Friday, 28 March 2008

Missing Children Statistics

“…A child goes missing every 40 seconds in the U.S, over 2,100 per day
In excess of 800,000 children are reported missing each year
Another 500,000 go missing without ever being reported…”
Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention (OJJDP)

Why so many?

June 20, 2007 by MCA
The problem of missing children is complex and multifaceted. There are different types of missing children including family abductions; endangered runaways; non-family abductions; and lost, injured, or otherwise missing children. When the public hears of a missing child case, it is generally involving one of the estimated 115 child victims of the most serious, long-term non-family abduction called “stereotypical kidnappings”.

The best national estimates for the number of missing children are from incidence studies conducted by the U.S. Department of Justice’s Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention. To date two such studies have been completed.

The first National Incidence Studies of Missing, Abducted, Runaway, and Thrownaway Children (NISMART-1) was released in 1990, and the second, known as NISMART-2, was released in October 2002. According to NISMART-2 research, which studied the year 1999, an estimated 797,500 children were reported missing; 58,200 children were abducted by non-family members; 115 children were the victims of the most serious, long-term nonfamily abductions called “stereotypical kidnappings”; and 203,900 children were the victims of family abductions.

[Andrea J. Sedlak, David Finkelhor, Heather Hammer, and Dana J. Schultz. U.S. Department of Justice. “National Estimates of Missing Children: An Overview” in National Incidence Studies of Missing, Abducted, Runaway, and Thrownaway Children. Washington, DC: Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention, Office of Justice Programs, U.S. Department of Justice, October 2002, page 5.]


Ask yourself

What would you do if your child went missing?
Would you have the needed critical information immediately available?
Would you have current poster quality photos with you to distribute?
If you were traveling, on vacation or visiting friends would you, in a moment of panic and stress, be able to retrieve vital information to aid in search efforts?

http://missingchild.wordpress.com/

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The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Will

melbel said...

Have been a real gas bag on here, today and am quite quiet in real life !

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melbel said...

Cheeky monkey.
I will smack my mouse.

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Jane

I was going to write "Will it be me"

Anonymous said...

ENJOYED THAT.

THE MUM21 POLL

DID THE HOUND ON THE BEACH WIN? OR JUST THE BEACH?

THE TWO WERE SO SIMILAR IT WAS A BIT OF A PUZZLE.

AMAZING YOU GOT THAT POLL/VOTE UP SO FAST. WELL DONE. good fun.

melbel said...

Little cell, is very preoccupied with us, these days and even an anon, commented, how much so.
Could he really think that someone, like me, was paid to be in a media Monitoring Unit ?
They might get me a decent computer, if so.

Anonymous said...

MUM21 poll is a draw. last 2 equal at about 6.3%????

can't have a draw.

when does it close?????

melbel said...

Just going over the road, for a toot [Lancashire for a nosey ]See you

Anonymous said...

SASS

sorry, misread it, we have an hour to go to vote still left, but it is neck and neck with last 2 options......


oh the excitement.
;o))))

where is Mum - she will have to 'cut the ribbon' and make a speech...hee hee

Anonymous said...

MELBEL

that's a new one on me going for a 'toot' never heard that before......must remember it.
;o)))

Anonymous said...

HA HA HA MELBEL

IF IT WERE, IT WOULD BE A...

mouseless monitoring media

unit

ha ha ha that's brilliant. how apt....not......

;o))))))))))))))))

Pour your tea on the keyboard, and then hubbie will HAVE to buy a new computer. Tescos have them now...????!!!!

Rori Hegarty said...

sass, just reading back the posts , as you know i read the3a site,i dont recall docmac ever posting there but someone called mercedes posting info from him , i may be wrong. some of the theories as im sure you are aware on there are totally outrageous and way too far fetched.

Anonymous said...

MELBEL

MOUSE MONITORING MEDIA.....

YOU WORK FOR M3

i ALWAYS KNEW SOMETHING ABOUT YOU...NOW WE ALL KNOW. you ARE singularly M3....so YOU BUY THE bloody biscuits next time cheapskate you get £50,000 a month and moan. No can't have that.

You seemmmmmm surrounded by the letter mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm these days
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmelbel.

;o)))

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Little cell is obssessed with us? How flattering? At least the penguin isnt being mentioned anymore

chinadoll said...

Evening ladies and gents.

Just read this page and note that our Jane has been working her ticket and got first post.

lol

Mum21 said...

Good Evening Ladies (and that includes Isis)

Hope you are all well.

Anonymous said...

MUM21

good evening to you

I see you are here to pronounce winner of our poll, cut the ribbon and make a speech before your new avatar is 'launched'.

glass of red please. and plain crisps. thank you.

;o)))))))))

your last 2 options are 6.3% = neck and neck at the moment less than an hour to go. Did you vote?????

Mum21 said...

Jane,
I just did vote. te he he

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Isis

Hiya

You made it!

