hi Joany so glad you made it, you didn't get lost with my instructions then? LOL

I agree with all you have said.

More news coming from the Shannon investigation, poor little girl. I am just so glad that she has been found alive and apparently well! best news possible here!

Just going to finish sending an email and I will be back, want to read what Madz has written

Joany if you click on the top where it says "Madeleine McCann - Justice For ALL The Family" this will take you to the front page and you will be able to click on past stories to have a read and get a feel for the forum. Yesterdays was quite funny Alsabliar (Arsebella) has been out for the liar we all knew she was, well yesterday she called us all "Highway Whores" using the expletive F word! mm yes she is showing herself in her true colours, so if you see references to highways and roads and motorways etc you know what we are on about. LOL

if you want to get out of one story and into another or return here just click on the top of the page and it will take you back to the front page and then look for to days story or the story you want to read the comments on and click on comments and you will enter that story.

It is fine when you get used to it I promise.

really great to see you here Joany xxx

joanypony said...

Mandz, sassyp, rosiepops et al, thanks for the welcome, nice to be among friends again.

I will take a wee while to find my way around so be gentle with me lol!!!

JANEGT said...

afternoon joanypoany

JANEGT HERE. HOW ARE YOU THESE DAYS????

JANEGT said...

HELLO ROSIE, MUM21, SASSY, MANDZ

mum21

hope your lunch didnt get cold on your zimmer frame up that motorway today.

Christabel said...

Hi all,
nad a big welcome Joany.

Rosie I need some more red bulbs, gone through all the one's you gave me.
I think I might go out again in a bit.
Glad the M54 is only short, I kept meeting myself coming back lol !
No luck with what I emailed you ?

Christabel said...

Cancel that email comment Rosie it worked

Rosiepops said...

Christabel

Like your avatar but it uses too many bulbs, i haven't got any left as I was working too long last week!

SassyP said...

Christabel

Love your new avatar! Wanted to change mine last night, but forgot! Will have a look around.

SassyP said...

Jane - Hiya! How ya doing?

Rosie - Where's my hello? Honestly! Some people!

Joanypony - We're always gentle on here!

joanypony said...

Hello Christabel and JANEGT, I am fine, glad I've found out where all the 'nice people' from the DX site went lol!!

Christabel said...

Sass just put in red lights.

Rosie won't give me any more bulbs,
has she had her cut from your earnings, she came for mine this morning.

Never told her where I kept the rest lol!

Rosiepops said...

Hey Christabel

what about thiS one?

Christabel said...

Joany,
you wouldn't say that if you knew what Rosie has had us all doing the last 2 nights.
What a Madam she is lol !

SassyP said...

Christabel

Do you like my picture? Something's not quite right . . . can't put my finger on it . . .

Christabel said...

Hey Rosie,
I saved that one for later, spose you can have it being as your the BOSS lol.

Rosiepops said...

Joany

how do you like our avatars?

Rosiepops said...

Sassy

PMSL

SassyP said...

Joanypony

Just to explain all the red-light joking. Last night Alsabelia decided to show everyone what she is REALLY like and called us all "retired highway whores". Charming, isn't she?

Christabel said...

Sass,
are you alright.

Its a bloody cheesecake, no wonder your earnings was down lol.

Rosiepops said...

Leigh3 will be happy

SassyP said...

Joanypony,

That's why my avatar is of a tart. Something still not quite right . . .

Rosiepops said...

hey Joany

are you trying to say something to us with your avatar? LOL

SassyP said...

Rosiepops

Glad you got it!

Christabel - it's a tart! So much for "it takes one to know one!"

Christabel said...

Rosie,

that would be a first Leigh3 happy lololololololol!

Arsabella knows what highway whores are, I didn't.
Is this the name for them in Portugal, wonder if its her line of work.

JANEGT said...

ha ha ha haaaa CHRISTABEL

where did you ge THAT avatar???

brill....
see you were copied and pasted last night on all the blogs with your joke with me......

must have been dullsville there yet again.......

ha ha ha ha
;o)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

my avatar is now TART WITH A HEART

i fell off my M6 this afternon and so am home for good, too foggy. ;o))

SassyP said...

