Sunday, 30 March 2008

How has the Madeleine McCann case affected us?

The disappearance of Madeleine McCann has inevitably struck a chord with every parent. A selection of mums and dads discuss how the case has impacted on their lives.


'I don't know any parent who, after the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, hasn't become more wary or held their child's hand that little bit tighter.

'I'm desperate for news about her. She's my first thought when I see the news or a newspaper and I feel deeply ashamed and disrespectful to the McCann family over my increased paranoia.

'Recently we stayed at a holiday park in a three-bedroom chalet. Despite us sleeping in the room next to our 22-month-old daughter, and my parents being in another on the other side of her, I woke constantly through the nights imagining people breaking in to steal her. It's ridiculous and totally irrational, but it got worse as the week wore on. It happens at home too. I wake at any noise and feel immense relief when I hear her mumble or move.

'A few days ago there was lots of publicity about the lack of freedom that children have these days. In all honesty, the risks to children are probably no greater than they were when we were young but in this media-hyped world we are far more exposed to the potential dangers even if they are one in a million. Of course the supposed low level of danger is no consolation to the parents whose child is that 'one' and that's what's holding us all back.'

Kirstin, mum of one


'It's a tricky one really as I think it's such an unusual case. It's not like she was snatched in a crowd or anything. Whoever it was broke into the apartment to take her.



'We were at a wedding in Cape Town last year and the hotel provided a baby sitter service. We used it, but we gave the sitter and the hotel management a good grilling first and went to check regularly. Amelia even left early to go back and take over. We also took Jess with us every time we went out to eat.



'I guess I'm saying that while it's such a terrifying thing, it hasn't really changed how I do things.'


Fraser, dad of two



'Like most people around the country I have had a really profound reaction to the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. I have a little girl myself and I feel like my reaction to the situation has been much more acute than before I was a mother. Just seeing those images of Madeleine everywhere makes my stomach churn and her family's relentless campaign to find her reduces me to tears nearly every time I see it on the news.

'It comes with the territory to be protective of your children and Kate McCann's words 'please don't frighten her...' stayed with me for days. I can only imagine the guilt and desperation of the McCann's as their frantic search continues with no positive outcome. I am really supportive of their efforts in what must be becoming more and more desperate every day.

'It won't affect our holiday plans. You have to be mindful of the odds of something like this happening to your family, but it's still horrific that you have to acknowledge that this sort of thing happens at all, especially to our most precious and vulnerable. If I'm truthful I'll have an extra eye on my daughter and probably be that little bit more vigilant on holiday and when we're out and about generally. Even this weekend, I found myself hopping out of bed to double check that her bedroom window was closed tight.'

Katie, mum of one

'I'm seeing lots of comments (not just here, everywhere) on the lines of 'I won't let my children out of my sight for a moment' and 'these days the world is so dangerous', and it got me thinking about the 'good old days'.

'I don't think these things are happening nowadays more than they used to. In this world of mass media (and mass hysteria) we just hear about them more often.

'When I was a child, my parents were very protective. I wasn't allowed to go to discos or clubs when I was a teenager. But as a little girl I was left home alone with my sister while my parents worked. My Grandmother used to come and keep an eye on us but she wasn't there all the time. I was allowed to play in the park and fields with my older sister and cousins.

'I guess my point is, that things aren't really any more dangerous these days, and perhaps we shouldn't let ourselves get carried away by 'smothering' our kids and not allowing them any freedom or independence, on the off-chance (and it is an extremely tiny chance) that some evil lowlife is waiting for the opportunity to snatch them away.

'That isn't to say I'm lax with my boys' safety. I do keep an eye on them but they do leave my sight occasionally. Last summer we managed to lose them both, separately, when they wandered of in a fun park. Thankfully we found them safe and well, and my heart was in my mouth until we did, worrying about what had happened.

We have left them in hotel rooms while we had supper in the restaurant (with the monitor switched on of course). If there are baby sitters or baby listening services we would use them, but they are not always available.

'Of course, God forbid, if anything did happen to them I would never forgive myself for not watching them enough, but I am not going to go through life constantly worrying that something will happen.

'Madeleine is very much in my thoughts and I am hoping and praying that she is found safe and well.'

Zofia, mum of four

http://www.ivillage.co.uk/parenting/pracad/parcare/articles/0,,186674_710962,00.html

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chinadoll said...

Thanks for that Rosie...

and the village website really is an extemely popular website amongst mums.

chinadoll said...

HBTC, any takers on my coded message?

The book is open and I am taking bets ladies.

Hubby is being persistent, so must go.

Goodnight all.

helenm said...

Chinadoll,

I've got it!!!

HBCT = Helen better take cover!!!!lol

OR

Have bought this computer!!

OR

Helen better try chocolate!!

Diane and Calcite, read you posts from last night, IF the PJ come looking you are welcome in my home anytime. Judging by their latest investigation I think w will be pretty safe!

helenm said...

Sassy,

I wish to put in a formal complaint.

How can I be expected to post first on pages if you put a new article up in the middle of the night? Just not fair old girl!

helenm said...

OR

Helen's brave to come (HERE)!!!

melbel said...

I have always said,that I thought it unwise to leave the children and Kate,herself,questioned why they ever thought it was safe.
In a peaceful,family orientated and upmarket spot,in the presence of a group of friends,they made a catastrophically wrong decision and do people seriously think,that they do not know this ?
They were not "on the lash" and were eating within the vicinity.
The number of bottles of wine drunk,has been shown to be exaggerated.
They were not the only people doing this and it is said that the Tapas bar cleared,when the news came in.
This was not all Brits,by any means.That said, I am heartbroken for them and for Madeleine and am certain that these children are loved and cared for children.
Were there any dirt to dish, back home,in Leicestershire, this would have been done and it has not.
SSD, are thorough in assessment, especially in such a high profile case and they have deemed that the twins are appropriately left with their family.
I recall going to a holiday camp,many years back and walkaround nannies,were the norm, while parents could pop to the onsite club.
Our children were older and got chickenpox[irony, as I had won the holiday and we were hard up], so it did not come up.
I go cold, to think of it now.
Regarding the Mccann case, I think that there is a limit to the number of times, strangers can keep picking this particular scab.
We all make errors and poor Jamie Bulger's mother, just turned her back,for one little minute.
You cannot eliminate all risks and though from a strong,protective family,I used to wander off, in the fields, sometimes with friends and sometimes alone, because that is what children in farming areas [school age children] used to do.
The risk of some cruel abductor, was minute and is minute and I think the McCs were the unluckiest people.
Any genuine parent, knows too, that life, is one continual risk assessment,whatever the age of child.The risks just become different.
I could not join a hate blog, though, to crucify them, day in and day out.
I am too full of compassion for all of them.
I reserve my anger, for the person who has committed this vile act and may this person roast in Hell.[which will be hopefully meted out in their life on this earth].
We all make parenting mistakes. I have made many and am proud to have raised some half decent human beings.
I cannot think of anything else to say, so that is a good place to stop.
Good morning, all, on this beautiful day.
I am going to run amok,with a cleaning mop, in case today is the day we have to rush off re the new grandchild.x
God Bless,Madeleine and all her family.
None of you deserved this and may God's strength enfold you, in your search for your beloved daughter.
May all your tears be wiped away.

JANEGT said...

CHINADOLL

GOT IT¬¬¬!!!!!

hbtc

HORRID BLOGGERS TORTURE CHAMBER

Jojam said...

Good Morning All,

I have not been around for a while due to the death of my Mother.

I have looked at the recent posts, the comments however seem to have very little to do with justice for Madeleine & her family, mostly ridicule of other blogs.......I find this very sad.

To answer the Question "How has the Madeleine McCann case affected us?"

I would say IMO the media reporting of the case has caused an unhealthy obssesion in some people who have lost all sense of reason & perspective. This is demonstrated on blogs whereby the posters' behave in a way that can only be described as irrational............Both 'Pro & Anti' I believe it has damaged many posters' mental health.

I am pleased that alsabella has seen the damage blogs are doing & has removed hers. Posting ony 'reflections' not inviting comments.

I feel it would be a good thing for all Madeliene blogs to do the same..........This surely would show Madeleine & her Family the Dignity & Respect they deserve.

I wish you all well & Good Mental Health

JANEGT said...

jojam

I AM SORRY ABOUT YOUR MOTHER. It is a very sad time for you and my thoughts are with you.