You're right! Some of the theories are insane.

chinadoll said...

Isis,

What always bring a lump to my throat, is the thought of how Kate McCann, as a mother, manages to cope with losing her first born child.

I know you have had first experience of this, but just for a moment, imagine being accused of being responsible for same.

Surely, that is the stuff of nightmares and not a nightmare that I would want to visit on anyone.

My heart goes out to this family for their loss and for the persecution that some want to visit upon them.

Lovely to see you here again Isis and trust you are well.

Mum21 said...

Anyone read the long post from 2345 this evening?

I think she needs locking up.

Anonymous said...

CHINADOLL AKA WYSIWYG AKA SWYMAMWYS

GOOD EVENING

YES, iF hELEN CAN GET THERE, PEA B PEA, i CAN BY ME ME ME.

AHA

I see Mum's poll is neck and neck........... I say if a draw Mum gets the '''casting''' vote. ha ha ha get it??? THE ONE WHO CAN'T CAST OFF??? HA HA HA HA HA

OK

i WILL GO SIT ON THE NAUGHTY STEP AGAIN!!!!!

i AM NOT PLAYING HERE ANY MORE.;0( (((

Anonymous said...

MUM

I HAVEN'T READ IT, BUT CAN EASILY IMAGINE.

I WILL GLADLY THROW AWAY THE KEY.

!!!!

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Rori Hegarty said...

Hi China, for what its worth and i have said this before, i dont think that kate did harm madeleine in any way.

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Hiya China

Nice to see you again!

Mum21 said...

Jane,
Are you taking the pi-s out of my knitting skills?
Shame on you :-)

Mum21 said...

Isis, What do you think happened that night?
Just your honest opinion.

chinadoll said...

Isis,

I am relieved that you do not think that Kate McCann harmed Madeleine in any way.

Do you think Gerry did?

Rori Hegarty said...

China, no i dont think gerry did either.

Anonymous said...

mum21'S POLL IS REALLY 'HOT'

NOW 7.3% EQUAL FOR SAME, LAST 2 OPTIONS


HMMMMMM

Anonymous said...

tO BE SERIOUS A MOMENT.

IS THIS SITE SLOW WITH ANYONE ELSE AS IT TAKES AGES FOR POSTS TO BE ACCEPTED TONIGHT...????

melbel said...

Hi all
Thanks for good wishes,Isis re new grandchild, not arrived, as yet,but we are on countdown.keep you posted and thanks again.


Popped over the road, but nothing fresh.
They really need to get cracking and come over and sort out any discrepancies,etc.I am glad it is not me being asked re something so long a go.not a chance of remembering all the details !

Jane, maybe if I sit on the computer, like I often do, with my glasses, I might get a new one !

chinadoll said...

Thew Isis,

Do you think that Madeleine was abducted or do you think that she suffered an accident at her parent/s hand?

Rori Hegarty said...

Mum, my honest opinion is that i believe that madeleine most probably died accidently in the apartment from a fall while her parents were out,after that i have not got a clue.

chinadoll said...

Jane,

Eat your heart out hun.

I can see the doggies with Mum on her avatar.

Brilliant Mum

Simply the Best.

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Only 50 minutes to go Jane. Isn't it exciting!!! Just like the Euro song contest. Chien trois points!

Anonymous said...

MMMMMELBEL

MMMMMMMM3

POUR LIQUID OVER IT AND LEAVE NO ROOM FOR 'REPAIR' AND YOU WILL GET A NEW COMPUTER ETC. also tesco brownie points.......and sit having a coffee while hubbie sorts it all out.

;o))))

Anonymous said...

Mum21

I lose the will to live with 2345's Mrs consecutive numbers, '1-5' 's rants. all same old same old stuck record.

ridiculous.

V. should be really careful after what has happened to A's site with the libellous comments staying up. that's her lookout. Rosie did warn her today around 4 pm was it? Can't remember, brilliant post so please have a look at it. Says it all really .........

Rosiepops said...

Hi Everyone

No sign of the queen yet so everyone can put their hand held flags down for the moment.

Anonymous said...

ha ha ha SASS

that briefly crossed my mind too

L'autriche nil points
ha ha ha ha ha

that's on soon isn't it?

Is boat race this weekend?

clocks forward Sat/Sun 2 am

Oh boy.

now mum's poll


the excitement is boundless......

full emotions from A to....B


;o))

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Hi Tinks darling!

Rosiepops said...

I dropped my new mouse in the muesli and had to take it apart and clean it up and it works as good as new.

With no Laz after his initial excursion on here, I no longer spit fizzy water into my laptop so it remains dry.

Rosiepops said...

Where has SeaWitch gone?

By the way dizzy Lizzy thinks there is only five of us.

melbel said...