Rosie

I hadn't thought of Leigh3! I would write her an invitation to come here, but I'd be deleted!

Rosiepops said...

I ahd never heard of it before last bnight either!

Wonder how Alsabliar knew? All I can say is that she must have a laptop on mobile with internet access!

SassyP said...

I'd never heard of highway whores either!

Christabel said...

Hi Jane,
tell them to copy and paste this "V".
Might be to thick to know what it is but apparently they post it in full

One of the punters gave me their card and I copied it lol.

Rosiepops said...

Has anyone heard when the PJ are coming?

JANEGT said...

no no no she could never be a 'worker'....no

Madame in chief. At least. And how.

helenm said...

Hello all, just got back from lunch (no I didn't have itwith the PJ's, lunch that is!!!). Just read some back posts and realised what I stumbled into. Hadn't read what went on last night. The cheek of it! Who was it last time that made reference to ladies of the night? Was it Leigh23/3?. Do you think they are one and the same person?

Passes the Arade and I must say that the water level is down and the banks of mud have increased in depth. The divers have some job on their hands.

JANEGT said...

haha Rosiepops

how'd you do THAT one??? brill.

SassyP said...

Just looking at Sky news. The police are defending themselves against criticism that they took 24 days to find Shannon.

That bodes ill for the PJ!

SassyP said...

HelenM

Are they still diving in the dam? I thought that they had finished.

helenm said...

Hi Sassyp don't know. The arade is so vast I wouldn't know where to start looking.

joanypony said...

I am almost scared to ask, but what is an avatar and I'll give you ten minutes to stop laughing and answer my question?!!!

JANEGT said...

your dog is joanypony

it's the pictures beside our names...??

JANEGT said...

hi helen

I read they were finishing the search of the dam on Friday. wonder what they are doing?

Mandz said...

Hi Girls & Boys!

Did Alsaliar say that..?

archer said...

Good Evening Ladies

I hope you are all well.

How's business? :¬)

archer said...

Good Evening Ladies

I hope you are all well.

How's business? :¬)

joanypony said...

You learn something new everyday, but I probably should have known that, sorry!

JANEGT said...

archer

about £34.555 down tonight on last night's takings.

ha ha ha ha ha ha

MANDZ

love your avatar too. very er em 'apt' I thik???????

Has Rosie and Sassy fallen asleep A G A I N????

Rosiepops said...

Joany

Well 10 mionutes have passed and I am still laughing.

No of coursre I'm not, lol rotflmao

SassyP said...

Mandz

Great avatar! Love the stuff people have come up with!

Archer - just to explain about the avatars, Arsabliar called us retired highway whores last night. Not quite the sweet person she made out she was!

SassyP said...

Jane

Am multitasking so there probably will be gaps in my posting!

Rosiepops said...

Jane,

Blimey you must have been busy at 50p a go!

Rosiepops said...

Sassy

Don't forget she used the F word in doing so too!

Charming demure Alsabliar (waves V)

JANEGT said...

oi I want to complain

as AARCHER aske TWICE how's business

Has Roie given him a percent cut too? If so, my ages are too low now and I might have to stop and do ordinary A roads.......

;o(()))

helenm said...

Jane, that was just for a feel right? don't sell yourself so cheaply!!!LOL

Christabel said...

Hi Mandz and archer,,

you tart Mandz, we have all been back ages lol !
Don't forget to give Rosie her cut.

Archer,
takings were good, but Rosie is a bugger to work for lol.
Bet her and Sass are doing the lists for later.

Jane, I did the M54 and A5.

JANEGT said...

sorry

fffffffffffffffinger
malffffffffffffunction
...just like rosie earlier...tee hee. thank goodness

Mandz said...

Sassy!

Love your tart!

Jane....50p you are worth more than that..?!!

