Sunday, 6 April 2008

There Are No More Perfect Parents Than There Are On The Internet

To all those people who "never look at this blog" and think they are perfect . . .

I used to be a big AOL parenting message board poster. Let me tell you, there are no "better parents" in the world than the moms from the AOL message boards. These women would sit, banging away on their keybords, judging every wrong thing you ever did with your kid. All. Day. Long.

Later, I branched out to the real internet and found that those women existed all over the internet. I found out I was a terrible mama because I got sick of my kids and had to get out of the house and away from them. I was a terrible mama because I had sent my youngest son to daycare. (The horrors!) I was a terrible mama because I forgot to put sunscreen on my kids. (Hey, man, I'm dark skinned. I don't think of it, sometimes, sorry.)

I found out once that the most judgemental woman I have ever met online smoked. in her house. With her kids in it. When I found that out, I had a massive epiphany. It's really easy to fake being a good mom on the internet. I can sit here and tell you all day that my children have never had a bit of candy, that they only eat organic foods hand-picked from a farm in my backyard and you'd never know the difference. I can tell you I have never lost my patience with my kids even once. I've never yelled at them and I certainly have never spanked them.

But since I'm all about the honesty, I'll tell ya. According to internet standards, I'm a crappy mom. And I'm proud of it.

http://www.loveshakbaby.com/2007/05/there_are_no_mo.html

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Jojam said...

Good Morning,

I know I'm not a perfect Mum, I made mistakes but both my Boys' have grown into well balanced adults who have never broken the law, they both have good jobs, loving relationships and are kind,caring individuals who make me proud to be their Mum.

Have a good day all

helenm said...

Great article Sassy.

I would like to add one of the comments left on this article, which confirms my thoughts certainly:

The deepest-held pathologies are often borne by those least willing to admit the first imperfection. Their guise of effortless happiness is a thin veil trying to mask the worst elements of human behavior.

helenm said...

Just to show you that I am not perfect (in/at anything) gone back to murky past avatar. Enjoy!

dianeh said...

Hi Helen/Jojam

It seems that I have overnight been accused of being a poor mother by that poor excuse for a woman Vile.

It seems that she has once again extrapolated from simple statements to sinister connotations and come up with her theory that I am a poor mother. So much for getting the facts, just make up what you dont know. Stupid woman, I wonder why any one at all ever converses with her on her blog. If she uses the same type of reasoning about the McCanns that she has used on me then I have no doubt at all how she finds them guilty of all sort of things. She has no deductive, logical reasoning powers, just the ability to jump to conclusions.

It seems that this article is timely indeed.

dianeh said...

Hi Helen

Enjoying your Sunday morning.

I am cooking tea and just popped onto see if anything going on.

I agree with the article. If you check the Vile blog, you will see my post and the one that sparked it off. And can you believe it is on the same topic.

helenm said...

Good morning Diane/Jojam

Going to have a look at last nights post Diane. Was to be expected from TW as Sassy posted earlier. Confirms how she came by the nickname 'VILE'.

Jojam taken a gander at TWS whatever you posted has been deleted.

dianeh said...

Helen

By the way, the stupid woman came here and took my post and then posted it on her blog, as she thought she was onto something.

Onto the road to insanity if you ask me.

So I had no choice but to go there to post. I feel dirty. I need a shower. Aargghhh.

dianeh said...

And for the record. I wont be losing any sleep over what Viv thinks Ive my parenting skills. In fact, since she is usually so far from the truth (usually outright wrong), I will take it as a compliment.

helenm said...

Diane,

Please don't give TW's comments a moments thought. What a sick twisted person he/she is. We have known for months now that he/she does not require anything other than the smallest titbit of information to put his/her vile slant on things. A truly wicked, sick mind.
Enjoy the rest of your evening with your lovely family.

helenm said...

Diane,

That's twice now that our posts have crossed, and talking on the same subject. Must be intellectually tuned!!!LOL

melbel said...

Morning Diane,Helen ,Jojam and anyone else online
Back home, today, so should be easier to comment.Thanks for the Guardian/observer article, posted last night by China.
I think that the comment in Helen's post, said it all really, at 9 30.
I feel that many of the most perfect parents, among the antis, are deeply troubled and unhappy individuals and think that they have just latched onto this issue, for their own agendas.The more we beat others, the more we are distracted from looking at what is going on, in our own lives.
The attitudes of the parents are picked up, by the children,who are finely tuned to what is going on in the home.
I have one question.Which children or grandchildren, are most likely to give the McCann children [Sean and Amelie],a hard time at school ?
Is it the offspring of those, who watch, almost at the foot of the cross, in sorrow and compassion, or is it those from hate filled homes, with the parents spitting disgusting, untrue, unfair, immoderate and vicious comments, into a computer?
Is it those, who quietly support the family [the vast majority, in my view ], or is it those who fire off vicious letters to a grieving grandmother ?
This has, seemingly been removed, from Ar's website, but too late,as the damage is done.
There have always been know it alls,thick, peabrained, smallminded people, who usually are far from reticent, in criticising others.
I do not respect these people,or their opinions, but am concerned about the damage that they can do to these children and their family, with their vicious tongues.
When my children were at school, the primary teachers, used to absolutely and rightly, jump on any racism and I feel that the McCann children and their school, will need skilled help, to offset the damage done by the like of Vile's children, who will take their mother's attitudes,in a most destructive way.
This is sheer unadulterated child abuse, in my book and worse than someone,naively supposing their children might be safe, while they dined, 85 steps away.