Tee hee Janey
The older I get, the dafter,without any effort.
Think I will shut up shop now,as I am flogging myself,with this antiquated equipment !
Have a good evening and nitey, nitey, all and have a lovely weekend.
If I sit much longer, I will need ironing.
take care x x x

Anonymous said...

Well I don't believe it. I have been lurking in the shadows all day waiting for the turn of the page and what happens? My bl.... neighbours return from England and drag me, yes drag me in for a drink!!! Tea at that!

Got my own back though, i have changed my vote!!!

Rosiepops said...

Mum

What did you vote in your own poll?

Rosiepops said...

I want the knitting face to remain, the avatar you have at the moment looks like a maroon square on my computer.

Mum21 said...

Isis, You could be right...but I still cannot believe her parents disposed of the body.
In my own opinion I don't believe they know what happened to her either.

Rosiepops said...

Helen

are you sure the had to drag you?

Anonymous said...

Good evening girls. Bye Melbel, enjoyed reading you today. Have a good weekend.

chinadoll said...

Isis,

I know you said that after the accidental death in the appartment, in your opinion due to a fall - how do you think they disposed of their darling first born daughters body?

Also, it follows, that if you think this, then the fund was just one big con - or maybe you have another explanation?

Rosiepops said...

Mum

what was the time of Mrs Consecutive numbers post?

Mum21 said...

Rosie...I voted for something new.
That would be a challenge for me....and I love a challenge.

As for the knitting...I am handing it over to you. Perhaps it will stop you from falling asleep at the computer.

Rosiepops said...

MelBel

Goodnight, why not get Mr melbel to buy you a laptop

Take care and sleep well xxx

chinadoll said...

Isis,

Sorry about the typo, but, surely, if that is the case, the logical extension of that thought is that the parents - both doctors, concealed an innocent accident, in order to do what? Con the public?

Anonymous said...

evening ROSIEPOPS

Your post earlier was spot on and well said to you. Great.

Yes, Mum21 is now a maroon blob to me too. But, shortly, she will be chief speaker at her new avatar launch.

Last 2 options were neck and neck at 7.3% recently so who knows?????

MELBEL

good night. STOP WRESTLING WITH THAT MOUSE. Do a Rosiepops, only better, submerge it in liquid.

If my neighbour insulted me with an offer of a 'drink' and it was tea, I would run............

Helen. you took me laboriously pea by pea by pea to new page yesterday, so was hell bent on getting it tonight so I now have your crown for new page poster. !

Sass was a very close second.

;o))))))))))))))))))))

ah the joys.......

Dobywallah said...

Hello good fellows, only here for a few sec's, have had a very busy day and am tired out. See Alca Saltza's blog appears to still be frozen unless they have a "secret" password I don't know about? any ideas what's going on?

Rori Hegarty said...

Mum,i dont know what happened the night of the 3rd of may,only a few do. All i do know is that some of the theories and wild conspiracies are just downright mad. I cant see either gerry or kate ,and i hate the word disposing but for want of a nicer word i will use it,of her little body. But someone knows the truth and they must tell out of respect to madeleine.

Rosiepops said...

Hi Mum

Did you read my post to you from yesterday?

just in case you missed it here it is:

"Hi mum

I couldn't say but perjyyiiivnncndppppp "

(I'm still waiting for an answer)

Rori Hegarty said...

China, as i said i really dont know as i have just posted to mum.

Rosiepops said...

Doby

In my vision Alsabella has eloped with Tubby Goncalo and they are now busily producing chubby mustached babies.

This is why her site is frozen.

Rori Hegarty said...

Goodnight to all, my bed is calling. Melbel if you are still here good luck to you and hope all goes well for mother and baby to be. Slán.

Anonymous said...
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Rosiepops said...

Jane

Thank you, it was notes that the post drew many flags from Portugal, this is why I thought the queen was imminent.

Anonymous said...

mum's poll

LAST ONE WINNING NOW, OVER 8% SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

?????


;O))))

Rosiepops said...

I have just changed my vote.

chinadoll said...

Isis,

If you think that Madeleine died that night as a result of an accident in which her parents were not culpable and in which her parents did not do the normal/rational and right thing ie dialling the emergency services and seeking back up, then I have one last question.

If her parents did not dispose of her body, then who did - forgive me if I am wrong, but are you suggesting that one of their so called tapas friends did?

Are we to believe that this group of professional health care workers are party to the greatest cover up/conspiracy of a missing baby, in living memory?

Rosiepops said...

Mum

by the way you did realise that the something different you skiing backwards down a mountain with a daffodil stuck up your rear?

Anonymous said...

CHINADOLL

ISIS HAS LEFT THE BUILDING


;O)))))

Anonymous said...

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
do NOT start me off again rosiepops. Just don't. It took me weeks to get over that last scenario, in fact am still not over it. And I have a large flower pot to prove it.

chinadoll said...

Sorry Isis,

Jane is just advising that you have just left the building - but I only posted four minutes after you and it took me a minute or two to catch up on replies and type my response.