JANEGT said...

ok SASSY

as long as you are not asleep on the keyboard with lettered lumps on your head. Doesn't look good for our 'clients' does it????
Madame Rosie would dock your wages. to 40 p an hour.

;o))))))))))))))

archer said...

Sassyp

I never pegged her as a sweety !

I wonder what is puttting her on edge and ruffling her feathers? Could be she is about to look an almighty idiot...

JANEGT said...

Madame R told me Ihad to just get 50p. She is so harsh on me. Oh dear.

joanypony said...

How's this avatar and watch what you say it's my great grandfather!

Mandz said...

Hi Christabel!


No one is getting a cut & why is she the whoremaster..?!!!

archer said...

Christabel

Do I get special dispensation tonight and be allowed to stay in? The weather is really bad out this way, and there are lots of roadworks on the M1 ? Pretty please!!

Christabel said...

I saw Flicicity,

her punters were charging her lol.

The parrot was there, shouting
" thats the way to do it ".
Don't think she spent much, I changed a pound coin for her it was BOGOF.

joanypony said...

HELP!!

Can anyone tell me why all the comments are coming in to my outlook express!! My delete button is about on fire!!

Christabel said...

Archer, Mandz,
yes as long as nobody tell Rosie lol !

You mean to say you are keeping all your earnings, thats not fair.

You know why Rosie's the Madam, cos Leigh3 gave her the job.
She got fed up with it.

Christabel said...

Joany,

Take the tick out of the box
Email follow-up comments to

JANEGT said...

CHRISTABEL

see you have been sucking lemons again to sweeten you up...well said....

GOOD ONE ARCHER

'never had her down for a sweetie. ha ha understatement of the century. well put. ;o)))

JANEGT said...

I keep tuning in for Corrie 7.30 Sundays but it's not on any ore. keep being disappointed. aw shame.

SassyP said...

Archer

It was me who made her freak. She said a couple of weeks ago that I was welcome to post on her bog. I did post something from the Times which was a paragraph about racism in the McCann case. There was a twist in it though - it had nothing to do with the Brits being racist about the Portuguese. I wrote a perfectly polite comment to go with it.

It wasn't a post she agreed with so it got deleted and I was told to F*** off. She deleted her post, too so that people would still think she was nice!!! Then she called us retired highway whores.

Although we never agreed on the DX we could always manage to be civil to each other. Now I can't be bothered with her - she has shown how she really is - a cheap copy of Clawdia.

Mandz said...

Who would stoop that low (obviously Alsaliar) and say such a thing about us wonderful people…?

SassyP said...

Christabel!

That's mean! I love it!

Rosiepops said...

EVERYONE (Yea I am shouting)

I am just going for my dinner, dont feel like eating it feel a bit nauseous (and I haven't even been reading Arsebella's or Viles!)

back at around 8

see you later xx

SassyP said...

Joany

The box Christabel is talking about is under the "Leave your comment" box.

Rosiepops said...

No I'm not have changed my mind delayed by half hour.

SassyP said...

HelenM

Has there been anymore news on the Iberian peninsula about what happened to Mari Luz?

Christabel said...

Rosie,
don't lie, we know what your up to lol !

I'm not having the big list tonight, give it Jane lol!

Rosiepops said...

Tinks has got a clone on dancing with ice, someone pretending to be tinkerbell

Mandz said...

Christabel!
Ok she can get half…!

JANEGT said...

i am watching skating too. brave people.

where is doby?

JANEGT said...

a man.....is a fairy?????

beats pansies then Madame R doesn't it??

joanypony said...

Sassyp

There isn't a box under this comment box.

archer said...

Sassy

The thing with her that I found most irritating was her ridiculous stance she took defending Portugal. I am all for defending my country and being patriotic, but I am not blind to the fact that all is not perfect here. Accepting the need for openness and some transparency would make her a little more believable. It's too late now.

SassyP said...

Joany

Just above where it says "Publish your comment"

Mandz said...

Sassp!
She told you to f*** off..? What a horrible person & just like most Anti. I witnessed the same yesterday from Anti on the DX who all got banned!!! Same language used.