kiwigirl said...

Hi Diane

I replied to you on Supertrolls blog as I thought what a wonderful response to the c*** that woman spouts! Hopefully now her sycophantic followers can now see how she doctors information and takes things totally out of context!Although I won't hold my breath, as not only will I turn blue, but probably asphyxiate!!!

Something else that really got to me on her blog, while reading through it was the following:

Viv to Bianca
... I have also posted pictures of Kate and Gerry McCann several years ago, with shiny red noses.faces etc and a table full of alcohol. We know that on this holiday they drank extremely heavily whilst leaving their children completely alone, tiny children. If UK if this combination of behaviour had been brought to the attention of SSD there would be serious child protection concerns, particularly in context of Kate shouting late at night and the children becoming involved in such drunken disharmony....
Saturday, 5 April 2008 20:48:00 o'clock BST

It's my belief that that particular photo was taken several years ago prior to Kate and Gerry having children, so how could they have left tiny children alone - it's highly unlikey that they had any at that time!!! The look that Kate is sporting in the picture is classic late 1990s, she wore her hair like that in NZ, and I can categorically state she did not have any children while in NZ. Not only that it's obvious that this picture was taken of them at a function (a friends wedding) why shouldn't they have a few drinks? But for the record Kate at no time drank heavily daily while out here!

And as for the second part of this paragraph, why would the SSD be brought into this...a lot of people shout at each other at some time in their relationship, it's called arguing, I don't think I know anyone who hasn't at some time yelled at their spouse, partner, husband. God, if we contacted CYPs everytime someone yelled at their partner or their children, their track record would be even worse than it is now!

kiwigirl said...

The first paragraph in my previous post makes it sound as though I'm talking about ST - oops, I'm not by 'that woman' I mean viv....sorry!!

Jojam said...

Hi Helenm/Dianeh,

I removed my post on TWS as thought better of it........Vile would only have twisted it.

Dianeh,

Take no notice of her twisted comments......All 'Perfect Parents' are Liars.........nobody gets it right all of the time.

melbel said...

Diane
It is apparent, to anyone with a brain in their head, that you are a fine person and mother.
Vile enjoys dishing supposed dirt and is desperate, knowing that the case is not going her way.
I noted Mark pulling her up, on one of the disgusting lies she told recently, when she suggested that Richard Branson, had discontinued support for the Mccanns.
In fact, Branson put in another £100,000, after they were made arguidos and helped start a fighting fund, towards their legal expenses.
Never one to let lack of facts get in the way of a story, she is increasingly hitting out, like a demented wasp, in a milk bottle.
She currently runs an article suggesting that 95% of children harmed, are by their families.
No significant revelations there, but what about the other 5 %?
How rare is it for a child to disappear, while on holiday, in these circumstances ?
Why half the world's press camped out there ? Exactly, we are talking about a very unusual event here, far from the norm.

helenm said...

Well said Melbell, your post of 0957.
In your post at 10.10 the following phrase has me ROTFLOL:

'Never one to let lack of facts get in the way of a story, she is increasingly hitting out, like a demented wasp, in a milk bottle.'

What's the betting that Jane plagarises (?spelling) this from you?

melbel said...

Kiwigirl
Hi.
I thought that was a wicked and vicious remark and suggestion, made by this vile woman, who should be sued and be made to stand in court, for the daily libelous remarks made.
She, after all, is the blog boss, if you like, so who is censoring her ?
Free speech, my a...se!This is the babblings of a seriously disturbed psychopath, in my very considered opinion.
The Times Journalist, said that they drank moderate amounts and why should they not drink at a wedding, as they thought fit ?
If you classed every normal person, who had a barney, with the husband, as "problem families ",[Hey, Vile, we have not used that sort of politicially incorrect language, in official UK circles for years ], you would be driving round the streets, with thousands of double decker buses, to round people up.
Vile, you know nothing about Social Services, or Probation,unless it is as a client. Trust me.I know.

melbel said...

