Thursday 13 March 2008

Murat and Malinka

Let's not forget the other arguido in this case! Also let's see how many comments there are about this in the other blogs, all made by people who "never go to" our blog, yet spend all their time commenting on it.
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At 07:00 WEST on the morning of 14 May 2007, searches began at Casa Liliana, a villa owned by Jennifer Murat, a British citizen, near the apartment where Madeleine went missing.
Police and scientific teams sealed off the house, and at 16:00 the swimming pool was drained.
Three people, including Jennifer Murat's son Robert Murat, were questioned at the main police station in nearby
Portimão. Robert Murat, a frequent visitor to the villa who has dual British-Portuguese nationality, had drawn the suspicion of Lori Campbell, a Sunday Mirror journalist, who informed the police.

Former Murat classmate Gaynor de Jesus said: "I do know that he has been the official translator for the police."[32] Murat had said he was deeply concerned about Madeleine’s case because he had recently lost custody of his own three-and-a-half year old daughter who looked like the missing girl.

Robert Murat was given arguido (suspect) status on 15 May; before being given this status persons are treated as witnesses. It is not clear if Murat or the police asked for the arguido status which gives extra rights such as the right to remain silent.[6] Chief Inspector Olegário de Sousa told a news conference that an un-named 33-year-old (believed to be Murat) had been interrogated, but not enough evidence was found to justify arresting him. Sousa said police had searched five houses on Monday and seized "various materials" from the properties which were being subjected to scientific tests and had questioned two other un-named people as witnesses. Murat stated that he was being made a scapegoat so that the police could be seen to have found a suspect.

It was reported on 16 May that two cars used by the Murats had been examined, and computers, mobile phones and several video tapes were taken from their villa. It also emerged that a British architect who built the villa was ignored when he called police about a hidden basement within the property.

The police were understood to have taken in for questioning Sergey Malinka, 22, a man of
Russian origin, from whose property officers also took away a laptop computer and two hard drives. Malinka had set up a website for Murat and the two exchanged frequent phone calls since Madeleine's disappearance—the reason the authorities started suspecting him.Chief Police Inspector Olegário de Sousa reiterated there was insufficient evidence to make any arrests. Police said that Malinka had been questioned as a witness for approximately five hours, which did not, having regard to the "dynamic" nature of the investigation, mean that he could not become a suspect.

Malinka spoke negatively of the coverage of the case in the Portuguese media, which had alleged that he was a convicted sexual offender. Malinka denied he had contacted Murat, and said he was "completely innocent". Inconsistencies in his account of his relationship with Robert Murat emerged: he had said he had not contacted Murat in a year but Murat’s mobile phone records allegedly show he called Mr Malinka at 23:40 on the night Madeleine went missing. On
19 May, Portuguese detectives flew to England to interview Dawn Murat, the estranged wife of Robert Murat, and detectives re-interviewed other witnesses connected with Murat.

Murat was interviewed for a second and third time on
10 July and 11 July to clarify what detectives described as details and possible contradictions from his previous statement in the light of new information. On the second day detectives from the Polícia Judiciária questioned three friends of the McCanns who were dining with them at the time of the disappearance, Rachael Oldfield, Russell O'Brien and Fiona Payne, "to go over their accounts of events on May 3". The three were also brought face to face with Murat. As a result of the interviews, police examined discrepancies between statements from the three friends and that from Murat, in particular claims from the friends that they saw Murat outside the holiday complex on the night of the disappearance when he had stated that he was at home with his mother. Murat's mother, Jenny, subsequently corroborated his alibi.

Police, including British detectives, resumed searching Casa Liliana on
4 August. Vegetation was cleared and the grounds were searched but despite the use of hi-tech scanning equipment and a British sniffer dog no new evidence was found.

Reports in the Portuguese press suggested that Murat met Gerry while the latter was campaigning for the
Labour Party. Murat denied this on 13 September describing the reports as "absolutely ridiculous" saying "I’ve never met the man before".

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247 comments:

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Hypocrites said...

Nog 'n boodskap vir my vriende in SA. Dankie, doc, ek is so bly dat ek nie so 'bad' is nie.

Sarkasties? Ek? Nooit! Net soos julle: WYSIWYG.