Christabel said...

Joany,
it under the box where you write your comment before posting

Tulip said...

Hi Joany

Below the big comment box there's a place for a tick asking you if you want to have your emails sent to your own email address. Don't tick.

Sorry -- good evening everyone.

SassyP said...

Archer

On the DX it all just reminded me of Animal Farm. "Four legs good, two legs bad."

The Portuguese were the four-legged ones and the Brits the two-legged ones.

The whole time

Britain bad, Portugal perfect. Mention Portugal in anything but glowing terms and you are a racist. It was completely ridiculous and an insult to those who genuinely experience racism.

archer said...

Suzanne perfect 6's on skating onice yehah

SassyP said...

Mandz

Yup, charming eh!

archer said...

Sassy

Sorry about that. Got a bit carried away.

Yes it's not healthy to be that indoctrinated is it?

PJ must have funny people on the payroll these days......

Christabel said...

Archer,
ssshhhhh I'm recording it lol.

Mandz said...

Right better hit the road now...back laters...!!

SassyP said...

Archer

They certainly do! The weirdest of the weird!

SassyP said...

Mandz

Which road is that? M1, M6...? Take your credit card swiper thingy! Don't forget!

archer said...

Christabel

:¬( :¬(

Sorry

Tinkerbell43 said...

Evening All,

Streeeetch, yawn, how are we ?
Blimey haven't been that busy since last week!

Everyone back ?

SassyP said...

Hiya Tinks!

How ya doing? Do you like the new avatars? Aren't they fitting!

SassyP said...

Joany

Did you find the box I mentioned?

archer said...

Ladies

If you are heading out tonight - remember to bypass the motorways unless you can keep your speed up to the minimum speed limit - and do not exceed 70mph cos it's illegal. OK

I can't go tonight cos I have had a glass of Oyster Bay merlot. (Is that ok Jane?)

Mandz said...

Sassp!

That would be telling Sassy..don't want you in my patch again..!

Thanks for the "reminder" !!..You should take over Rosie's job she’s slacking…!!

Hiya Tinks!

Dobywallah said...

JANEGT.
Guess what Jane, have been doing a little snooping on Alsabella and her mates, I get the feeling that some of them are slightly unballanced. I think they believe they have been sent down by the almighty to defend Madeleine against all us wicked Child abusers and condemn her parents into the fires of hell, if you believe that sort of thing! What makes them think they are any more loving and compasionate towards Gods little children than we, the Pro's are? Mad, pathetic and psycotic. Do they actually believe all this stuff or is it just a crazy game with them?

SassyP said...

Doby

I reckon they actually believe it. How arrogant is that?

Dobywallah said...

Mandz, Archer, Sassy, Tinks, Christobel, Rosie, Joanypony and anyone else I've unintentionally missed, good evening! Glad to see you all here, I do come and go a lot just lately but rest assured my heart is always here with you!

Dobywallah said...

Sassy, nice to hear from you, yes I am convinced wome of them have an odd screw or two missing!

Mandz said...

Hi Doby!

They really are a bunch of evil cretins. They are using this little girl as an excuse to lash out.
I was on the DX yesterday and most Anti got banned for their foul mouthed comments! Don’t think they were too happy that I turned up!

Dobywallah said...

Sassy, I've just noticed your Avata, and what the heck is it? Looks like a load of baby beetroots!

Dobywallah said...

Mandz, Hiya, didn't think there was any Maddy forum on the DX and hasn't been for some time?

JANEGT said...

hey Tinkerbell you must be a lot better, you can't half skate well.

brilliant in fact, bound to win. Great stuff.

SassyP said...

Mandz

Well at least it shows you expect more than small change!

Doby

I pop in and out during the day when I can just to check this place isn't being targetted by some moron or another!

I reckon many of them are missing a whole toolbox, never mind a screw or two.

We are still flying the Viseu flag, so despite Clawdia-that-scummy-vicious-moron's insistence that she never posts here, she still spends more time reading our stuff than any of us do!!!

joanypony said...