We don't know if Alsabella made the choice of stopping her blog......or Google or someone else stopped it. I thought it was totally stopped and not even 'reflections' were posted now at all. The jury is still out on that one.

melbel said...

Jojam
Very sorry to hear about your mother and may God Bless you and all your family.
You are always a very balanced poster and greatly respected on this forum.
Take care .

Jojam said...

Janegt,
Thankyou for your comments, Yes 'Reflections' is still there. I think it would do everyone good to sit back and reflect on the case & how it has affected them.

I'm feeling very reflective at the moment which is to be expected given my personal loss.

Melbel,

Thankyou for your comments, I do try to maintain a balanced view of the case, I can see errors from all concerned & I cannot say that I'm Pro or Anti..........I hate those labels...........Both The McCanns & the PJ have made errors of judgement but I do not believe either deserve the dreadfull comments made on blogs & HYS. by some posters'

I just hope & pray that the case is resolved in the near future.

melbel said...

Just a last thought, leading on from what Jojam said, I believe that many people could have been made "ill, " by what has happened to this child and the subsequent unbalalanced media coverage.
I never bought in to the Diana situation, or the people,who travelled miles, to put flowers, by the spot, where little abducted children have been found.
While having the utmost compassion for these families and wanting to show respect, I did not know them personally and thought that people,well intentioned, were using them,as proxies, in their own lives.
I think that people bring their own agendas to this and recall Big Al, [who I believe has a kind heart]being permanently in a rage and writing cruel words in poems and speaking in a way, that he never would [I am guessing]in real life.
He wrote once about friends who could not have children and were facing IVF,but it was, to me, as if his compassion had got somehow twisted, as it is not fair to blame the McCs for that and for the fact that we may have a disabled child.
I have to confess, to having my heart broken, by the cruel words and extreme language used, all these people saying that they stood for Madeleine and the poor mite would have run in fear of them, because they do not know how ugly and twisted, they appear, in real life.
Some, but not all, have accused the parents of the most vile and disgusting things, in killing accidentally and murdering their child and even when the leaks have been proved downright wrong, re the evidence, it has not stopped them, so they recycle and embellish and make stuff up.
Because the parents left the children,,unsupervised, they think that anything goes,in terms of accusing the parents.
I think that the Mccs have been wronged,by the leaks and by tabloid newspaper coverage and because,this seems to be part of a plan to discredit and pressure the parents and because, they have been gagged,is the main thing that motivates me, because it is so unjust.
I do recognise in myself, though, a certain restlessnes in scouring the news, in case there is word about Madeleine.A busy gran,I have , like so many, taken this child and family,to my heart.
I am one of the most uncatty people you could meet, or friends say so,but I have found certain people on the other side,to be ridiculous, in their views and single out 2345, as one example.
I am not proud of myself for taking an occasional pop,always from our blog, but maybe a bit of humour, cuts those I down to size and gives us perspective.
An anon came on.early one day, suggesting that people were suffering from OCD, at least and though I do not think I have a vacuum, in my life [no chance or time really,]I have never been so involved in someone else's business, who I do not know.
I do not think that I would have been,really, were it not for this blatant injustice.
I am also upset,that people will not wait and see and are swallowing tabloid leaks, fed by some in pj, even when reputable newspapers, like the Times,are telling us,that this is what, is happening.
Hey,I am rambling and the mop awaits.
Hope this makes sense.One finger typing definitely,affects the flow and my generation,were usually great spellers, but even that is affected.Mornng all.x

melbel said...

What I was trying to say,in my usual clack handed way, is that some people's emotions and anger about this case,[ consistently maintained rage, about people they do not know,in real life,]illustrates to me, that their emotion is way out of proportion to their personal involvement, in this case.
Therefore, I think it is inappropriate, over the top and people are presenting their own personal agendas,nothing to do with
the Mccanns[just my humble opinion,so listen to your granny ]
My English teacher, God rest her, would be displeased, at my long verbose paragraphs !
Just a newsflash on BBC re the PJ coming to question the friends or whoever.
That is what we need, less talk and some action and an urgent review.
There has been a news vacuum for too long, filled only by leaks and people's imaginations or inventions[some journalists probably included .
We are far from perfect, but would have an expectation of some regular press briefings, though I cannot speak for other countries.
Anyways, this particular bag of wind is off now, so regards to everyone.x

calcite51 said...

jojam - my deepest sympathies are with you and your family in the loss of your mom.

I think you may be right, some bloggers have lost sight of Madeleine and has made this a hate/revenge on the parents who at this point and time have NOT been charged with any criminal offense.

Others have pointed at Portugal's secrecy laws, the PJ's who have leaked information to tabloids, etc.

While the outcome of Madeleine's case is not known, I firmly believe there will be positive changes in how some European countries deal with missing children. And this can only benefit all missing children.

Sass said...

Helen

You'll have to aim for the 201st again! Sorry about that! I had to sit in on Master thesis defences for all the morning and part of the afternoon, so I knew I wouldn't get a chance.

It's not cricket, is it!

Sass said...

JoJam

I am SO sorry to hear about your mother.

x

helenm said...

Jojam, so sorry to hear about your mum. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family at this very sad time.

helenm said...

Chinadoll,

OR

Happy bloggers take care!!

Doubting Thomas said...

I have thought long and hard about this and as to if I should relate my personal experience of the point I wish to make. I have decided to as I cannot see the harm and it illustrates why I am concerned for the McCanns and their children, Sean and Amelie.
Afew years back, i discovered my husband was having an affair with the lady who lived two doors away.The aldy who I shall call sandra, had been very friendly with me, offering to walk my children to school, droppingby to see if I wanted her to get anything from the town etc. I never suspected a thing even when on two occasions I arrived home and found her and my husband sat there. With hindsight I now see they were uncomfortable when I appeared and she gave a vague reason for being there.
It was a Sunday morning that I found out, actually I didnt find out, sandra herself rang me, she asked to speak to my husband, he signaled he did not want to speak to her, so I said he was out. She went ballistic, called me a liar and said she had just seen him in the garden. Feeling stupid and a little perplexed at her cheek, I said Sandra he doesnt want to speak to anyone so you will have to leave a messsage or ring back.
She told me " tell him if he isnt in next time I ring I will tell you something that he wont woant you knowing"
Now I am quickly on the ball, that something isnt right, so I say "Listen Sandra, whatever it is you want to say, spit it out, you may aswell now you have dropped innuendo in here" She hung up!
My husband by now has in the words of polkem harem gone a whiter shade of pale!!
He implores me not tolisten to anything she may say, like any woman I am not having any of that as I smell a rat.
He then says she made a pass at me and i never told you, she must be going to tell you that.
I think sod this, and I knock her door, her husband answers, asks m ein and what I wantI tell him its Sandra who wants to tell me something. She starts crying hysterically and says.." Your husband raped me"
Her husband is going mental, but i think hang on a minute. so I say why are younot phoning the police instead of ringing him, I ask why she initially tried blackmailing him withher threat of telling me something if he doesnt take her call.her husband see's my point and he too says it sounds crap. I say I will go and get my husband and see who says what when they are together.
My husband and I return, and my husband says.." raped you? we been having an affair for weeks, here is texts you have sent me" Well all hell breaks out, I run down to my house and launch his stuff through open windows, I then lock the house and tell him to go.He is crying and begging so I say its over but you can still see the children when things are clamer.
Sandras husband comes and says he has thrown Sandra out, he tells me she is a closet alcoholic, she has attempted suicide in the past but they were cries for help and she was unstable.
My husband went to stay at my brothers, Sandra starts ringing me all hours, screaming abuse, tellin me myhusband was with me only for the children, I told her he is not with me, he went that day..she went hysterical, saying he used her I said " You got what you deserved, cominghere acting friends, he doesnt like women who drink, it was obviously just sex or he would be with you now" I hang u, but in those days the person who initiates the call can stay on the line even after you hang up, and when you go to use your phone they are still on line, you cannot telephone anyone else nor can you get them off. she held my phone for hours, so I went to her husband and said will he go and see her and warn her I will involve the police..He was not happy, and hurt, he tells me I should go with him and tell her. When we arrived she was drunk as a lord, she is abusive and sobing in the same breath. She replaced her phone and afetr her husband abused her, we both left. when I get in the phone starts again, she is screaming and bawling, threatening suicide if myhusband doesnt go and see her..Im not proud of this but afetr hanging up several times. I screamed "go and die you slut dont talk about it do it, I dont care either way"
I then put my phone off the receiver and leave her bellowing down it. I checked throughout the day but although it had gone quiet, the line was still connected, I could vaguely hear her t.v on.
I cannt phone out, the police station is far away, so I decide to leave it to he next day.No mobile in them days.
The long and short of it is, she took an overdose while online to my phone, she died, when the poice went there her phone is still connected to mine. I end up in custody, explaining how I was on line to her and it was she who had rung me not the other way around.
Th police said Imust have been angry and did I encourage her to overdose, I tell them what I had said in temper, and that she was always making attempts. I tell them her husband had told me and about the row he had with her infront of me prior to her call. He is gutted and in denail and denies he abused her infront of me and blames me!! i end up on bail pending investigations. This took months. The husband for whatever reason denied taking me there and arguing with her, he denied slagging her off to me.
Rumours of my involvement in her death begin to fly, the paper reports someone is on bail pending investigation in to inciting a suicide, angry friends of hers launch attacks upon my home.I have to leave for the safety of my children as petrol bombing of my garden began. It was hell.
At my trial I proved she had rung me several times, a freind of hers admitted being present to some of these calls. Her husband still denied his part in takingme there.Her history of suicide attempts came out, and then the startling evidence that a young boy..17 had been withher when she took the overdose, he went home but was supposed to go and " svae" her at a certain time, he went home and fell asleep!!
I was found not guilty, but the damage was done.
We lived in a smallish town, and the gossip continued, my children were abused in school by other children, They were outcasted and set upon. They would not be invited to parties and were aware whereever they went there was whispering. school began to suffer, i had to move from my home and fam,ily to protect the kids from it all. About a year ago someone who lived there moved to my present town, the rumours soon circulated and I am back to square 1, the local paper printed my story, although it set the record straight my childen still suffer at the whispering and abuse from children who know half stories and untruths.
This is my concern for the McCanns, although judicially they may be cleared and rightly so, there is the other consequence of these things,things that impact ohn the kids of those accus.#
My daughet cuts herself and has herself taken an overdose of paracetemol. there is a definate price to it all, I would rtather have been found guilty by the court, my kids pay a huge price. I hope this is not the scenario the McCanns face but I fear it might be.