Lyk vir my julle is vies, weet nie hoekom nie. Jammer, hoor. Het nou gese wat ek wou se.

Tot siens julle twee, en goeie nag.

Christabel said...

Tinks,
not half, mind you the weeds don't help do they.
I smoke more when I shouldn't lol.
Don't tell cybernag though will you, else she'll be on my case lol !

Christabel said...

Sass
nite and bless xx

Tinkerbell43 said...

Night Sass, see' ya tom.

Anonymous said...

evening supertroll

how are you and hope things are good on your site.

Got googled off tonight. Couldn't understand it. Not done anything else but fight to get on here having read emailed posts.....then naturally went out for a chinese carry out. then came back to get on. didn't again. so here I am, for long? who knows.

The direct answer is NO done nothing on internet ....yet.

phew.

Google seems to be doing odd things tonight. Only chinadoll and myself seem to have the probs....don't know why.

Anonymous said...

night sassy p see you tomorrow

sleep well

remember...somewhere SOFT....not the keyboard or books.
;o)))

Anonymous said...

oi CHRISTABEL

YOU SMOKE WEEK????

OMG

read your post again before cybercopscid come to your cyber door.....

oh dear. Your chest infection has risen...to your brain.

STOP THE GASPERS WOMAN.

and as for the weed......


oh dear. do you want this blog barred and us all arrested? hmmmm

CYBERNAG is right. STUB IT OUT.

good grief it was national no smoking day this week.

I can talk
#I went up in puff of smoke at least twice today.

melbel said...

HI Tinks
Yes, I meant what docmoc had written to himself!
The probability of 2 SA posters turning up together, are not great !
I was hoping Tulip might translate, so we could be in on the joke.
You take care, Tinks
Christabel, thanks so much for the instructions.
I have written them down, but will try tomorrow, as I cannot find half the keys and the husband has an early start tomorrow and has gone to bed.
I will also go up now, to get a start before he starts to snore.
Good night and sleep tight, all you lovely folk x x x

Anonymous said...

right your noggin bootstraps. here's some broad scots.

wa hey ya wallies bootleginbuggerishsheitenhoofer pffofgertskehhh.,.l.evein after oot alla that anal even efter that an a nagain nagain nagain who you callinapoofteryanumpty herensay that biffbash boff.

hm

scottish africaaaans.

Anonymous said...

I have been having trouble with google too, it has been very annoying tonight.

dianeh said...

Sassy/China

I have an opinion on what the PJ have done. IMHO, the PJ had suspicions and no evidence (maybe just indicators that could be interpreted either way), so as the law was about to change, they pushed through the arguido status on the McCanns. Probably same for Murat (except I dont know why they were in such a hurry to make him an arguido, I would have thought they would do a bit more work first before making him known to the world).
So without evidence, they need a confession from either the McCanns or their friends. Neither will be forthcoming because one doesnt confess to something one didnt do.
I really think that the PJ thought they would get lucky and evidence would present itself. And it hasnt, because if they had real evidence, the PJ would charge them.
And unfortunately, if this was Aust, then the case would be subject to official scrutiny precisely because the laws were changing and the arguido status was set only days before the law changed. I doubt that such a thing will be overlooked by the Portugese Justice department. But I dont know how Portugal works but I do know that they have civl rights activists in Portugal.

Take this lawyer searching the dam at the moment. If he is a civil rights lawyer, as is indicated in the press, than he should actively work at this issue. This is something he could do to aid the McCanns and anyone else caught under the arguido laws.

chinadoll said...

Just been disconnected again,

So What?

Evening Supertoll and Melbel.

Hope my greetings get through.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Goodnight Melbel xx

Anonymous said...

CHRISTABEL

MEANT

YOU SMOE WEED.....

OH DEAR. bad hair day.

Christabel said...

Melbel,
no problem.
If you need any help get Sass to give you my email address.

Nite and Bless Melbel xx

Anonymous said...

chinadoll

I too was cut off at same time as you too....again!!!!! supertroll, you and I so far seem only 3 having probs tonight. But they are long time probs.....most odd.

Melbel

good night. didn't get chance to talk to you. shame. see you next time. sleep well.

Hypocrites said...