SassyP

No I haven't.

I am typing in the box at the moment and underneath the only boxes are for my username and password.

archer said...

Dobywallah

Hi... the perfect parent posse - that's what I call them.(amongst other things) Thankfully I am excluded on many counts!

Dobywallah said...

Mandz, I like 'your' Avata, if that's you you are a sexy bitch, but must say I always liked the old one you had for yonks with the sun glasses.

JANEGT said...

I think that poster beginning with was it a D...? don't recall......

has just proved our points totally. well done.

shot...foot ... comes to mind

again

At least no four letter words 'elcome' non abusve posts here.

joanypony said...

SassyP

Stopped them at last!

Went into comments a different way and got an option to unsubscribe from follow-up emails, thank god for that!!

Mandz said...

Doby!

I went on an article about Shannon and the evil cretins were there and were furious that I turned up however I kept my cool and they all got banned! Their language was disgusting.

archer said...

Sassyp

Sorry if this is a dumb question- but do I have to click on the feedgit map thing or does it know I am here ? If you understand that...

SassyP said...

Joany

If you log in once, you shouldn't have to keep logging in! Are you moving from one page to the next? If you are I suggest that you open Internet Explorer a second time and just keep this one on the blog. Then you won't have to keep logging in.

When you have done that, you will see a message saying "You are currently posting as Joanypony" (just under the comments box where you actually write). Then just above the "Publish your comment" button, you will see the box to untick re the follow-up comments.

JANEGT said...

hi Doby

how are you tonight?

skating exhausts me.......so good to do that in such a short time. Well done them.

SassyP said...

Archer

Not a dumb question! It just knows you are here. It isn't always too accurate, it depends on the kind of Internet connection you have. At home I am placed in many places in Austria as I have mobile internet. At work, with the standard landline broadband connection, it is usually pretty accurate.

JANEGT said...

Srcher

Oyster Bay Merlot

sounds good. You enjoy it. I've got the nibbles and crisps so will be over in 10 minutes...
tee hee......

;o)))

Mandz said...

Sassy!

Will look out for you tonight.. I take it you will have your fur on and hair still dyed pink?!!

Dobywallah said...

Tinkerbell my little love, how are you, believe you've had a bad do. A few weeks back i had the most awful chest infection and put up with it for a whole week until in the end went to the docs for some Anti's which did the trick in a few days. But I really was dreadful, cough, cough, cough day and night. Hope you are OK now though. My sister has hadd the same thing and says lots of people whe works with have taken time off work, bit of an epidemic I think!

SeaWitch said...

Good evening, ladies, and gentleman,

What on earth have I missed? I notice some of your avatars have spiced up somewhat, so I thought I'd go risque as well!

Hope you've had a great weekend. Although you seem to have spent a lot of time on motorways......!

archer said...

Jane

Ok but I have to pop to the garage every now and then for my ciggy. See you soon lol

JANEGT said...

sorry ARCHER

got my A and S in a fankle..... Oh dear. That's the 2 finalists I thought would be in the final great stuff. Brave people My money's on tinkerbell.....aka Suzanne.

;o)))

SassyP said...

Jane

We have that programme here, too. It is done by Katharina Witt, whom you may know. She is really funny.

I always thought it is a bit unfair the way the programme is done, because if you are part of a pair with a rookie woman ice dancer you have it a lot easier than vice versa. For example, if you were a professional skater, would you trust a man who doesn't know what he is doing to hold you above his head and spin you round before lobbing you back onto the ice!

SassyP said...

Mandz

You do that! I'll be the one in fake leopard skin and with 5 inch fingernails!

archer said...

Jane

Sshhh keep your voice down Christabel is videoing it.....I agree. Would you be a good friend and get me a dress like Holly's. Not that I would look anything like her wearing it lol

SassyP said...

Seawitch

Hi there! Nice to see you!

For an explanation of the avatars, see my post of 19:14.

Sass

JANEGT said...

I will bring my gas mask and fire hydrant then Archer.