Helen
HIYA.Cackle, cackle !
I am in top gear, now, caplocks flashing on and off and sparks coming out of my ears.
Back home later, today.Up the reds !x

dianeh said...

Kiwigirl, Jojam and Melbel

Thank you for your kind posts. Kiwi, I know I have already said that on ST's blog, but I really do mean it.

Kiwi and I are both mothers (getting on a bit, Im a bit further along than Kiwi though) with small children, who work full time and live full lives. I can only speak for myself but it wasnt until the McCanns got into strife that I got into this blogging thing. And if it wasnt for the libellous b*lls*t that was on the DX, I probably would never have blogged at all.

I dont have a lot of time, although have been on and off all day to day. I usually sneak on while working. Because you know I HAVE A LIFE and dont need to live a surrogate life by slagging off innocent people on the internet.

So here is to us mothers and grandmothers who love our children and grandchildren. Actually I have a step granddaughter who is coming up to 1 year old. We hope to raise and nuture our children to be caring people. My mum alwasy told me that if you cant say anything nice, dont say anything at all. Now while I sort of subscribe to that theory, I will always break that rule when I am attacked unfairly, as I was today. Additionally, I dont think that people who intentionally try to make others lives a living hell deserve to be spoken to nicely.

Its a pity that Viv and her mates didnt have a loving caring mother like mine, to be brought up with values that include compassion and understanding. I teach my children the same lessons that I learnt from my mother. One day, they will also be kind compassionate people that other people are glad to call their friend.

dianeh said...

Melbel

It too have wondered on what side of the law Viv got her experience. She is a bit hard up for facts and logical thinking, so hard to believe she is a lawyer or probation office. Imagine the compassion she would give to her clients as a probation officer. Heaven help them.

melbel said...

Just one last thought, before I am surgically removed from the keyboard.
In a wakeful hour, in the early hours,I did a little breakdown of the posts on TWS.
Of 268 posts [bloated by the influx from grannybasher's website], the top 5 are as follows.
1 vile 35 posts
2leigh [monkey catcher ]43 posts
3 Hope 28 posts
4 Bianca 21 posts
5Zodiak14 posts
6 lgc12 posts
There were 20 others, mainly with less than 4 posts and 4 pros [not reflecting any deleted,because it did not reflect, what the blogboss wanted their post to do.
With any mass exodus, there will still be a few, with a lot to say.

dianeh said...

Kiwigirl

We (my partner and I) enjoy a wine at night as well. We like good quality wine and drink quite regularly. We do not however, write ourselves off on a regular basis. In fact, I havent been drunk since I had my children. I am drinking a lovely Pinot Noir Chardonnay sparkling wine tonight. And it is very enjoyable.

If Kate and Gerry and their friends want to enjoy a good wine while on holidays, well then good on them. It is an exageration on the part of Viv and her fool friends that they think the McCanns and friends were all pissed that night. Once again, drawing conclusions, stating them as fact when all they have is a couple of spurios articles in the portugese press, that have been contradicted by other articles inthe portugese press.

And I really do get a laugh out of the Vile and friends ability to read so much into a single picture. Do they not realise how pathetic it makes them? Obviously not, as they are clearly being driven like lemmings over a cliff.

Mandz said...

Hi All,
Just had a bit of a chuckle at that article! There is no “perfect” parent we all do things differently and our children are all unique and different therefore what works for one parents does not necessarily mean that it will work for another.
People bring up children with their own values and beliefs and culture etc Most people will have a great great gran who sent her children out to work because it was the “done thing” culture society however was she a bad parent – NO it was acceptable in society –the done thing. The divide is even greater from Country to Country therefore who are we to tell them how to bring a child up and vice versa.

I remember people on the DX anti who went on and on about how dreadful it was to send your child to a kids club everyday etc however some children love these places and I assume it gave the parents a bit of time to charge their batteries etc I have never sent my children to a kids club not because I disagree with them but because I don’t holiday in complexes where this services is offered however I know of people who do. I would never dream of pointing the finger at another parent who chooses to send their children to a kids club. How would I know what is BEST for another family and their children??

Then out came the “perfect parents” who always started their post off with…. I would never dream of doing this and when my family go on holiday we eat sleep and play together bla bla bla etc well so bloody what does that make them any better than anyone else? When I holiday with my family we are together most of the time and I must admit it can be hard work with young children and draining at times. If there was a kids club I would use it because I know my kids would love this. They love their independence away from their parents in an environment where they can choose what they want to do and mum is not there telling them. It would also give them a chance to meet other children. I see this at the beech a lot with my kids who look out for other children to meet and play with.

The people who sit their bumping their gums and pointing their finger about what other parents from (all nationalities) should do should get a life and try and understand that we have our own values beliefs culture etc therefore there are bound to be differences.

dianeh said...