Tinks, I saw on the other site that they had read my Afrikaans post. I was simply responding to their latest comments on me. Oh and they did ask me to tell you all that they are in fact two people so you mustn't be so paranoid! They also seem to believe that I would be translating their posts and carrying the content to you like a classroom snitch. I rather like that! Hey, miss!!

Christabel said...

Hey Jane,
don't give em any idea's.
You mean to tell me you smoke ?
After the rollocking you gave Big L and me ?
You've got a nerve lol!

Hypocrites said...

PS

Good night all. Must also go up now to escape the snores.

Mum21 said...

Well...for a blog that states it never come over her to look...I find it amazing just how many of our comments get copy and pasted on the House from Hell. Someone just posted Melbel's request to Tulip on there and one by one they just poke fun at us.
If Swedish Mum cannot see for herself what is going on...then she is not the upfront person I have always given her credit for.
docmac has admitted to being here tonight too.

Christabel said...

Tulip,

Nite and Bless x

Christabel said...

Mum,

perhaps they like us really.
Or its that boring on theirs.
Notdoc must keep the page open, whats he worried about ????????

Anonymous said...

oh dear. I am totally incoherent today, clearly.

No don't smoke never have

both parents did gasping all the time, made me sick best lesson they ever gave me.

can't stand it.

I went up in puff of smoke coz of things on my computer shall Isay. to my distaste. Leave it there. No never smoked. know what it does to you at first hand and am campaigning to stop it. hard. You know that.

now STUB OFF.

don't you dare light up with a chest infection....that's madness. When they briefly opened the DE site again for an hour or 2 recently big l was there and yes, he was and still is I hope, on the wagon. What the hell was that all about, opening the McCann Hys THEN stopping it within a couple of hours. Mad Mad Mad

NOW STUB IT OUT. THROW THEM OUT
put your MITTENS on , not gloves, and do EVERYTHING, YES EVERYTHING, with them on. That will stop you. You will also lose weight.

I am taking you in hand Lady. Mark my cybernagging words

good night. sleep well.

;o)))

Tinkerbell43 said...

Dianeh,

I totally agree with you where the McCs are concerned. I do believe their status was rushed through before the law changed and I think Ribeiro knows this too.

I do lay much of the blame at the door of Amarel, who should never have been allowed to head this investigation in the first place.

Where Murat is concerned, I wouldnt necessarily say his status was rushed through, something must have lead them to dig up Casa Liliana not once but twice. Unfortunately the secrecy laws seem to have been applied to Murat more than they have the McCs.

Christabel said...

Nite all xx

Mum21 said...

Nite Christabel.

I am off now too...so I will say Good Night and God Bless to you all

Anonymous said...

nite christabel

just got booted off again......do you have an ejector button when I say 'smoke'?????

Tinkerbell43 said...

Night Tulip, take care xx

Mum21 said...

Jane. I am the coward and frightened you might nag...because I smoke too.
Nite to you

Anonymous said...

good nite Mum21

see you next time.

enjoy the calm......... ;o)
of your sea I mean

;o)

Tinkerbell43 said...

Night everybody. Take care xx

Anonymous said...

You s n e a k Mum21.

Good that's quite a few now to cybernag. Get your mittens on Mum, and do EVERYTHING with them on. You will feel better. and thinner. Enjoy trousers, as tights or stockings are in the past. hee hee hee great more ammunition. I hope unlike christabel you do not smoke weed. hee hee he. She will rephrase that next time I am sure. HOOT...

You are a sly one. I am going to nag you too. Now got you on my cybernag blog list. Oh dear.

good nite. mittens on? see you next time.

;o)))))

Anonymous said...

NOW IT'S PERSONAL

I AM NOT SO MUCH A
BOG CLEANER
AS A
BLOG CLEARER

NOW I AM ON,
EVERYONE HAS BLOGGED OFF

I CAN TAKE A HINT.

HHHEEELLLOOOO???

IS THERE ANYBODY THERE????

ANY MORE OF THIS AND I AM OFF TO ALSABELLAS, VIV'S AND 3 A'S.

HM.....

HHHEEEELLLOOOOOO??????

Mum21 said...

shushhhhhhhh Jane. we are all sleeping.

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Anonymous said...