Mum21 said...

Jojam,
I am very sorry to hear about your mother. My heart goes out to you.

Having said that...I do not agree with the rest of your post. In my opinion it is far better for us to joke and laugh between ourselves....than to constantly repeat old news and theories.
There is no news to debate on at the moment...so would you prefer we became like the other blogs....and made it up as we went along?
I think the McCann's have taken enough already...without us constantly rehashing old press news.
When there is news to debate on...then we will debate. Hopefully that will happen next week. But I won't hold my breath.

Rosiepops said...

Jojam

Please accept my sincere thoughts and condolences on the loss of you mum, she hasn't gone, she is all around, in everything you are and you do. I feel that strongly and it helps, I hope you feel it too.

About this blog, just wanted to say that if you look back to the first 150/200 posts yesterday you will see that in fact we are trying to do something to help.

Take care Rosie x

Mum21 said...

Thomas,
Many thanks for confiding your story to us.
I can understand exactly where you are coming from. A friend of mine went through a similar experience several years ago.
It is more than hard for the remaining family...especially the children.
This is one of the reasons I condem the way the anti's constantly ramble on about the McCann family. After all they can do nothing either way to solve this case...it is out of their hands. But what they can do...and are doing is spreading rumour on the internet....and the ones to suffer by this is the long run will be the McCann's remaining children....the twins.
It will not be the parents to blame for what they eventually are made to suffer.....but the likes of people who comment on Viv's blog. They will have a lot to answer for in the twins life.

helenm said...

Doubting Thomas, thankyou for sharing your experience, it couldn't have been easy. One of the reasons I started to comment on the HYS on the DX was because I have a deep sense of justice, and justice IMO was not what the Mccann's were being offeed by the media. Particularly not by the posters who were obviously 'anti' Mccann.

It is beyond belief that so called 'anti's' can have so much hatred for parents, who have not been charged with an offence, and indeed DO NOT KNOW the facts of the case, but are willing to listen to wicked innuendos and conspiracy theories.

They say it takes all sorts to make a world, well I say I want no part of THEIR world, their bitterness will overwhelm them in the end.

Rosiepops said...

Thomas,

My goodness you have sure been through enough, too much in fact and are living testament as to how gossip can ruin lives whether it is true or completely untrue, as in your case.
Where was your husband in all of this? I hope he was around to support you, even if your relationship had finished, he should have been seeing as he was a large part of why it happened. I can't see why you should have been taken to court for inciting suicide, sounds a ridiculous charge to me and I am glad that you were found not guilty or the case was dismissed, none of this was your fault, you were not this persons psychiatric worker, sounds to me there were a lot of people that were at fault here but not you or your children.
What you said to that woman I suspect most of us would say when we were in severe mental trauma like this, her husband is in denial and he will have to live with his lies and so will your ex. The true innocents here are of course yet again the children.
I hope things settle down where you are now, why people continue to blame you is a bit of a mystery, it doesn't seem like your fault that your husband had an affair with your friend and then she decided to get drunk and play some suicide game that backfired, how can you be expected to know? If I were you I would be tempted to bring a counter action and sue someone for yours and children's pain and suffering. I hope things settle down where you live now, I am sure they will, just stay firm and resolute, people are not silly most logical and reasonable people will see all this for what it is.

Your point about children suffering because of all the gossip and innuendo is such a strong point and once I have pointed to many times. My fear that all this continued gossip and unfounded speculation and gossip will hound these children throughout their lives. They are the ones that will have to live in the shadow of this too.
Many times I have pointed out to these venomous imbeciles when they make their crazy accusations about spinal fluid etc, that at some point in their lives the McCann twins will be able to access all this and God alone knows what harm it can do. This is why I am here almost daily to put the other side this is why I will continue to do this, so when they go looking they will find that not everyone pointed the false finger of suspicion at their parents.

In life there has to be a balance.

I hope you manage to get passed your problems, it takes a brave person to have gone through what you have and remember "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger."

helenm said...

An article re the re-interviewing of the Tapas 3,4,5,6,7,

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/itn/20080331/tuk-mccann-friends-to-be-quizzed-by-poli-dba1618.html

Jojam said...

Thank you all for your kind words,

Calcite51,

Yes it is hoped that some good may come if positive changes come in all European countries to improve how they react when children are missing.

Mum21,Rosie,

A period of reflection can help to clarify things.......

IMO the poll on the side of the front page a sign that this
blog is in danger of becoming like the others. I find that really sad...........

I do hope that there will be some clear direction after the interviews next week.........

Sass said...

Doubting_Thomas

I don't know what to see about your situation - words seem so inadequate!!!

As far as the McCanns are concerned, I have always said the same as you too. There will always be people who will say there is no smoke without fire. Can you honestly imagine some of the people on the other 2 blogs believing the mccanns are innocent even if the police say they are? I certainly can't.

To be fair, if the Portuguese investigators found the mccanns guilty, I don't know if I would believe them as I have lost all confidence in them.

helenm said...

The poster ANA (alias Alsabella) on the other blog has posted regarding this story that follows. However, she has used the Joanna Morais (?spelling) site and her interpretation of it and posted it as what was actually published. She ended her post with

they call this free speech? or words similar.

To all the posters on TWS who waxed lyrical on how wonderful the post was, here is the article posted from yahoo news.

The officers plan to sit in when Leicestershire Police quiz the seven friends who were on holiday with Kate and Gerry McCann when their four-year-old daughter disappeared from the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz on May 3, 2007.

Mr and Mrs McCann, both 39, remain arguidos or formal suspects in the case, but will not be interviewed by the officers who arrive on April 7.

A spokeswoman for the British force said: "Leicestershire Constabulary will be co-ordinating the execution of the request for mutual legal assistance made by the Portuguese authorities.

"The Portuguese authorities have asked that the contents of the request and the way it is being executed be kept confidential so as not to prejudice their ongoing investigation."

The McCanns' family spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, said: "Kate and Gerry and their friends have long expected this visit by Portuguese police officers and it comes as no surprise that some reports in the Portuguese papers in the last few days have been speculating about the arrival date."

He added: "I am not in a position to confirm any dates or give any details about the re-interviewing of the friends and all matters will have to go to Leicestershire police.

"However, Kate and Gerry and their friends welcome the police interviews. The friends are more than happy to co-operate fully, as are Kate and Gerry, although in this case Kate and Gerry will not be interviewed.