I will look out for you again and hope we can catch up another time.

Anonymous said...

chinadoll

what's weather like with you now????

cold, dark and wet here. huh so what's new?!!

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Just been on the phone! Am ready to rumble! Mum21's poll will be over soon.

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Night Isis!

Anonymous said...

I have the scissors and ribbon SASS for MUM TO 'launch' HER NEW AVATAR. Where do we hurl the champagne? Might I suggest in my direction? can't waste it can we.......

Mum21 said...

Rosie,
I have been trying to look up the time of multi numbers comment.
But for some reason...it is GONE.
It mentioned the closing of a certain person blog....and some sort of way out reason which I could not understand.
Although the reply from Viv remains....the original post has vanished

Dobywallah said...

ROSIEPOPS.

You don't suppose the PJ have given up on G & K and have made Alsabella the latest Aguido and closed her Blog down? And why not, they have more chance of digging up evidence against her than they have managed to concoct against the McCanns!

Anonymous said...

RECOUNT RECOUNT RECOUNT

so many changed their votes at end to manipulate outcome, it should be private, so I

DEMAND A RECOUNT.

haa haah hahahahahaha

Anonymous said...

ROSIEPOPS has disappeared.

If she is reading '1-5' SHE WILL DEFINITELY BE ASLEEP NOW.

WAKE HER UP SOMEONE.

NOT AGAIN. ???

;O))

Mum21 said...

It is a bit like old times over on Viv's now. We have two Portuguese posters chatting to each other.
Now where have we seen that before?

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Hiya Doby

Noone knows about Arsa's - fewer care!!! :-)

Rosiepops said...

Hi China

This accidental theory is just about one of the most outlandish ones that I have heard out of all of them.

Why if God forbid that dear child had an accident and died, wouldn't her parents just call for help and request an ambulance?

It does not make sense.

Why if they had killed her and wanted to hide the body would they then go on to choose to include half of PDL 7 of their friends, filmakers and journalists, the Pope, 2 priests, fisherman and at least 4 members of the British government in their conspiracy to pervert the course of justice?

Not to mention Sky News had to part of it because they testified to when the McCann's actually called them and it wasn't at the time the antis keep repeating and want ting to believe.
If they had harmed her why on earth would they have chosen to break the news in the crazy way they did without having their story water tight in the beginning?

none of this makes a bit of sense what so ever.

Madeleine McCann was abducted and the PJ have not got one word to say about her abductors! The Portuguese police remain fixated on blaming the McCann's for this.

I believe that there has to be an ulterior and more sinister reason for this, but it is not washing and it will not because people are smelling a rat. (I know she is supposed to be in Turkey - but not if she has gone via Terminal 5 lol)

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Jane

In 9 minutes you stand with your mouth wide open and I'll lob champagne in your direction!

Anonymous said...

CHINADOLL

RED PLEASE - AND CRISPS HAVE RUN OUT.....vol au vents too - and sausage rolls finished.

VOTE TO BE ANNOUNCED, HAVE YOU GOT YOUR TRUMPET FOR THE FANFARE?

I have the party poppers.

GO SASS GO SASS GO!!!!

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Rosie

If you lived on Anti-Planet you would see the logic behind all these theories!

Anonymous said...

ok sass

BUT MAKE SURE THE CORK IS OUT FIRST.

Rosiepops said...

jane

it is true, why else do you think that sass has got the daffs ready on her avatar for?

Mum21 said...

Well...if a new avatar wins....then I will have to get busy tomorrow and make one.
Better put my thinking cap on :-)

Anonymous said...

mUM

A FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFORENSIC

SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSCIENTIST


PERHAPS?????

with a gun.

Anonymous said...

where's china gone???

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

And the winner is . . .


S O M E T H I N G
C O M P L E T E L Y
D I F F E R E N T

with a massive

45% of the votes!!!

Mum21 said...

Jane, Don't put ideas into my head :-)

Rosiepops said...

Sass

What do you think that Anti-Planetarians look like?

I imagine them all running around with shirts buttoned right up to the neck, skirts down to the ankle and their mouths would be distinctive because they would all look like they were sucking wasps!

Anonymous said...

no I demand a recount. not accepted. rigged.

you all changed it at last minute. no

????

Anonymous said...

Mum, look forward to seeing your new avatar.

Are you able to give a time for TW reply to 2345?

Dobywallah said...

Sassy. Little bit coincidental don't you think? Alroy appears on Alsa's Blog and the next thing is its closed down. I think Alroy has a few mates in govenment and a bit more inluence we have given him credit for, probably had a word with his Pal Georgie who had a quiet word down the Portuguese P.M or presidents ear and "hey presto" job done, no messing!

Mum21 said...

Looks like I am going to be busy tomorrow then.
And I was supposed to be altering curtains. te he he

Rosiepops said...