HI Mandz

When we go to the local club, my kids always go into the creche. They absolutely love it. Better than hanging around with Mum.

I used to work on an island resort and I can tell you that the kids club there was extremely popular and the kids loved it. they got to holiday with kids their own age, with activities to do all day, everyday and still get to have meals etc with their parents, of if they want, go to the beach, or on a boat trip etc etc, with their parents.

Kids deserve holidays as well, and a well run kids club gives them a feeling of independence on their holiday, instead of being with Mum and Dad every minute.

Those that criticise parents for using a kids club are just looking for something to criticise or else have not had the benefits of a kids club and therefore imagine that the kids dont enjoy it. Nothing better than having Mum and Dad and the kids all enjoying their holidays, so I say, bring on the kids club, let the kids have a holiday they really like.

kiwigirl said...

Hi Diane, much like yourself I never blogged like this until just very recently - who has the time, and much like you my time is limited to sneaking on at the weekend, usually when children are 'helping' their daddy in the garage, or in the evening. hence the reason I get to make two or three post and then I have to leave!

It's 9.45pm here now and with the end of daylight savings has come the end of our 'Indian Summer'. Hubby is off to bed, and I must admit to not being far off it myself, work in the morning!

However, I think the other thing that really galls me about viv's site is the way they go on and on about poor parenting and how Kate and Gerry were 'bad parents' because they left the kids at creche etc etc while on holiday. You might be on holiday but you still need some down time and some 'me' time.

With the number of perfect parents we have on viv's site I'm surprised they're not co-operating and writing a book on the subject! Hell, it would be a best seller in no time, and then there'd be no excuse for poor parenting - it'll be bye bye Dr Green, Diane Levy, Kaz Cooke etc etc and hello viv et al! God help us.

Although, ( it just occurred to me and eyes light up) that that could be her next career - Super Perfect Parent (SPP) and she could go into people's homes and tell them what they are doing wrong, and film it all so she could take it to Social Services if they didn't listen to her. My god, the offshoots of this coudl be huge, endorsing the perfect foods for children, the perfect clothing etc etc....it's limitless!

melbel said...

Morning Mandz
Well said. We and our children,are all unique and different folk and cultures,have very different ideas.
The clubs exist, because there is a demand for them and children enjoy the activities and contact with other people.
The poor wee soul,said to her mummy and daddy, that she had really enjoyed the day.
I would also support my local cardiologist or my local anyone,having the odd timeout, to recharge batteries and have a bit of time with adult friends.
Parents, who can never, ever, contemplate their children,being separated from them,to do their own activities, which they enjoy, have a severe problem themselves and it is often their own needs and not the child's needs, that are paramount,imho.

dianeh said...

Kiwi

Well said.

But you had better be careful, you are probably giving that demented lunatic her next career move.

kiwigirl said...

If we ever get the chance to get away on holiday when the prices are good - prices always go up over the school holidyas - then we'd go where they had a kids club. Friends of ours recently went to Fiji and their kids just loved the kids club.

Littlies don't want to hang with mum and dad all day and do boring things they want to run around and play with kids their own age, not be stuck doing grown up things all day every day. Parents need time out too and sometimes they need time out during the day to do their own thing and to be their own person again. Some might call it selfish, I call it reasonable and sensible.

helenm said...

Mandz,

Would that be 'bumping their gums' 'whilst chewing a wasp'


OR

'bumping their gums' 'like a demented wasp in a mild bottle'!!!!ROTFLOL

dianeh said...

Melbel

I would like to repeat something I said earlier.

On Gerry the Heart surgeon. I have had some experience with a senior heart surgeon and the one I was lucky enough to get (for my 3 week old daughter) was recognised as probably the best in Aust in dealing with tiny babies. He was a very focused person and all business. How can anyone operate on a 3 week old baby and not feel anything, yet he came across as caring but totally in control. As I was handing over my baby and crying my eyes out, the nurse was also getting teary but the surgeon was terrific. He told me "I will look after her" and you know I believed him.

Apparently the intensity in this man is reflected in many other aspects of his life. He jogs daily and follows the Pritiken diet and has done for years. He starts work at 6 am for first surgery at 7 am and often works late into the night. The nurses in Paediatric Intensive Care had nothing but praise
for him, including that he was a devoted family man and found time for his family as well. They tell me that they would have no one but him operate on them for heart problems.

To be a heart surgeon you must be focused, determined, articulate, as well as incredibly intelligent. Gerry is all of these things and he applies these skills to his search for Madeleine as well as to his practice.

Yet Stupid Viv and her cronies dont seem to understand that and sees something sinister in the way he is. I bet if it was her or her baby being operated on, she would be glad that Gerry has these qualities. He is all that stands between life and death for many people.