"This has not been requested but Kate and Gerry would have agreed to answer any questions had the police wished to put anything to them.

"There were some reports from Portugal last week that police were not going to question Kate and Gerry because they thought they would not co-operate. This is utterly ridiculous and completely baseless.

"Kate and Gerry and their friends see this as an important chance to help the police.

"We hope that the police will realise there is no evidence to link Kate and Gerry with Madeleine's disappearance in any way and that they will be rapidly eliminated from the inquiry and the arguido status, which was imposed too hastily as the head of the Portuguese police admitted, will be lifted as soon as possible."

Rosiepops said...

Hi Sass,

"If the Portuguese investigators found the Mccann's guilty?"

I was under the impression they already had!

However, to get them officially found guilty they would have to charge them first and I understand they are having a little difficulty finding any evidence!

Rosiepops said...

Helen

We do not have the same secrecy laws here and once again it appears to me that the PJ are having their bloody cake and eating it!

Obviously last week they have been leaking on this story, it seems OK for the PJ to say and leak what they want while enforcing a ban on what information is in the public domain and in effect tightening the gag of Kate and Gerry.

What are the PJ so scared of? Perhaps they are scared that the Leicestershire police will reveal exactly what they have, which is nothing!

melbel said...

Helen,Rosie and sass
Thank you for informing us of the correct information, Helen re the link.
There has been too much ill informed and inaccurate comment,about this case.

Dont Let Them Hurt Our Children said...

I am the mother, of two little girls 4 & 7 the Abduction of Madeleine has Truly Affected our Family. Since Madeleine was Taken, Awareness of Similar Stranger Abductions have been Highlighted, all Thank's to Madeleine's Campaign. There is Now a lot More Awareness of these Tragedy's. Code Madeleine was set up, to Help Others that Could one day Find Themselves in a Similar Situation. Kate & Gerry Continue to be Critized, for Not Crumbelling in front of Those that Still Cant see the Bigger Picture. Madeleine's Campaign is Not Only Trying to Highlight the Abduction of Madeleine. It is Changing Laws, Helping other Families and Trying to Make a stand by Saying Dont You Forget About Me. In these Sad times, Hope and Prayer's are Always Needed. Please Pray for the Safe Return of Madeleine and all Our Missing Children.

melbel said...

Hello there
Are you affiliated to the main Madeleine website ?I can well understand, how,with young children,of similiar ages.it will have devestating effects.
Anything, to raise awareness, is good.

Sass said...

Melbel and DLTHOC

I was going to ask the same question as Melbel. Do you know the McCanns? On your blog you said "Kate and I" are sad about Mari Luz's death - thought you may be friends.

Welcome to our blog, anyway!

Dont Let Them Hurt Our Children said...

No I am simply a mother who has linked up with other websites who are trying to Raise the Awareness of Madeleine's Abduction and Other Missing children.
I also have a channel/group on youtube,the links are on my blogs.
Please have a look at the video - Madeleine Wer'e Still Looking for You .. A friend of mine wrote and composed this song for Madeleine's Forthcoming Birthday.

Sass said...

Hi again DLTHOC

Saw the video - very well done!

Dont Let Them Hurt Our Children said...

I know Someone that knows Someone if you get my drift - I pasted that from Gerry's Blog as I do on most of My Video's, I will amend it Thanks..

Sass said...

Rosie

True enough - I meant if the McCanns were found to be guilty in a law of court!

Sass said...

Rosie

True enough - I meant if the McCanns were found to be guilty in a court of law!

Rosiepops said...

Sass

I know what you meant! You can't ask me to pass up an opportunity like that! Come on you know how much I love the PJ! (not)

Rosiepops said...

DLTHOC

Welcome to our blog, we too are just embarking on something in order to raise awareness of how badly Kate and Gerry are being treated.
We believe they should be released from this arguido status so they can concentrate fully on looking for their daughter, they should not have to be worried and bothered by all this totally unnecessary rubbish in the papers and on other blogs.

I have come across you before and will take a look at your site.

Great to hear from you

Sass said...

Rosie

I've seen your messages to them e.g.

"Gonc - love ya loads"

Dont Let Them Hurt Our Children said...

Thank you, it is Refreshing to Find a site that Actually Cares about Madeleine and her Family.
There are Too Many small minded, Negative & Nasty people out there that Cant or Wont see the Bigger Picture.

Viqu said...

Having been in Portugal with my son and husband,at the same time Madeline was taken,affects us all badly.My son asks all the time if she is home yet.
I met Kate,who was just a shell of a person,totally lost and unable to react.I did I burst into tears and gave her a hug.It was the only thing I could do.I dont know if it did anything for her.I told her she had my total support and have thought of her and the rest of the family every day since then.

Hi,I am new.

Rosiepops said...

Hi Viqu

and welcome to our blog, here you will find nothing but support for the McCann's and it is really great to have some more like minded people coming aboard.

I am so glad you told us what you have, I feel that messages from people like you are not being heard. I would not know how to react to Kate either, especially at that tie but would have to let her know she has my love and support. As a mother and a grandmother and a woman, I would like to tell her that she will always have my love and support and to hang on, keep believing and her and Gerry and all the family will see Madeleine returned.

Personally I think this couple are remarkable and dignified in the face of such terrible pain, suffering and adversity and they have my respect.

Rosiepops said...

DLTHOC

Have just watched the video and visited your blog. Well done keep it up.

I think we have to have another massive push to make people aware that Madeleine is still out there and her parents are real people, in real pain, this is not a soap opera.

We need to try and do something constructive to help Kate and Gerry.

This past few days I have been surprised at the strength of feeling there is for Kate and Gerry, if you believed the papers and the evil rantings of some on some other blogs of hate, you would think there was little sympathy for them, but there isn't, there is a lot.

I was wondering if we could organise a march or something more appropriate say an all night vigil with candles and proper banners addressed to the PJ to put pressure on them to stop treating these people so inhumanely.

I was touched by your video and not ashamed to say it I sat there with tears running down my cheeks, this child is out there somewhere and someone knows where she is and they MUST return her.

I have never seen anything like this in my lifetime and we have to stop people hurting our children and we also have to stop the appalling injustice against Kate and Gerry McCann.

Madeleine so beautiful, so innocent, yet has profoundly brought to the world's attention the plight of all missing and abused children.

Mandz said...

Evening All… at last I got on !

Jojam sorry to hear about your mother.

Doubting Thomas,
Sorry to hear about that it must have been living hell and hope things are ok now. Very good points relating to McCann’s also.
This case most defiantly has affected me. Having children myself it is the most tragic debilitating situation to be in and my heart goes out to any parent/grandparent, aunts/uncles brothers sister cousins in that nightmare of a situation.
I think the little girl who was taken from her bath was really frightening along with other cases like Jamie Bulgar. It is every parent’s worst nightmare however I don’t think you can go about saying well the chances of this happening according to statistics etc therefore no need to concern yourself too much. The thing is this can happen and has happened therefore as a parent I feel I need to take note/be made aware that this can happen here and also abroad. I realise that you cannot protect children 100% but every Country has a duty to inform us and to make us “aware” rather than sweeping this under the carpet and pretending this did not happen to protect the tourist money. We saw this on TV when the McCann family were trying to put up pictures of Maddie at the airport and were pushed out.
Until such Countries admit this then I will not be going anywhere near those Countries who are allowing the real CRIMINAL/Z MONSTERS to get away with a CHILD. Let’s face it the appalling treatment of the McCann’s could quite easily be anyone of us therefore we must stick together and show them we will not stand for this.

Mandz said...

Hi Viqu!

Yes I would imagine this would hit hard and tug at the heart strings. Poor Maddie it truly is horrifying to think that this could happen to your child – taken from her bed. I pray she will be found soon.

Mandz said...

Hi Don't let them hurt our children! Good posts!

Mandz said...

Hi Melbel!

Think I'm here alone however no worries!!!

I agree people are angry. I am angry at the way this CHILD has been let down and her parents...

As I've said before words cannot describe how I feel...

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi Viqu

Welcome to our Blog and thanks for sharing your experience with us.

I am sure your hug meant so much to Kate. Whenever I see Kate, I just want to reach out and let her know we are here and we believe in their innocence.

I hope the hastily applied Arguido status will be lifted asap and they will be allowed to focus on searching for their beautiful daughter and we will be here supporting them every step of the way.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Evening All :0)

Welcome to DNLTHOC.

Viqu said...

Thanks.I will be back.

Tinkerbell43 said...

No-one here ? ok I'll put the kettle on then!