Well mum get the daff in position and let us know when you plan to do it.

chinadoll said...

Sorry,

Got called away.

Doby, just refreshed and saw you there. Joking aside, I truly believe that this case is possibly the grossest miscarriage of justice against parents who have never even been charged, but have been hung out to dry by an incompetent, inexperienced and incapable police force.

Rosiepops said...

Doby

Could you get him to have a word about Viles? Or shall I tell the PM when I meet him for lunch next week?

chinadoll said...

Ok Mum,

A new avatar it is.

Just make sure you and the dogs are on it and ignore the rest of the trolls lol

x

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Rosie

Let's call them Plantis!

I reckon, like you, that they have the wasp sucking going on. Can imagine trousers up to just under their boobs (under their arms for men), hair greased down in an Adrian Mole style (men and women) a blouse with a huge bow at the front for women and for men a shirt with a really wide tie. They'd be really bitter (and they wouldn't understand it) because noone likes them even though they're a "delight" in their eyes.

Rosiepops said...

Mum

I am sure that Mrs Consecutive numbers could think something up!

Anonymous said...

O U C H !!! SASS

I said take the cork O U T....now I - like Mum - have no teeth. Now we are all the same, no teeth, all knitting, brainless, over 90 and what else????? WRI, wrinkled, certifiable, insane, drunk, several people, Gerry, Clara, Jane, M3 ha ha ha ha

BRING IT ON.

amazing intit??

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Doby

He certainly seems to have the kiss of death on blogs!

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Rosie

Are we on the same train next week? What time do we get to London?

Anonymous said...

Night all, sleep well.

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Jane

Why should you have teeth if I don't have any.

What I find sad is that even in the state we are all apparently in men are still willing to pay! Thank goodness for motorways.

Mum21 said...

Helen. I think we are being watched....because that has gone now too.

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Night Helen

Try and get in first tomorrow!

Mum21 said...

Night Helen and God Bless

Rosiepops said...

China

You are right, this is a dreadful situation, to have your child taken and not know where she is and then to be blamed for it must be painful beyond words, my heart goes out to this family
But they should keep hope because I still just feel that they will get Madeleine back soon, I don't know why, I just feel it.

Words cannot express how angry I am with the Portuguese police, their incompetence is staggering and yet they would still rather try and blame the McCann's by way of leaks and smears.
Apparently they have now leaked that the 2 of the friends want to change their story, I do not know how many times I have read this now, yet they still trot it out every so often.

I expected it to come out again though because April 7th is nearly here and they will want to try and play their little mind games!

Personally of they arrive here on April 7th I will be most surprised, how many times have we hear that they are coming? Only to see they do not arrive?

Rosiepops said...

Sass

How about we run a poll to see what excuse the PJ will use for when they do not arrive in the UK on April 7th?

Anonymous said...

NIGHT HELEN

sweet dreams

chinadoll said...

Rosiepops,

The conspiracy theories really are beyond belief or comprehension.

What type of twisted mind, can even dream up such sick scenarios?

I fervently hope, that in years to come, these sad excuses of human nature, will be outlawed to the status of the paedophiles/nasty bastard abductors, they are defending.

Sorry Sassy - but that word is in the damned dictionary

Mum21 said...

Good Night Ladies...I am off to bed.
Sleep well and God Bless.

Rosiepops said...

Helen

Good night sleep well take care xxx

Anonymous said...

good night Mum

sleep well sweet dreams

looking fffffffffforward to your new
fffffffffffffffffffffffforensic
avatar...ha ha ha ha

;o))))

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Chinadoll - you don't have to apologise to me! Go for it!

Rosie - which options would you like?
a) they were washing their hair
b) they had a lunch break and missed the plane

(Vile's blog is going to freak about this!)

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Night Mum21

Have a good sleep - dream of avatars!

Rosiepops said...

Mum

are you getting an early night so you can get a good start to the mountain tomorrow? Will you buy your daffs here and take them with you, just in case you cannot get any where you are going?

Good night sleep well takes care xxx

chinadoll said...

Goodnight Mum,

and pooches,

Godbless

x

Rosiepops said...

China

As we are always called 'child negleter defenders' by the antis, perhpas they may like to be called 'child abductor defenders?'

Works both ways!

Dobywallah said...

CHINADOLL:
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, I AM IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT. NOW, MY EYES ARE CLOSING SO MUST GO. TALK AGAIN. GOODNIGHT ALL. XX

Rosiepops said...

Sass b) should read they had a 3 hour lunch beak and missed the plane.

c) They were looking for their forrrreeennnsssiiiiccs manual

d) They got Robert Murat to transalet the plane tickets and he gave them the wrong date

Rosiepops said...

translate even!

Rosiepops said...

Or

e)They lost the letters rogatory

Rosiepops said...

Doby

good night sleep well take care xxx

dianeh said...