I owe my girl's life to a heart surgeon like Gerry and I am sure there are many people in Britain who owe their own lives or the lives of a loved one to Gerry himself.

dianeh said...

Now I must bid you good night.

My partner has told me to get off the computer. I think he wants a bit of 'us' time.

So hopefully will catch up tomorrow morning for a quick hello.

take care everyone.

melbel said...

Bye all.Off to pack now and see you later. Take care, you silent majority.When I think about it,apart from one or two exceptions [and they know who they are ,we are dealing with some very strange people,in the antis.]
What person,in their right mind,now that the forensic evidence and dog sniffing, have been shown to be totally inconclusive, would write for months, on a hate blog?
Vile was cornered into throwing her last card into the ring,last night,in saying that because the Portugese and UK Police,have put so much money and resources, into this, they must have a case and therefore the McCs are guilty.
Vile is quite unequivocal, with no wriggle room for thinking,in any way,that there could be doubt about the couple being involved in her disappearance and actually,has written on many occasions,that she thinks they killed her.
Oh deary, me, it should be an easy matter,for you to be sued, blogboss.
I am off now to pack and to buy my Sunday Observer and Sunday times,to read the article in SO,in more detail.
In my quick read of it, there seems to be no suggestion, of the Mccs being thought guilty,just handwringing from the PJ sources, re the questions and inconsistencies.
I have thought about it all ways,PJ and after all these months of delay at your end, you are simply going to have to get these questions asked and why has it taken you so long ?
I believe the majority of Portugese people, like everywhere, will be fairminded and decent[in spite of the efforts of most of those on grannybashers.]
I was struck by the comments of several Portugese posters,Lux being an example, talking about dark forces, in Portugal and a David and Goliath struggle.They seem to not trust their politicians, in a different way to the way we can get naffed off, about ours.
Just a thought.
Have a good day, folks and take care.Switching off now x x x

Mandz said...

Hi DianeH! Melbel!

I agree it is great for the whole family everyone is on holiday including the parents. I’m sure people would not force their children to go. The “club” I’m sure would be similar to a nursery where if the child was distressed they would contact the parents to come and collect them. My children get bored hanging around with mum and dad all day they constantly look for other children to play with! It’s funny when I used to collect my child from nursery she would come out with “attitude” which was because she was making the decisions for herself and doing what she wanted to do and not me around telling her what she is to do etc!!

Melbel!
Yes that’s right the wee soul said she had the best day every. Oh gosh that breaks my heart.
Exactly everyone is on holiday and parents need time out! Children need their independence because they will go off to School and they will need these skills.

Mandz said...

Helen!!

'bumping their gums' 'like a demented wasp in a mild bottle'!!!!ROTFLOL

Ha..Exactly!!!!

kiwigirl said...

Night all! Hubby now disappeared to bed and is off to the gym at 5.30am (grimace!) so am flying solo on Monday morning duty!

Have a great day, and look forward to reading you all tomorrow!

melbel said...

Diane, just a quick reply.I am glad it turned out well, for your child and what a thing to go through.!We should be so thankful for the focus and skills of these people.This is in no way being deferential, per se.
Gerry and Kate, apparently came from ordinary and not privileged homes and have spent their lives, looking after other people.
Gerry sounds like a very focused person to me, with support for him and Kate, from excellent friends and family.
I lived next door to a doctor once and asked him,why he never flapped.
he said that he would be no use to people if he did.
I know it is a degree different, when it is your own child and they will have had many times,when they have collapsed in a heap. They have had good friends and family, to pick them up though and have remained strong and dignified, throughout.x

Mandz said...

Bye All....Have a good day/night!

Christabel said...

Interesting article from the People.

http://www.people.co.uk/news/tm_headline=kate-and-gerry-mccann-to-be-cleared%26method=full%26objectid=20374236%26siteid=93463-name_page.html

Sass said...

Hiya

Just on troll patrol before going to Slovenia for the rest of the afternoon. Glad you liked the article! I posted it because of all the ridiculous comments by the people who are so theoretically perfect! Particularly hysterical from some people whose kids only give them "reluctant hugs" when they come out of hospital or people whose only responsibility is a cat.

To all of you who are bugged by comments on Vile's about your own parenting skills - look who is doing the criticising (that certainly puts it into perspective) and forget it!

archer said...

Hiya all

Sassy - a very down to earth and balanced article. I know I am not a perfect mum, but I do my best....and guess what? Years ago I put my child in the Big T club whilst on holiday...and guess what again Each day after breakfast she would be constantly asking, "Is it time to go to the club yet?" She loved it.

The People appear to be very supportive and sympathetic to Kate and Gerry today.

http://www.people.co.uk/news/eammonholmes/

China - ref your 0146hrs link, an interesting read, thank you.