Mandz said...

Tinks!

Where is everyone...?

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hey Mandz,

So it finally looks as if the face saving exercise wil commence on the 8th, (arriving on the 7th).

YES, AT LAST!!!! Those stupid Anti's think we dont want them to come, I cant wait, wish it had been 6 months earlier, then the McCanns wouldn't have had to endure this horrendous smear campaign, they could have focused fully on finding their little girl, who is still out there somewhere!.

chinadoll said...

Hi Everyone,

Hope you are all well.

As for todays headline, what can I say. I have never even followed a blog, let alone commented on one, prior to joining the DX blog. Some of the wild conspiracies and absolute cruel and nasty comments I witnessed in that forum, gave me the impetus to put my big toe in the water and join the affray, with one, single objective. To speak up for this family and attempt to dispel some of the nasty rumour and innuendo that was allowed to be posted on the DX forum.
Quite rightly, that particular group of newpapers, has paid the ultimate price for their irresponsible non factual reporting and most importantly, have made multiple front page apologies for same.

Tinkerbell43 said...

It feels like I'm having a game of hide n seek! Come out, come out where ever you are, lol.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hey China,

I put my big toe in and then found myself flapping about in the deep end. lol.

I had been reading for a while and then one night, I read something (cant remember what now) but it made me so angry and I thought I cant sit back and witness this any longer, thats when Tinkerbell learnt to swim, got dunked a few times along the way mind, lol.

chinadoll said...

At long last, the pj are reportedly on their way.

The tapas group have done everything possible to assist this investigation - travelling to Portugal, in some instances, on more than one occasion. They have answered all questions, yet, despite same, the pj and Portuguese media, continue to insinuate that they have something to hide. They have repeatedly stated that they will assist in anyway possible, yet have been ridiculed in some quarters for doing so.

I feel sure, that K & G and their holiday companions, welcome the pending visit and I sincerely hope that thereafter, the McCanns are iterviewed, to tie up any misunderstandings the pj may have in relation to what happened that night and finally, finally, finally, they release the McCanns from the arguido status/gagging order they were wrongly placed under in the first place.

Bring it on.

chinadoll said...

And you learnt to swim with your armbands Tinks, lol lol lol

It does not matter how many times people try to dunk our heads in the water, we will just keep popping up, like Champagne corks lol

Truth and goodness will always prevail.

Dont Let Them Hurt Our Children said...

Hey rosiepops - You made some very good points !
and before I start to Ramble, I just want to say how heartwarming it is on here. Sadly I have had to Disable the comments from My channel on youtube as having to approve every comment was really getting to me. I would like to give an example of how Disgusting and Hurtful some of these Loons really are but Hey ... Madeleine is what is Important.

I will Try Anything to Help Bring Madeleine Home, just let me know what I can do. I have 56 video's on my channel, and you are welcome to use any of them , I still get emails from people asking me about Madeleine, it seems unreal but there are Still people out there that Don't know about Madeleine's Abduction. There are a lot more that Do, Yet They Cant see, how this Campaign is helping to not only Raise the Awareness of Other Missing children but is Highlighting this Disgusting business of Child Explotation .... .

I just wanted to mention that I am a Travel Agent, and I have been to Portugal before I had My young family. I found it a lovely friendly place just like the Mccann's did .. and I wont be Booking Anyone to Portugal until Madeleine is Returned Safely to her Parents.

Janet

Tinkerbell43 said...

China,

Your post shows just how bad a press the Tapas have received. It is constantly overlooked just how much they have assisted or were willing to assist, the investigation. They have also, imo, acted with dignity and respected the secrecy law, which I believe they were asked to do by the PJ.

chinadoll said...

And despite the unjust battle with they are fighting with the pj and everything else they have on their plate, Kate & Gerry, make time to involve themselves in the plight of others, as demonstrated by their efforts, in the upcoming documentary.

..............................
Press Association

TV show marks Madeleine anniversary
4 days ago

The parents of Madeleine McCann are taking part in an ITV documentary to mark the first anniversary of their daughter's disappearance.

Cameras have been following Kate and Gerry McCann since January for the programme, which will feature extended contributions from the couple.

The one-hour ITV1 special follows Madeleine's parents as they launch a campaign to introduce a US-style Amber Alert system in Europe when a child goes missing.

The couple have already been filmed at their home in Rothley, Leicestershire, and travelling to Washington in the US to pursue their campaign. Cameras will also be with the pair when they intend to highlight the issue in Brussels.

The alert system would see law enforcement agencies empowered to commandeer airtime on TV and radio when a child goes missing.

ITV said the McCanns hope a European-wide scheme would help other families in similar circumstances.

In the documentary, the McCanns also talk about Madeleine, the night the four-year-old went missing, becoming "Arguido" suspects in Portugal and the decision to return to Britain.

A statement from the broadcaster said: "ITV has commissioned Mentorn Media to make a documentary marking the first anniversary of Madeleine McCann's disappearance and focusing on the campaign to prevent others going through a similar ordeal."

It said no payment has been made to Madeleine's parents for making the programme and the broadcaster will instead donate £10,000 to the Find Madeleine Fund.

Madeleine went missing from her family's holiday apartment at the Ocean Club, in Praia da Luz, Portugal, on May 3.

chinadoll said...

Absolutely Tinks,

Certain quarters of the media, seem to think that the tapas group are acceptable cannon fodder and the leaks from Portugal, have enabled this.

archer said...

Good Evening Everyone

I hope you are all well.

Hi to JOJAM, my sincere condolences for the loss of your mother.

DLTHOC - you will see that we are a sincere group of people terribly concerned for Madeleine and her family.

Viqu - you have suffered an awful experience, and I very much hope that you were able to draw strength from friends and family. Just to know that other's are there rooting for you can make all the difference.

It is my hope that Kate and Gerry can take comfort from this too.


I noticed that the DE report today re the re-interviewing of the 'Tapas' group has been removed from the site! If it was factual reporting I can't think why! They didn't have to have HYS on it.

Oh well, hurry up and come I say. The sooner the better.

maya said...

Just wanted to say thank you for the support your comments show for Kate and Gerry. I am Madeleine's Grandmother. I have been destroyed recently by comments I have seen on some blogs /forums. I began to feel that the world was full of vicious and sick people rejoicing in hurting Kate and Gerry who are hurting so much anyway. People who didn't care about Madeleine at all.
I have always believed that the world was full of basically decent caring people. Thanks to reading your comments I think I was right. Evil people who take children and destroy families and those who delight in such, are not the majority. You are the majority, thank God.I can face tomorrow feeling stronger for your comments. Kate and Gerry and the family will spend the rest of our lives working to improve legislation etc for missing and abducted children and supporting their families. Please God Madeleine is returned to us and we can heal her with our love.
Thank You so much x

chinadoll said...

Trying to catch up from the beginning of todays post.

Helen - I'll tell you later, but loved your suggestions, same with Janegt.

Melbel, another - amongst many, poignant post.

Jojam,

My condolences.

Your must be feeling raw at the moment, but remember, when reading back on comments, that we are attempting to maintain a presence here, even when there is no news and sometimes, with no disrespect to Madeleine, her family or any other missing child, sometimes, there is no news to comment on, so we engage in light hearted banter.

We also have to defend ourselves from some nasty (deleted) posters, which you have obviously missed
We are here nethertheless, for eachother, but, ultimately, for Madeleine and her family

Tinkerbell43 said...

And China, they have been criticised for doing this. Unbelievable!

Europe needs this system, Jeremi Vargas, Sara Morales, Madeleine Mccann, are just 3 reasons why.

I admire them and wish them every success with their campaign.

chinadoll said...

Doubting Thomas,

I do not think I have conversed with you - much, if any.

Your experience is truly shocking and thank you for sharing it with us. I pray you continue to have the strength to move forward in a positive manner and are not influenced further by an incident in your past, which you had no control over.

JANEGT said...

GOODEVENING EVERYBODY

Nice to see so many new posters on today. Been eading all comments, but busy so not on long.

I love the new photo collage arrangement on today's front pages. Thank you to whoever did this for us. Lovely.

Hope you are all well. I see a poster saying the DE pulled the visit by PJ along with Leicestershire police. It is in today's Leicestershire paper and I forwarded it to the mods if anyone wants to read it. Very short. But yes they are arriving 7 April.

As CHINADOLL says, bring it on. Now let's at long, long last move this forwards and not backwards.

melbel said...