SEAWITCH

How are you? Last night a hoot. How was the horror film? Cheer you up? Hmmm.

Chinadoll was on, puffing away, pre, during and post curry...what a hoot. Good fun. ;o))

Mandz said...

Hi Seawitch love your avatar!!

JANEGT said...

I am whisssspppperrrring Archer

NOONE could look like Holly in that sort of dress.

Herre's Bolero so am multi tasking, plus going to find some wine now as can't be botherred going to Archer's now after all. Too shattered after my walking up down the M6 all night and day. All for 50p a go, and Madame R takes half that. I need a new Madame clearly. ;o)

Dobywallah said...

DOPPLEGANGER.
Just read your Post and see you play the one side against the other, crafty monkey! But you say don't we get bored or fed up not disagreeing? and the truth is, how can we disagree when we al have the same beliefs, the wish and hope that Madeleine is still alive and will be returned to her parents, and secondly that we all "KNOW" that without a doubt, apart from their dreadful mistake of leaving their children unattendedd, they are innocent of any other involvement. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind and I have no connections with Kate and Gerry, am not Scotish nor am i a Catholic. I just believe in the truth and the truth is that both of Madeleines parents are innocent!

Doppelganger said...

SeaWitch,

I think I am the only 'gentleman' here so Hi.

Saw you on the 'other side' the other day but I was too busy to post.

I am 'persona non grata' here and feel like I am intruding on a WI meeting so I won't stay.

However, I hope to have more time to debate the case with people in future - But not here obviously.

Bye Everyone.

SeaWitch said...

Sassy,

Oh! Well, thats a shame, but I'm glad to see everyone's taken it in good humour. The Times article sounds interesting - I shall go and find it - was it recent? Would you please post or mail me the link to make it a bit quicker for me, please?

Jane - number 2 got the PVA glue, newspaper, make-up and fake blood out to make us up as zombies. Yes, we went out in public like that! I shan't write any more for fear of confirming that I am, in fact, a complete loon.... :-)

SassyP said...

Dobywallah.

Apart from that they all agree on Arsabella's site, too. If they don't say three Hail Arsabellas and agree with everything she says they get deleted.

JANEGT said...

SEAWITCH

You were more than half way there naturally, so you wouldn't need much make up anyhow.

ha ha ha hhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaa


that's 8 all I think now is it????

SassyP said...

Doppelganger

So you wrote to say you won't be writing? And the point of that was . . . ?

Mandz said...

Bye Doopleganger!

SassyP said...

Apart from that Doppelgänger, why is like a WI meeting here? Because we are not bitching and pulling people apart? We aren't swearing at people who don't agree, etc?

SeaWitch said...

Mandz,

I like her too, so I'm going to keep her. She has a much better figure than I do, so I'm actually jealous of my own avatar! LOL!!!

Doppleganger,

I think the trick is for everyone not to take themselves too seriously. I don't feel too welcome on the other site myself but if I have something to say, I will still post.

See you again! ;-)

Mandz said...

Bye for now everyone!

Doppelganger said...

Dobywallah,

Well I would never claim to know the truth.

But I know what I believe.

I think everyone would like Madeleine to turn up alive and well and be returned to her family.

But sadly based on all previous experience, the chances of this happening are effectively nil.

I think it is important to have hope, but sometimes it is more important to have closure.

I think that waiting a lifetime for something that is never going to happen will destroy a person eventually.

SassyP said...

See ya Mandz!

Lie back and think of Britain!

SeaWitch said...

Oops! I spelt doppelganger wrongly!

SassyP said...

Seawitch

And then you get deleted (from Arsabella's I mean!)

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi Doby,

Nice to see you. Sorry I've been engrossed in the final of Skating on Ice, highly entertaining.

I'm much better thanks, but I did have to give in and have a day off work. It knocks you for six, just got a chesty cough left now.

SassyP said...

Doppelgänger

Do you think if it was your kid that was missing, you would ever say "I give up now" when there is no sign of a body?

Dobywallah said...