Rosie/China

How are you this morning?

I am always astounded by the increasingly stupid theories and the complete lack of evidence to support them, unless of course one takes only selective leaks from the PJ, ignoring the rest, and then ask ridiculous questions that apparently prove that the theory is correct.

I watched a show recently on Discovery/Nat Geo/ not sure but it was about conspiracy theories. If you can only create or support a theory with unanswered questions, then it is not a theory, it is fantasy. Apparently a sign of conspiracy theories, is that they always pose questions instead of stating a hypothesis and then finding evidence to support it.

Does any of this sound familiar?

China, I know you dont agree with Isis but the fall theory is one of the more sensible theories but where it completely falls down is how was the 'body' disposed of. If we go away from the abduction theory, the most likely explanation is that Madeleine wandered off and either met an accidental death (but then where is the body) or was then abducted (which would explain why there is no body). But then that in itself means that a big coincidence took place that an abductor just happened by and found her wandering, so took her. While possible, it is not likely.
In my mind, most likely theory is targeted abduction, reason unknown, persons unkown.

dianeh said...

Doby

I know you are off to bed but your Alroy joke will probably be made into a theory in the near future. It is after all the most outlandish explanation as to why A's blog has closed down, so it is sure to be turned into a 'fact' by those we know to be reality challenged.

Good night to you.

chinadoll said...

Spot on Rosiepops,

They certainly are in the same league as child abductor, defenders.

They choose to hound innocent parents rather than the guilty party and cannot or do not or will not look at the actual evidence and realise/wake up to the fact that someone with an ulterior motive, was responsible for this heinous crime.

I can just imagine the baying anti internet crowd, throwing stones at this couple. Only their heads are visible in the sand that they are buried in.

Pure heathens - I pray to God, they know no better and will not be condemned in eternity for their pure nastiness.

I always try to see the best in people, but this case truly makes me despair.

dianeh said...

China

I checked out the Eyes for Lies blog yesterday, I think it was you for recommending it. Very good isnt it.

And I see that Eyes thinks that the McCanns are telling the truth and she has thought that all the way through. I went through some of her other cases and was surprised that I agreed with most. Not sure about John Ramsay though. I really thought he didnt do it but Eyes says he isnt telling the truth. It did cross my mind years ago, that John did know who killed Jonbenet but for some reason was covering. Eyes doesnt say that but she also doesnt say that John did it either, just that he is lying.

But very interesting site.

Rosiepops said...

Diane/China

I think this is a targeted abduction too, maybe for a ransom? who knows?

Isis also said earlier that someone must know, well of course someone knows what happened but I do not think it is this poor child's parents.

Someone or some people in PDL DO KNOW what has happened to Madeleine and what are the PJ doing to discover who they are ? Nothing! And it makes my blood boil!

chinadoll said...

Diane,

I could not say it better myself.

The optimum word you quoted, was FANTASY. A world that may seem to exist in.

chinadoll said...

Sorry Diane,

Should have read

'a world that many seem to exist in'

Anonymous said...

rosiepops

I have said before I totally agree with you, it was an abduction and for a reason or money but not at all a 'normal' if I can be excused for using that word, type crime, This has a lot of deep secrets. Too many people involved, too many coincidences. Far too many. For such abuse to be hurled with no PROOF at the McCanns meakes me suspect in a major way, those that accuse to deflect blame from something that has been going on for some time.

I still have hopes that Madeleine is alive, in Portugal or Spain, waiting to be found.

What gets me bloody mad is noone is looking now. Noone. It is all McCann bashing, theories and bloody
ff ing fffffffffffffforensics.

No evidence
No proof
No guilt that's why.

Abducton WHY NOT why the hell not!!!

Far more plausible than a decaying 28 day old body in boot of a car with press, police and tv crews looking at you 24/7
Mrs C Nos please sweep up my sick and analyse it. Thank you.

chinadoll said...

Rosiepops,

It won't be the first time that this little sleepy fishing corner of Portugal, has swept the filth under the carpet.

Enough said.

Anonymous said...

Indeed Chinadoll INDEED!!!!!

dianeh said...

Rosie, China

Back on the conspiracy theories, I have been sucked in by a few. I used to think that the US govt was hiding UFO's (but hey I was a teenager), now I think they dont know what they are either. Although I love Stargate, I really dont think that anything has happened, like Eisenhower is meant to have made a treaty with the Greys. I mean, really, what a load of tripe.

Also, got into Kennedy Assassination and do not subscibe to one bullet theory. that is the most telling evidence against Lee Harvey Oswald. I think the real evidence is still out there and I dont think was a govt conspiracy.

And liked the Holy Blood and Holy Grail (what the Da Vinci code was taken from ) but although they raise many questions, I dont believe they adequately answered their own theory. There is much to support their theory but the authors used way to many questions in support of their hypothesis for my liking. I do however think they are onto something but it will never be proven, so will always just be a matter of faith.