Evening everyone
Welcome to Maya, Vinu and all new posters.It is my firm belief, that the majority of people, in the UK and worldwide,support Kate and Gerry.
It will hopefully not be long now, before they are released from arguido status, so that they can concentrate fulltime, in the search for their beloved child.x

chinadoll said...

Don't let them hurt our children

Welcome.

Just going to have a nosey around on your blog.

JANEGT said...

MELBEL


not a grandmother
y e t ?????

oh......

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi Jane & Melbel,

Nice to see you both :-)

Mum21 said...

Good Evening Ladies.
Great news. I welcome the pending visit next week with open arms.
Let the interviews commence. The sooner the better.

melbel said...

Hi Jane
No news,as yet,but we are on standby.
Husband has gone to his pub quiz, but will drink nothing,in case we need to drive over.
My eyesight, has gone, for driving, but I am the meddling front seat passenger !
Hope your car is fully mobile now. A lovely Spring [ish ] day here.
Got my free bus pass today, so might bus up, to see you [kidding ].x

chinadoll said...

Doubting Thomas,

Have just read some recent emails that have confirmed that you are one and the same as Arepa.

I truly hope you seek medical assistance and support, at your earliest opportunity.

Keep well, for your familys' sake.

JANEGT said...

Arepa was stupid enough to leave her 'mantra' at top of her ridiculous post

I POINTED TO THE STARTS AND ALL YOU SAW WAS MY FINGER.


Acreepa as I told you before daaahling

I pointed to the door and all you saw were your feet

firmly in your mouth...again.

do you lot think we are idiots? no. but you lot are.

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

now POST OFF YOU LOT.

don't play us for the fools you clearly are.!!!!

chinadoll said...

D L T H O C,

What a lovely blog you have and so much attention to detail therein.

The song/poem, is beautiful and I commend you on your efforts.

How did you find us? Just out of interest.

melbel said...

The interviews,could not be more than tying up ends and signing off the case, because it has been said, at the Portugese end, that there is no evidence.
This was reported in my Guardian and though the DE group, have printed recycled rubbish, I trust the quality newspapers, as they are sourced and substantiated.

chinadoll said...

Hi there Mum21, Melbel and Janegt,

I am delighted that the pj have finally got around to coming here, on the eve of the first year anniversary, of Madeleines abduction.

Better late than never.

archer said...

Jane

How Bout That Cheers. x

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi Mum & Archer :-)

chinadoll said...

Maya,

Good Evening.

Sorry that I and others have been skirting around your post, but I do so hope that you appreciate that we have many persons visit this site with one objective - to cause havoc.

I have no intention of offending you when I say that I that most of us are probably looking at your post with a sceptical disbelief.

Our hearts, thoughts and efforts, continue to be with Kate & Gerry McCann, their family, friends and loved ones.

JANEGT said...

thanks for emails, see the feedjit map is really red in the EEC ... whilst still in it that is.

ha ha ha ha ha

who is stupid now?

JANEGT said...
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melbel said...

Hiya China,Mum and Tinks
Yes, they need to crack on, now and end this ridiculous vacuum, with them leaking freely, but the parents being gagged.
It is not a level playing field and it has not served justice or the search for this dear child.
my memory is blurred, as to last week, so what were they hoping to achieve, with this time gap?
They have said that they have no evidence and it looks as if, the Judge has given no authority, to re interview the parents.

Mum21 said...

Ladies,
We seem to be flying even more Portuguese flags today than usual.
Do they find us that interesting?

archer said...

Hi Tinks

How Bout That Crackpot? x


Funny old day, innit?

melbel said...

Unfair that TWS are trotting out, that the McC's lawyers, say that they will not cooperate.
What a pile of pants and how could this be credible ?

JANEGT said...

TINKEBELL

who put up these lovely new pictures? I had not seen some of them before at all. They are lovely.

Mum21 said...

Although I look forward to the coming interviews next week...I doubt we will hear the outcome.
I read the Leicestershire police have had to agree to the Portuguese secrecy laws.
So it looks like they will fly in....and fly out again....and we will be none the wiser.

chinadoll said...

I really cannot ever, remember so many new posters in one day, let alone so many with personal knowledge of/connections with this family.

Well I for one am just going to be my usual self and continue, as normal with my views and opinions. I will only ever be influenced by real people - which Kate and Gerry and family are and as for the rest of the dreamers, I would like to say,

Get a life

melbel said...

Hi Mum
This blog seems to be monitored 24/7, by the parallel universe and they know what we have said, before we say it.
Make a cup of tea and it is round the world wide web and they think a plan of action, is being formulated.
One of them, might have been 2345, was on about grans, supplementing pensions, or even doing it free ie being on the team. !Unbelievable.

JANEGT said...

GOOD EVENING MUM21

I trust you are well tonight...??

We seem to have new posters, despite not being openly listed on google. Amazing they all come from that area you mentioned....ha ha ha


One was so silly they left their own name and mantra at top of post as somone else with a ridiculous sob story.

Chinadoll is right, they should seek immediate and very urgent help. If anyone listens to them, as crying wolf once too often...well we know exactly what happens then.

I shall shed tears.....NOT!!!

THEY ARE SO OBVIOUS.....

Mum21 said...

China, I tend to agree with you.
If that post from Maya was not ligit...then whoever it was needs locking up.

Rosiepops said...

Hi everyone

how are you anything new?

melbel said...

China. You are always spot on.
I had my doubts about the poster, who came out, today, from a very early stage.

chinadoll said...

HELLO EVERYONE,

SORRY TO DO A JANEGT, WITH THE OLD CAPS ON, BUT HAS ANYONE CRACKED THE CODE CONTAINED IN THE SECOND POST I MADE AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE?

Mum21 said...

Melbel...we have to make allowances for their childish minds. It seems they have nothing better to do than poke fun...or worse...at us.
If it keeps them happy and off the streets...who are we to worry. :-)

JANEGT said...

MAYA =

make ars*s ya all

SOUNDS SIMILAR TO THE kind of ''''PERSON'''' BEING MORE LIKE -THAT WOULD WELCOME AND 'ENJOY' THE OPEN LETTER TO MRS HEALY.

They really do think we are as stupid as they are......

chinadoll said...

Yes Rosiepops,

I am changing the current subject away from certain attention seekers and asking everyone if they have any comment to make on my coded message (second post at the top of the page)

Dont Let Them Hurt Our Children said...

Chinadoll,
I have been Promoting My blog in Every way possible to Help Raise the Awareness of this Tragedy.
Your site came in with one of my feeds and I have since added your Link to My blog Under Recommended Sites.
keep up the Good Work !

dianeh said...
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JANEGT said...

CHINADOLL

haa haa

DID you mean your post re HBTC???

Horrid Bloggers' Torture Chamber

coz

we need it now. I did reply this morning or so on it. So did some others too. What is it really???? I am stumped.

Mum21 said...

Jane...yeah, all the A's

archer said...

China

It's so sick that they are getting their 'jollies' this way.

I don't mind admitting that I am the first to fall for their shennanigans. If I feel that someone is hurting I automatically try to reach out. I am not going to change for fear that I don't reach out when it is really needed.

Sorry - I'm a mug. :¬(

Rosiepops said...

Maya,

I am sorry but I do not believe that Madeleine's grandmother would come onto this site and post under another name and then calmly tell us that she is Madeleine's grandmother.

I also find the name intriguing with the use of letter A twice in one short name.

I'll leave it there.

chinadoll said...

D L T H O C,

I have been reading back and note that you had to turn off the comments on your blog, due to undesireables. Please bear in mind why you had to do so, when reading this blog, as we, too, get invaded by undesireables from time to time and need to take evasive action.

Once again, Welcome.

melbel said...

Well, there are some horrific people around, if someone could come on and say such things. I am a greenhorn, but I did not fall for Thomas, tg.

JANEGT said...

ARCHER

We all were, up to a point but the venomous, sustained, foul abuse, we received sorted me out. I am glad. I used to think like you, but when the poster had Arepa at the top. a long silly sob story, and doubting Thomas at end, she did well to not only change 'sides' bUt SEX AS WELL.

HA HA SO GLARINGLY OBVIOUS!!!

they call us fools too. that's the rich bit. ha ha ha ha they are sooo stupid.

chinadoll said...

Archer,

Never change dah....ling,

that is what we all have in common.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hey Archer,

You are certainly no mug. You are a caring, compassionate person along with all of our loyal & regular posters.

chinadoll said...

Hi Rosiepops,

Been walking the dog? lol

melbel said...