SEAWITCH
Yep, agree with Mandz, nice pair of pins, nice shapely 'but' but what the hell is she wearing on top? can't make it out?

Archer, am i right in thinking you are s smoker? Yak! Tell me posters, how may of my dear friends are smokers, I feel so sad when i see you all puffing the smoke into your lungs. I was a smoker and after a lot of efforts and false starts finally kicked it into touch and I'm delighted with myself. Not easy i admit but with determination and a few patches you can also wave farewell to the cancerous "weed". I'm not preaching ladies it's just that I can see the health hazard, and that's not to mention the dreadful cost, what is it £5 a packet now?

SeaWitch said...

Jane,

But I would need twice as much make up as you....!

9-8 to me!

JANEGT said...

BYE MANDZ

have a nice evening

catch you soon I trust

;o))))

be good. don't 'work' too hard now.....not in leopard tights and 7 inch heels.

JANEGT said...

SEAWITCH

I am jealous of your new avatar too. I would love legs 6 times the length of rest of me too.....

sadly....

not....!!!!

shame.

Mandz said...

SAUCY....

hahaha will do sassy...you really should be prompted to Madam Saucy & kick Rosie off the job....!!

Bye..!

SassyP said...

Doby

I'm not a smoker - never even tried it.

Just being fitted for a halo!

Doppelganger said...

SeaWitch,

I don't think you would ever have trouble on other Blogs and I don't think any of your posts would ever be deleted either.

And to be fair to Sassy and others, I know who deletes my posts here and I also know why and it isn't because I am ever rude or abusive.

archer said...

Doby

I know...I know.....In fact I have no problem 'giving up' done it many a time. Don't seem to last longer than two years before I am back on the weed. I do appreciate your kind thoughts though. Never say never - that's what I say.. :¬(

JANEGT said...

Oh I am biting my elbows, they both worked so so so hard, I hate one has to lose. Makes me cry.

o0(((((((((((((

Rosiepops said...

Hi Everyone

I'm back, didn't earn much the flaming motorway was shut!

Rosiepops said...

Is anyone watching Dancing on Ice?

JANEGT said...

good on ya won't say who sccchhhhhhh

Christabel is taping it.

wow wow wow best programme yet. What a final. 100% plus *****

SassyP said...

I played a madame on stage once! Great laugh!

How can I be Madam Saucy when I have the wrong picture of a tart as my avatar!!!

Christabel said...

Hi Sass, mandz,doby and archer, whoops sorry janey.

Blimey its cold out there.
Don't tell Rosie I finished early will you.
She's not the one has to wear a fur coat and no nickers is she ?

Have I missed anyone ?

Doppelganger said...

Sassy,

I think I would probably spend my whole life waiting, but I think that in the end it would destroy me.

Sometimes things happen that just cannot have a happy ending.

I am an atheist, but I suppose it is situations like that where a persons faith might help them to cope.

Sorry - Got to go now.

Dobywallah said...

Well Ladies, on the point of joining Mandz and Doppleganger and taking a quick peep at TV before I retire. and Rosie, if you are still around I have not forgotten what you said about Kalms and will buy some when I get the chance. Only sell it at Herbalists I Guess!
Taking a last look at your ltest posts then I'm off. so goodnight, see you on the Morrow perhaps! X

Rosiepops said...

Christabel

Excuse me, what do you think you are doing back so early?

Make sure you are back out when the pubs shut!

SassyP said...

See you Dobywallah!

archer said...

Jane

Brilliant wasn't it...always liked that Bolero, still gives me goosebumps..

Hopefully the programme has given ice-skating a big boost. Might go myself there is a rink nearby...

Dobywallah said...

Night.

Rosiepops said...

Actually the reason why your posts are deleted, did not come from me and it was a joint decision, they get deleted because you constantly stir and try to cause friction on the board.

You are such a know all and really you know absolutely nothing.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Doppel,

Just to put the record straight, because as always you are making Rosie out to be the vindictive one, I deleted all of your posts yesterday and I explained why.

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