Just thought I would bore you with some of my favourite conspiracies.

Sorry if it is too late at night for this.

chinadoll said...

Diane,

It was not me that recommended that site hun, but would like a link to have a peek if possible.

I may or may not look.

I tend to take matters at face value, which is why I am here with you guys.

Anonymous said...

hello diane

;O))))

HOW ARE YOU?

dianeh said...

Jane

I agree with most of what you write. Just not sure how far it goes. It has occurred to me over the last few weeks that perhaps the McCanns were a victim of circumstance and that their problems with the PJ, are only because the PJ are trying to make themselves look good in the eyes of the world, not that there is a larger conspiracy.

But still I think that Madeleine may have been abucted as part of a larger child trafficking ring. It doesnt necessary follow that any of the PJ are complicit in this at all. It may just be their poor results (and possible practices) that have them gunning for the McCanns.

Not sure, I keep changing my mind over the larger picture.

Rosiepops said...

Jane

I last saw Mrs Co, Numbers with a magnifying glass in one hand and a DIY foorreennssiccs manual in the other!

Rosiepops said...

China

Point taken 7 miles away from PDL and still her little body has not been found. But then again perhpas there is no body to be found?

Perhaps Interpol should do a spot check on all childrens homes in Portugal?

dianeh said...

China

I wonder who it was that recommened it then. Maybe Tinkiebell. But whoever it was, thank you.

here is a link, well worth a visit.

http://www.eyesforlies.blogspot.com/2007/05/
madeline-mccanns-parents.html

Rosiepops said...

Diane

You wouldn't know where to start with the conspiracy theories over the Twin Towers!

Rosiepops said...

And odn't forget the one where there was no actual moon landing!

chinadoll said...

Diane,

I agree.

Since time immemorial, conspiracy theories have abounded.

As with figures and mathematicians, words and stories can be manipulated/bent to the authors view.

Nothing has changed.

A different audience and a differnt baying crowd - that is all.

It is human nature, that people believe in what they want to believe in and will adjust/bend information to suit.

Unfortunately, this is the way of the world and some people would not acknowlege the truth if it smacked them in the face.

Rosiepops said...

Diane

My rational logical head says that the PJ are not complicit here, but then it only takes one or two.

I would still like to know what is happening in the Casa Pia trial which is being heard in secret apparently? How can a case of such magnitude be held behind closed doors? If I were Portuguese I would be wanting this out in the open and I would want to know exactly what is happening.

None of us like to think that perhaps we have bent policeman but it would not be the first time that the police have been guilty of perverting the course of justice.

dianeh said...

Rosie

And didnt you know that Harold Holt (former PM of Aust) was taken by aliens, KGB, or any number of other things.

I love them.

But I wonder how many of the anti's subscribe to some of the more wild conspiracy theories, particularly the Twin Towers and the new one, I only just came across, that global warming/climate change is only a put up job to make money for the govts of the world.

Rosiepops said...

Diane

That last one made me laugh about global warming are you sure it's not? LOL

dianeh said...

Rosie

Corrupt policeman are the bane of all countries. But it is countries where the people and the system refuse to see that the corruption exists, that are the most at risk. We (US, UK, Aust, NZ, Canada and of course many others) all came to terms with this many years ago and although we make a big effort to stamp it out, it continues to return again and again.

I dont know if there is any corruption in the PJ involved with Madeleine's case but as you tell us so often, there are procedural issues that need to be addressed, if for no other reason than to give confidence to the people of Portugal and the rest of us, that the PJ have acted to the best if their abilities and in Madeleine's best interest.

The type of open inquiry that is needed will also bring out corruption issues, if a 'whistleblower' protection policy is put in place to protect any witnesses. We have one here, and it has been used numerous times with the police and other govt agencies.

chinadoll said...

Rosiepops,

You are off target.

From what a well respected Portuguese poster told me, it was not the bent policemen, but bent twisted politicians and their ilk/type, that were responsible for Casa Pia.
Indeed, the Portuguest police, in this instance, exposed same.

I do hope that justice will prevail, for darling Madeleine, her family, loved ones, supporter and friends.

My final plea/prayer, is that somehow, we can work together, put all the nastiness behind us and move forward, to find the truth.

Divvy moo that I am.

Anonymous said...

HI GUYS

I too have read the eyes for lies blog too and haven't a clue now how or when or who gave it to me. Isn't that the way now. So much about Madeleine, far too much to sift through, some outrageous libel, some could be sense, some weirdo armchair detectives, but one thing I have to say, if the PJ did ot have in their OWN RANKS people already involved with brutality to women over child disappearances shall I say ... rather than what I think even worse,...... then they pointed to themselves, they invited the comparisons, the criticism, and have done absolutely sod all to deflect it and justify it in any way.

he criticisms still stand, ore s given Amaral and that idiot Cristoevo's libellous book . . . just changing a couple of ames he thinks protects him. Just let him try to publish it here. Hope he does. His little dancing feet won't touch the ground. He is an utter disgrace, another Portuguese arguido ex cop with an axe to grind and no sense at all. I shall stop here, as what I want to say I cannot.