Husband been taking computer ?

chinadoll said...

Melbel,

It is truly shocking - just how low some people can stoop.

chinadoll said...

Where is our Helen?

No doubt she will appear when we get closer to the number 200 lol

Rosiepops said...

Archer,

well reaching out to someone that appears to be in pain is not a bad trait is it? I just find it amazing that people will go to such twisted lengths and why choose an innocent child and her parents?

Tinkerbell43 said...

I'm off now all, enjoy the rest of the debate & I look forward to seeing you all tomorrow. Over and out xxx

Jane, the photo's are beautiful aren't they. The credit will either be to Rosie or Sass, I just make up the numbers, lol.

Nite xx

archer said...

Ladies

Goodnight and guard the fort well!!

Speak soon xx

Rosiepops said...

china

She is here curled up beside me leaning on my arm making it hard to use the keyboard.

JANEGT said...

ARCHER

GOOD NIGHT


and do not go via the garage now.


;o)))

see you soon.

archer said...

Jane

:¬(((

Bye

melbel said...

Wouldn't people rather be warm and openhearted people ?
The world would not go round, otherwise.
I never realised that there were such sick and attention seeking people, on the internet and have found it mind boggling.

JANEGT said...

tinks

good night

see you soon

Rosiepops said...

Tinks and Archer goodnight sleep well take care xxx

The photos are sass's work beautiful aren't they?

chinadoll said...

Pleased to hear that Rosiepops.

I was about to send out the posse to find you lol

No one has cracked my coded post yet duh

melbel said...

Nite,Tinks and Archer.x

chinadoll said...

Goodnight Tinks and Archer,

Sleep tight in the knowledge that your heart is in the right place.

Godbless

JANEGT said...
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JANEGT said...
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JANEGT said...

CHINADOLL

hello bye to clara?????

if not

horrid bloggers' torture chamber????

melbel said...
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melbel said...

See that DE did an article,earlier on the PJ coming, but pulled it straightaway.
What are they playing at and why keep dipping the toe in, like that ?

melbel said...

Please could you put a new light bulb in, as it is getting like the DE,very slow [ on my computer,anyway ]?

chinadoll said...

Sassy you darling,

Thanks for the new photos and thank you so much for getting this blog together - with the help of your team.

Oops, Team Sassy and.........

JANEGT said...

MELBEL

they are running scared after all the nonense in HYS.

can't blame them really.

The local Leicestershire Mercury carries the story, they arrive 7 April.

chinadoll said...

Off for ten,

got the munchies.

maya said...

Dear All
I seem to have caused some doubt as to my identity. I truly am Susan Healy my cat is called Maya which is why I posted under this name. I am not familiar with using blogs but google alert e mailed your site and on reading your comments I felt I would respond.I was comforted by your comments and wished to thank you.
As you are obviously aware family comments can be misquoted, I therefore deliberated prior to responding publicly.
Please continue as if I had not posted, I just wanted to thank you.

maya said...

Dear All
I seem to have caused some doubt as to my identity. I truly am Susan Healy my cat is called Maya which is why I posted under this name. I am not familiar with using blogs but google alert e mailed your site and on reading your comments I felt I would respond.I was comforted by your comments and wished to thank you.
As you are obviously aware family comments can be misquoted, I therefore deliberated prior to responding publicly.
Please continue as if I had not posted, I just wanted to thank you.

JANEGT said...

GOOD NIGHT EVERYBODY

got to go now. sweet dreams and see you soon I trust. At least now things are moving forwards for a change. About time, as in 4 days we enter the 12th month beginning.....no rush then???!!!

Disgraceful.

JANEGT said...

GOOD NIGHT EVERYBODY

got to go now. sweet dreams and see you soon I trust. At least now things are moving forwards for a change. About time, as in 4 days we enter the 12th month beginning.....no rush then???!!!

Disgraceful.

melbel said...

Night, Jane and don't forget to make me up a bed, for when I use my bus pass.
Oh, shucks,it only covers,England.
I will go down to Mum, instead[weak joke]
Sleep well,my friend x

chinadoll said...

Maya,

You and your cat need to get a life.

After the trauma your children and family have been through, every poosible liason officer would have advised you to avoid the bowels of the internet and under no circumstances, visit blogs.

You are no more related to Kate and Gerry McCann, than I am related to the man in the moon.

Please go to bed now and sleep it off

Mum21 said...

Melbel. Do I detect I am going to have a visitor? te he he.
Well that won't be anything new for me because I already have a friend that arrives via her bus pass.

melbel said...

China
The Feejit map,reminds me a bit of Dad's Army, the introduction, where the Brits, are trying to repel the invaders.
It looks as if the whole of Portugal are looking in .

Rosiepops said...

Maya

As I am sure you understand we would not tolerate someone doing this and I think you would undertsand why.

Could you tell us the date of the twins birthdays (immediately? with no time to Google?

chinadoll said...

Melbel,

No problem,

I've got my tin hat on lol

melbel said...

Hi Mum
Looks like a lovely spot, for sure.I missed you, when you stopped posting for a while,on DE, though I was just a reader, then. I always think that you are so sensible and take my hat off, to you.

chinadoll said...

Maya,

I implore you to seek medical assistance.

You are welcome back, when you are truly better.

Rosiepops said...

As we thought then Maya.

really this is taking things too far, go home and take your medication.

Sass said...

Hello Everyone

Just on for a minute or two. Fell asleep and woke up just now. Going back to sleep, but will be back tomorrow.

See we had an influx of newbies.

To the newbies - we are a friendly bunch, but we have had so many trolls here trying to wreck this blog, that we are wary - we have to be. Sorry, if any genuine poster has been put off!

dianeh said...

Hi Everyone

I am for throwing cynicism out and welcoming the new posters. If any of them turn out to be fakes, they are disgracing themselves, not us. I for one am pleased to have a caring nature and dont wish hurt on any genuine poster, just in case we might look foolish to the others on the ratbag blogs.

So to Thomas, Viqu, Many letters with own blog and Maya. Welcome from me to you.

Maya, if you are indeed who you say you are, then I would warn you not to ever mention it again on this blog or any other. You will become the target of many people. I would also warn you that while we do support the whole McCann family, we do discuss things on here that would be obviously upsetting to any family member or close friend.

By the way, I deleted my last post because it was to the wrong person. Jojam, my condolences on the loss of your mother.

melbel said...

Nite Sass and sleep tight.x x x

Mum21 said...

Looking at the map I get the impression half of Portugal are marching into the UK with the PJ.
Good job the weather has improved over here. Just right for an early vacation.

melbel said...

Hi Diane
Better to love and lose, than never love at all.

JANEGT said...

diane

no they are bar one, not at all genuine.

arepa is doubting thomas. no doubts at all. you will see if you read back all posts. We have been targetted, infiltrated bit time today apart from one poster Janet.

No doubts.

chinadoll said...

Cheers Diane,

Well, I, for one, am out of here, as I do not share your optimism.

No way am I going to allow some cyber nut cases to turn this blog into a joke.

chinadoll said...

So, I'll just bow out now, as this is turning into a joke/comedy.

Mum21 said...

Melbel, I don't think alsa and Clawdia would agree with you. They did not like me at all on the DE forum.
As you know I left for a good couple of months. The constant libellous attacks on the McCann's, plus constantly being called a child neglect supporter (which I am not) just got on my nerves. So I decided to take a long break from it.
It is much better on here though amongst friends.

melbel said...

Looked at Vile's new article[ the vile, who has not a bad bone in her body, according to Bianca.]
They are still libelling away and say that it is all down to forensics, re them being made arguidos.
It may have been, at the time,but even the inventor,Jeffers, of this particular forensic profiling, I understand, has offered to be the McC's witness, in Court, because he is not happy re how it is being used.
That says a lot to me.

melbel said...

Mum, you were too logical for them.You consistently said that you were against neglect, but they twist everything.
I am amazed at the power those two had, though there were multiple postings.

dianeh said...

China and Janet

As I said before, they disgrace themselves, not us, if they would use a missing child to get their 'jollies' off.

If we treat them courteously and non abusively, then we will be living up to our own ideals. It doesnt matter whether they are genuine or not, it is our reaction to it that is all important.

You dont have to believe what they say, you dont even have to answer them but you should be tolerant of them. I myself doubt that they can all be genuine. Maya and Viqu are the two that have me wondering but a bit of restraint reflects well on us.

We are after all compassionate people and dont wish to inflict harm on people who may be genuine.