I am around, but I am sewing a fancy costume for one of the kids tomorrow.
Sorry I am not too involved.
ST

dianeh said...

Good night to you all. I will look in later to see if anything going on.

Hope to get on over the weekend for a bit of a chat. But rugrats nipping at the heels when I try to do that. Also, need to study for an exam I am doing next week. So on second thoughts, might not see you. So if not, have a nice weekend.

calcite51 said...

Finally, I'm home after my meeting and social - wasn't bad - even decorating the eggs was fun - one decorated an egg like a Monet picture -- clever people.

I see there isn't a great deal of news. The PJ's may be coming after Easter - what a surprise that is! I'm beginning to think they are going to England via the Canadian route.

Diane, agree completely when you said the PJ's had rushed to make the McCanns 'arguidos' because of the changes being made to the laws and I don't think they had or even have very much evidence.

dianeh said...

Calcite

Just been to Skynews and read about that poor girl in GOA and the blame going to her mother. It got the better of me so I left a post.

In a nutshell. I am sick of everyone blaming the parents, ie McCanns, Shannon's Mum and this mother in Goa.

The men who committed the rape and murder are the only ones that are guilty. It doesnt matter whether the girl was alone or not. It doesnt reduce the guilt of these evil men who committed the crime. They are the only guilty people in my eyes. Just because there was an opportunity, they didnt have to take it. They are evil, evil men and they need to be severely punished. I feel when people blame the parents, they partly justify the criminals actions, when there is NOTHING that can justify or mitigate what they have done.

Anonymous said...

docmac

has just accused me on V's site of saying

'he would be dead in 3 hours' time'

unbelievable claptrap.

I NEVER SAID ANY SUCH THING.

I responded, but it won't be published. After all the nastiness here tonight I want it known what has transpired here.

Anonymous said...
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calcite51 said...

Diane - I'm back but I'm thinking of bed soon.

I had read about the GOA mom - and I didn't think it was looking very good for her. It's all very sad. I know 15 year old girls can be very difficult, so I certainly can't judge the mother's decision - perhaps the daughter had run away in the past and was threatening to do it again.

I feel like our society has gone a full circle. I remember when psychiatrists/social workers/,etc... were blaming the mother if their child did something wrong. I thought we were getting away from putting ALL the blame on mothers. It seems to me like we're back in that grove again.

I think most mothers do the best they can and there I go but for the grace of God.

Jane - pay no never mind to notdoc. Don't let him get you upset - you're too good for that. You're an excellent mom, a fair-minded person, intelligent and on top of that you're a great human being (okay go ahead and blush).

calcite51 said...

Diane, that must have been some comment you made - just tried signing on to Sky News and it is down.

calcite51 said...

HelenM - I apologize to you if I offended you with my comment about the Governor of New York. I do feel sorry for his wife and children but I don't feel sorry for him.

Michael Todd on the other hand - the press should leave him and his family alone - lots of people have affairs. I think the press should BUTT out of this one completely.

dianeh said...

Calcite

On the Governor of NY. I dont even feel sorry for his wife. She stood beside him during his speech when he resigned. If that were my husband, I wouldnt even speak to him, let alone stand by him. I do feel sorry for the children though.

What amazes me (over and over by the way) is that these people take on the guise of morals crusaders and then do things like this. He obviously was only a morals crusader for the sake of his political career, not because of his own beliefs.

If he wasnt a morals crusader, I couldnt care less if he dressed as Mickey mouse for sex, let alone that he visited a very high priced escort. The reason for the high price is the guaranteed secrecy. He knew what he was doing was wrong and tried to hide it.

I believe in each to their own as long as they are not hurting others. But that Governor, he was forcing his own beliefs on others and then doesnt even stick to those beliefs. He should have just kept his morals to himself, as well as his ?????.

Hard, arent I? But he should have known better.

calcite51 said...

I agree Diane about the governor but his wife looked absolutely devastated, hurt and furious with him. I thought when I saw her, "That would NOT be me - I certainly would not be standing besides him."

Is it me or are the government officials becoming more brazen with their corruption garbage and yes, we have corruption amongst our politicians in Canada.

calcite51 said...

I'm off to bed - tgif - will talk to you later.

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