Rosiepops you know exactly what I mean.......

and the link to children' homes or whatever name you want to cloak it in. Yes, they too need investigated.

NOONE IS NOR HAS BEEN LOOKING FOR MADELEINE FOR MANY MANY MONTHS. EXCUSE THAT? NEVER. NO WAY. THAT IS THE NEGLECT. THAT IS THE POLICE FORCE NEGLECTING THEIR DUTIES. TOO BUSY BUILDING THEIR CASE AGAINST THEIR OWN ARGUIDO STATUS.

SO
SUE ME.
#
HERE I AM

;O))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


YOU ARE WRONG I AM RIGHT.

JUST WAIT.

dianeh said...

Jane, China, Rosie and anyone else still awake.

I have to go. There is a little girl here who is insisting that it is her turn on the computer as she needs to
a) earn some money
b) talk to her friends on Nick Jnr.

'Please momma' she is saying now. I dont know where this momma come from, probably some show she has been watching on the tv. Little boy's favourite at the moment is 'cookie'. Bye bye cookie he said to Nana yesterday. I got a hello cookie this morning and I have no idea what its about.

So bye from me.

chinadoll said...

Goodnight all,

Bed and hubby are calling.

x

Anonymous said...

BYE COOKIE DIANE THEN

SEE YOU HAVE YOUR HANDS FULL.

NICE TO TALK, EVEN BRIEFLY TO YOU.

IT IS NEARLY 1 AM NOW HERE IN UK SO I AM OFF SOON TOO.......

BYE

;O))

Rosiepops said...

China and jane

Good night to you bothe sleep well and take care xxx

Anonymous said...

GOOD NIGHT MY CHUM CHINADOLL

SEE YOU SOON

SLEEP WELL AND COSY AND WARM.

IF LIKE HERE, YOU WILL NEED TO KEEP WARM.......

Anonymous said...

ROSIEPOPS

DID YOU SEE THE LONG RANTING POST BY MRS CONSEC NOS AT ALL? SOMEONE SAID IT WAS DELTED...THINK IT WAS MUM.....

IF SO i WOULD LIKE A LAUGH, YOU DON'T HAVE IT DO YOU?????!!!!

Rosiepops said...

Diane

have a good day and give that little girl a cuddle from us, bless her little heart.

take care xxx

Rosiepops said...

Jane

I did not see it as it was deleted.

Vile must be getting worried! Or perhaps Mrs Co. Numbers deleted it heself?

Good night Jane, off to bed just dozed off again and woke up to see everyone going!

Little dog is here with me curled up on the end of the sofa with her little head on the arm, snoring away!

Anonymous said...

ROSIEPOPS

yOUR POST AROUND LUNCH BREAK TIME OR SO...RE THE MAN ON MOBILE NEAR KIDS WITH YOUR GRANDCHILDREN...

bang on. If this sorry sad confused mess has taught us anything it is to look so very hard at anyone around kids. I too have had suspicions about folk just walking to me 'too close' behind young girls, and stopped my car to look and check. That is one good thing to come out of this, we are all so very acutly aware now of how little time is needed, just few seconds of 'opportunity'.

Sad, but true. This enhanced awareness though can only be good.

Rosiepops said...

Good night everyone else just looking in.

Anonymous said...

My beloved cat once had a cold, and when he snored, my god it was like a mini aircraft. Always with his head on my lap. How I miss that. It was funny though. Such a little animal and this 'engine' noise. ha ha You just brought back a fond memory.

GOOD NIGHT ROSIEPOPS

SLEEP WELL, PREFERABLY IN YOUR BED NOT ON LAPTOP WITH DOG PREFERABLY NOT STAPLED TO YOUR ARM.

CATCH YOU SOON

NIGHT, BLESS .....;O)

Rosiepops said...

Jane, me too I cannot bear the thought of something happening and I could have prevented it!

I firmly believe that someone in PDL saw something that night, maybe they have even reported it and it has been ignored?!

Rosiepops said...

Good night Jane and I have just noticed the little dog is sleeping and snoring but has one ear cocked to listen for me closing my lap top, she will then follow me upstairs.

So that is it, time to close my lap top. xxx

Athena said...
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calcite51 said...

Testing, testing....

calcite51 said...

Anyone left here??

Anonymous said...

Kate and Gerry have been through so much, it's almost inhuman to make them go through a reconstruction of the night of the disappearence.Have the Portuguese Police no concern for Kates failing health? What puropse will it serve?
It won't bring Madeleine back.Kate and Gerry have lives to live,they MUST be allowed to carry on....at all costs.

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