By the way, I think it is illegal under the terms and the conditions of the blog that we all agree to when we sign up to blogger, to impersonate another blogger or person. I seem to remember reading it somewhere. If someone is pretending to be Susan Healy, perhaps the posts should be forwarded to Clarence for forwarding to the solicitors. Just a thought. If Maya is Mrs Healey, then she wont care but if she isnt, well then, it shouldnt be allowed.

dianeh said...

Jane

As for Thomas, I wondered about her the other day but I would have thought she is far to balanced to be Areepa.

Areepa/Arepa (???/) is really living on Mars, isnt she?

Viqu said...

I am sorry that you all think i might not be genuine,(I know its not just me who is new,and I know it is aimed at all new peeps today)

I am very genuine.What I wrote happened.My son even bought a whistle lollipop and handed it to Kate saying she was to give Madeline it when she comes home.
I subscribe to google alerts and recieve updated info everyday.

I have replied to a few,(3 or 4).

I thought this question was a very good one,thats why I replied.
So maybe i could pop my head in here every so often,and keep up to date.
That`s if you will allow it.

Dont Let Them Hurt Our Children said...

dianeh

I am Hoping You were not meaning me in your last post

Rosiepops said...

melbel

Not only that alsabella has multiple IDs! it is why she tried not to post under her Googl account on her own blog for fear of getting caughte out, but she tripped herself up bigtime when she came here to cause trouble un the name mArlA when she posted under anonymous. Then she came under AnA, strange how many IDs that post on her blog have multiple As in them AlsAbellA AtArdi, clAudiA, now we are expected to believe mAyA? yep pull the other one, these are probably all the same poster and bot doesn't it show a desperate person?

dianeh said...

dlthoc

No, not you.

JANEGT said...

catty Maya

shall I put it that way ''''!!!

did not say she was Susan Healy nor Eileen McCann. ''is not an issue. It is blatantly false anyway. for either or both of them. She did not name herself, therefore what you say does not stand.

We know it was not M's Grandmother. We have a feedjit map.

We know for certain Arepa was Doubting Thomas she left it on top of her post......no doubts at all.

I for one, will not be insulted, sworn at, libelled, then played for a fool. No way.

I speak as I find, If I should make any error I will apologise.

I am making NO apologies tonight. There was one genuine poster only, Janet, that is the only one.

Dont Let Them Hurt Our Children said...

My Name is Janet by the way ..

Dont Let Them Hurt Our Children said...

Sorry I am quite new to this ...
I will try and keep up !

melbel said...

Hi Diane
Thomas is definitely Arepa,but you would need to read back.Maya did not come back with twin's d of b, so that rules her,out.
It is sad, if people get entertainment out of a missing child.I think the other two are ok.

Rosiepops said...

Viqu and DLTHOC

I know you are genuine, I have seen out site under your recommended links, thank you so much for that.

We do not mean to be harsh but we have had some really bad sick people on here and we will protect the McCann's from this and ourselves.

DLTHOC I think you understand this as you yourself had to disable comments because of these sickos I believe you said?

you are welcome here and Viqu we would like it if you popped in, but please do not blame us for being a little suspicious, we have already had a really bad impostor on here today that we outed. it seems some people will stop at nothing.

dianeh said...

Viqu

I am sorry if I have offended you. But was only politely puting forward my suspicions. And it wasnt what you said that made me suspicious but the timing.

So please forgive me. I meant what I said, about not hurting genuine posters. I was trying to be polite.

And for the first time ever, I will admit it. I was WRONG. Dont let my partner ever know I said this, I cant let it get around.

Viqu, I am very sorry.

dianeh said...

Janet

Please to meet you.

JANEGT said...

VIQU

I meant no offence to you at all. to you. I had not seen your posts today, but I have now. I think it is clear to whom I was referring . . . . .

JANET

I think you will find people confuse you with me as I am often called 'Janet' in error by people here ... it is Jane though ... but it has been going on for so long now I am immune to it.

melbel said...

Hi Rosie
On DE,she could post, at the speed of knots [is that right spelling ?]
she lapped up her foolish, British admirers.
I was suspicious of Thomas,because of her avator, which offended me.She did change it, but I had doubts.

Viqu said...

I do understand.
Good night and thanks.

dianeh said...

Jane

Post by Maya

Dear All
I seem to have caused some doubt as to my identity. I truly am Susan Healy my cat is called Maya which is why I posted under this name. I am not familiar with using blogs but google alert e mailed your site and on reading your comments I felt I would respond.I was comforted by your comments and wished to thank you.
As you are obviously aware family comments can be misquoted, I therefore deliberated prior to responding publicly.
Please continue as if I had not posted, I just wanted to thank you.

31 March 2008 23:22

Maya did indeed name herself. We should report this.

Mum21 said...

I find the best way with new posters you are suspicious of is to say nothing at all. Just sit back and wait. If they are genuine they will return. If they are imposters they will soon get fed up with being ignored.
If it is someone claiming to be related to the McCann family, I would tread with great caution. Not because I believe them to be who they say they are....but because there is a 1% possibility my belief could be wrong.

dianeh said...

Melbel/Jane

I missed the post where Arepa the Crepa, left her id at the top of a Doubting Thomas post.

Just confirms how stupid they make themselves look. It doesnt reflect badly on us, only her. Deranged woman.

Dont Let Them Hurt Our Children said...

I am pleased to meet You too ..
I do Understand how Cautious You have to be ...

dianeh said...

If you are all agreed, I will report to Clarence and the McCanns the Mrs Healey post via the website.

As I said, if it is Mrs Healey,then she wouldnt care, if it isnt her, then the imposter had better take care.

Rosiepops said...

If people wish to come on here and disrupt a blog by pretending to be someone they are not and also getting laughs out of an innocent missing child, i think this says more about them and their mentality than it does if we respond with compassion in a very emotive situation.

To you people who are doing this, you really do need to take some time away from the internet and go and examine your motives, as this seems to becoming a sick obsession with you.

Only you have to live with yourself and what you have done in the name of an innocent missing child, because this is truly sick practice.

Rosiepops said...

Diane

Please do have you got copies of the posts?

Mum21 said...

Good Night Ladies, I am off to bed.
See you all tomorrow.
God Bless to you all.

Rosiepops said...

Diane
sorry I have left them in situ for such a reason, as I feel this kind of behaviour cannot be tolerated, it is a step too far.

Rosiepops said...

Mum

Good night sleep well take care xxx

melbel said...

Nite Viqu
A genuine friend of a friend and I do know this person, slightly myself,was on holiday there, too,at same time and saw the children in a restauraunt, just a couple of nights, before,with madeleine sorting out the high chairs for the twins.
It must stay with you, when you have
a link,like that.
Take care and sleep well.
I will go up the wooden hill, too, now, as I am past my sell by date !
Good night and God bless x x x

dianeh said...

Rosie,

will email cut and past and screen shot to you.

melbel said...

Good night and God bless,everyone. x x x

JANEGT said...

DIANE

I haveseen Susan Healy post elsewhere before, and she posted under her own name, not as her 'cat' which is not to me truthful for such a woman....not one bit.

If you wish to report it, then you have every right. It is as Rosiepops says, more than a step too far, bloody miles too far And how.

You are right then, Diane to think that. I had not seen her name one of the 2 grandmothers....... Now that this deranged person HAS named one, it is certainly actionable.

As if they did not have more than enough to contend with. This is so so sick. It is more than kicking someone when they are down. Even Mrs 1 - 5't theories are to 'light' for this sort of attack.

I am right behind you on this one having seen your post there Diane.

100%!!!!

JANEGT said...

have you s e e n the date???

they were too early by a day weren't they?

saddos.

good night mum21
good night rosie

good night diane

and anyone I forgot, sorry good night to you too.

Rosiepops said...

Diane thanks for that will look out for it.

off to bed now have another early start, very busy this week! Loads to do.

Good night everyone, sleep well take care and Diane and Calcite have a good day.

Take care everyone xxx

xxx God Bless Madeleine xxx

dianeh said...

Rosie

My yahoo mail has been down since last Thursday but somehow is up today, have sent email through.

Rosiepops said...

Jane

That means the joke was on them the sad sickos.

It is not even funny anyway and they pretend to want Justice For Madeleine?

Sad Sick people need to get out more and get a life, something intrinsically wrong with them.

helenm said...

Hell ladies,

Anyone there? You won't believe this, only just got in.

Rosiepops said...

China

HBBFY! xxx

Rosiepops said...

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