(Yeehah - did I just copy and paste!!!)

Popping in and out taxi-ing again today!

One day and counting.

Have a great day all.

calcite51 said...

Diane - your comment must have been deleted and Vile's response to it. Did you call them morons? They kind of resent any comment with a grain of thruth in it. Can't find it. Just consider the source and the blog that made the answer.

Tinkerbell43 said...

What makes me laugh in all this, Kate and Gerry have never said they were perfect parents and although criticised for it, WE, have never said they were perfect parents either.

They are 2 parents, who's biggest crime imo was being too trusting. They have since been trying to do what they think is right in the search for their beautiful daughter, against all the obstacles may I add.

As Kate and Gerry once said, this is not about them, it is about Madeleine and they will take everything that is thrown at them and by god have they.

I have nothing but admiration for them.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Just popping in on Troll Patrol, in the middle of cooking dinner.

Hope everyone is having a good Sunday, its freezing here, with heavy prolonged snow showers.

Quite right Archer, one day and counting, BRING IT ON.

Rosiepops said...

Diane

I have replied to you on Supertroll's too.

Viv is so eaten up with rage and jealousy, I cannot imagine how normal people that post regularly on viv's vile site do not see it, but then I think that there are relatively few normal people who do post on that site. I tried the other day to start at least to bring an end to these blog wars, but that was a complete waste of time, I will not be trying again.

Diane, anyone can see that you are a good, kind caring person and an excellent parent, that comes across in your posts.

Nobody is a perfect parent and anyone that says they are is a liar, we all of us make mistakes. I know I have, I have made plenty and I am not afraid to admit it, I have never been one for smacking my children, but that is not to say that they haven't nearly driven me up the wall (and down the other side).

People that think they are perfect parents are a danger to society, because they usually also think their children can do no wrong too. These are the ones that usually end up so damaged that they have a hell of a life of their own, you see them on street corners, mummy's little soldiers who can do no wrong, yet there they are intimidating elderly people, attacking people and filming it, these are the ones that usually get ASBOS slapped on them for all kinds of anti social behaviour, while their perfect parents are at home, not knowing where their perfect children are.

Strange thing is a lot of these people own parrots!

archer said...

Notdoc's surgery is now open.

Form an orderley queue.

:¬))

Mandz said...

Hi All hope all well,

John McCann explains in an interview that it was his sister who advised Gerry to contact the media right away because a policeman told her this was the best way.

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=3533557196802846991&postID=5783015217199141854

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John McCann: There's no evidence that she's dead. And that's what gives us hope.
Hope kept alive by not forgetting. At six months missing, a mass in Madeleine’s honor was said in the Portuguese church where the McCanns had looked for solace months before.
Home in England, the couple went to church to mark the sad occasion.
At Christmas, the child not at the hearth was the subject of a McCann family appeal.

Video


A stranger in the night
The McCann family wants to know more about a man who was seen with a child the night Madeleine disappeared.
Dateline NBC

Through the early fall, meanwhile, the Portuguese authorities had continued to leak theories about how Madeleine McCann had died. Now it wasn't a sleeping pill overdose. It was a tumble down the stairs leading from the couple's apartment that had killed the child.
The cops were looking desperate.
Clint Van Zandt: What they don't want to do is say we don't know where to look. Anybody else got any ideas? They have they have to solve this and some would say they have to pin this on somebody.
On October second, the chief detective of the Madeleine McCann search was removed from the investigation and reassigned to another district. He had reportedly been the driving force behind the case against the McCanns.
The Portuguese investigation appeared to be back where it started-- with the new chief detective going back to the resort complex, re-interviewing old witnesses and searching again for lost clues.
Some would say it's been a total bust: from the botched crime-scene investigation, to the resources spent in pursuit of the helpful translator who lived a few blocks away, to the squeeze put on the McCanns themselves that fizzled when a Portuguese judge looked at the hundreds of hours of police work and mountains of documents and said, in effect, you have nothing.

archer said...

Mandz

Hi - re that link, can't get it. The blog id is pretty much ours minus last 4 digits??

Thanks

Rosiepops said...

Hi Mandz,

The reason they have nothing is of course because there is nothing to be had, the McCann's are innocent.

The PJ have messed up big time, Tubby Gonc gambled big time and lost and instead of the new PJ Paulo Rebelo coming in and stopping this farcical accusations of the parents and these bizarre allegations and the absurd character assassinations of the McCann's, he just allowed it all to continue and it is a disgrace and looked extremely bad for Portugal.

archer said...

Hi Rosie/Mandz

Agreed, but they were looking for 'returns' on their financial investigative investments'. The only way they were going to get that IMO was by hauling Kate or Gerry in. Tubby's lunch expenses also had to be justified!!

Evidence - goodness me, what's that?

Mandz said...

Hi Archer!
Sorry about that!!

Here it is:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23436596/page/6

Rosiepops said...

Hi Tinks


Great post and spot on. The McCann's have been dignified and unwavering in their search for their daughter.

They have taken all the slurs and innuendos and bizarre stories leaked from PJ 'sources'. they have been effectively gagged by the PJ and Portugal's archaic secrecy laws, they have been unable to explain what has really happened, while the PJ and the Portuguese press has had a field day with this.

Dreadfully unfair and this looks really bad on Portugal.

The PJ are supposed to be here tomorrow, let's see if it happens.

But what good will these interviews be?

After nearly 8 months of the PJ bleating on and on about the McCann's not answering their questions.

1) The Portuguese judge has said there is no evidence to grant re interviewing them.

2) Sop the McCann's off to be re interviewed by the PJ when they are over and apparently the PJ have declined!

Nice one PJ, part of the top five elite police in the world?

You jest of course?

Mandz said...

Hi Rose & Archer!

Rosie hope all is going well.

I agree with you both they have a big fat 0 and as for tubbies lunch expenses!!!

They should have got wise and released them immediately from this pathetic status and made a public apology however the fact that they have not is beyond comprehension. The have allowed the real CRIMINAL/Z TO GET OFF SCOT FREE – UNFORGIVABLE UNBELIEVABLE AND SICK***

archer said...

Mandz

This whole debacle has been about what 'should have been'.

Something tells me the pj don't do 'apologies', so I for one won't be holding my breath.

It is no consolation whatsoever to Kate and Gerry, but Portugal has to live with this shame.

Mandz said...

Well Archer they can shove their Tourist Industry..!

Rosiepops said...

"In February, the Portuguese authorities quietly amended their theory of the case, admitting the police had been "hasty" in making the McCanns that word--"arguidos," suspects.

It's back to abduction by person or persons unknown."


What are the PJ doing today?

1) preparing to come to the UK for some useless futile visit?

2) Actually looking for Madeleine, by hunting down some of the leads they have toally ignored?

3) Nothing?

Time for the PJ to turn over the files of this case to the British police and let them take over.

calcite51 said...

Well, I'm meeting a friend for lunch so I'm off the computer for a while.

Now, Vile, don't get wild up - my two children will have to do without me for a while (oh, didn't you know - they're beyond the age of needing minding)!

You are a foolish, silly lady, Vile.

Melbel, Rosie, Jojam, kiwigirl - thanks for sticking up for Diane - she doesn't need the kind of nonsense from Vile.

Vile, clean up that poor parrot's cage - it's disgusting.

Mandz said...

Yes Rosie HAND OVER THE CASE TO PEOPLE WHO ARE PROFESSIONAL AND WILL INVESTIGATE THIS MISSING CHILD.

A complete WASTE OF TIME spent on what was it??? A gut feeling?? their wives ?? Come ON....

What did they say about Diane?

Tinkerbell43 said...

Well we are now hours away from the PJ leaving to come to the UK, its times for Arsabliar to stop hanging on to their legs and kissing their feet!

Come on PJ, you may be 11 months too late but we are ready and waiting for your final instalment. Lets see what you've got!

Mandz said...

Wish they were flying into an airport near me I would take some eggs.........

Tinkerbell43 said...

Diane,

I see your parenting skills have been questioned by the evil one. Evil being a very apt anagram of TW.

She who is divorced from all reality and has to google her professions. How sad is that!

The woman is absolutely clueless, and if any of her posters had any balls they would be the first to say it. Children do these type of things and anyone that says they dont is a blatant liar.

The woman is just taking cheap pot shots and trying to make something out of nothing which is par for the course with her.

I hope you had a good laugh, lol.

Sass said...

Hiya

It's because of the pot shots taken at people here by the vile one and her cronies that I posted today's article - I'm glad it went down well.

Like Helen I find the part:

"The deepest-held pathologies are often borne by those least willing to admit the first imperfection. Their guise of effortless happiness is a thin veil trying to mask the worst elements of human behavior."

exceedingly fitting!

Mum21 said...

Good evening Everyone.
I have not been on here for a couple of days....had hubby home. te he he.

I notice the 3A's have no time for 2345....and gave her a hard time over her comments regarding the Government. Pity Viv does not see through her too.

Talking of Viv....and her comment over Diana's parenting skills. To be perfectly honest Viv really does not have a clue. She has shown herself up time and time again....and anyone with the slightest bit of sense can see that for themselves. Her attack on Diane were the words of a jealous, lonely, bitter and twisted woman.
As for Viv's career...Every little tit bit of advice she gives regarding the law you can find word perfect online. But I have to hand it to her, she excels at one thing...COPY & PASTE.

I am a great animal lover and my home and garden is a wildlife sanctuary. It is home to Wild ducks, Moorhens, plus my own collection of water birds. They roam free in my large garden and have the use of two very large wildlife ponds. They are not caged in...and neither are they penned in. Birds are born with wings to fly...and flying is their natural means of moving around. To cage them up is cruel. It is like giving them a lifetime of imprisonment. Anyone who wishes to keep birds as pets should provide them with a large aviary that has an outdoor and indoor flight. The outdoor flight should be planted with small trees to allow the birds to fly freely. I have a friend who adores parrots...and has five of them. All five are housed in a very large aviary with an outdoor flight.
I may not be an expert at law...and neither do I profess to be a probation officer. But I AM an EXPERT on animals and wildlife....and to keep a parrot in a cage is CRUEL. And that is a true fact.

Sass said...

Hiya Mum21

I completely agree about keeping birds caged up. Not natural - just cruel. I love animals and would never have a caged bird as I just don't believe that they can be happy like that. Don't agree at all with the American system of "crates" for dogs either. Plain selfishness. People have dogs, don't have enough time for them (don't think about that first of course) then the dog gets bored and therefore destructive. The answer to this problem in the US? Stick your dog in a cage for 8 hours till you get home!!! How cruel is that - complete selfishness.

Also agree with the way Vile comes over - bitter and twisted. To say her bleugh is dedicated to the protection of children is just an insult.

Mum21 said...

I see according to Sky News the PJ are expected to arrive around lunch time tomorrow. I hope they know you do not get extended lunch breaks over here.
I also see on Sky news that the McCann's friends are being interviewed as witnesses only....and no lawyers will be required. Neither are any items due to be confiscated.
Bit different to what they have been claiming on Viv's blog. As per usual...they got it wrong.

By the way...the avatar is one of my ducks. It is a Fulvous Tree Duck and I call her Judy.

Mum21 said...

Hi Sass,
Hope you are well.

I know what you mean about dogs in the US. My two labradors rule this house...not the other way around. te he he.
I love all animals....the same as you do.

Mum21 said...

Sass. In my book how a person treats an animal is how they treat a child.
I feel very sorry for Viv's children.

Sass said...

Mum21

I'm fine thanks. It sounds like a great garden you have there.

Dad always says that having a animal around makes a place more human! As you say the way you treat animals says one awful lot about your character.

At the dogs' home there is a woman I didn't get along with at all. She was always making snidey comments about me.

However, after having seen the way she dealt with a totally traumatised dog I thought she can't be that bad a person after all. She was brilliant with him - running around (and she's not the youngest) and playing with him and stroking him (he's never had any of that before and he completely trusts her, so she's done really well with him). She calls him "my little scaredy cat".

I think it worked both ways because she has stopped the stupid comments and we get on quite well now.

My opinion of her changed completely when I saw that. Anyone who is nice to animals gets my vote!

JANEGT said...

MUM, SASS, TINKS, MANDZ

GOOD EVENING....

Yes, animals need freedom and they know who loves them and who doesn't... they are very sensitive caring beings....not that that would be seen by vile. I do hope she does not have children o they would be kept in the garden hut at best, locked.

Oh dear

;o(((((

Yes, they got their facts wrong, nt for the first time eiter. I noticed 2345 on V's site today still stating this afternoon about '100% DNA evidence' aarrgh.

drives me nuts. So ridiculous. She clearly cannot read nor understand this is totally out of order to post this lie. Again and again and aaaaarrrrrrgggggghhhhhh.

They are alo picking perfumes. How apt. Very On topic....NOT!!!

love the new avatar Mum, worth waiting for.

Mum21 said...

Hi Jane.
Want to see another one of my new avatars?

JANEGT said...

yes please mum

which anmal species would this be???

;o)

Tinkerbell43 said...

I cannot believe some posters are now criticising Gerry and Kate for not being here while the interviews are taking place. Why ?

They offered to be interviewed, it was DECLINED.

If they are going to question anyone, why aren't they questioning the PJ for not interviewing them. I for one am disappointed that they aren't.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Sorry, Evening All :0)

JANEGT said...

OH TNKERBELL

You know by now they cannot do wrong for doing wrong no matter what.....they are constantly criticised fr things they haven't even done at all.......they cannot win no matter what. It is so sad.

Can't wait, as isn't it tomorrow we 'will recognise him when we see him' .....???? ha ha ha ha ha

NOT!!!!!!

day return via tube from SA? Course!!

Mum21 said...

Jane...this is Jimmy. He is a Ringed Teal

JANEGT said...

evening Tinks

How are you today? A little better?

hope so

Sass said...

Hiya Tinks and Jane!

How you two doing? It was lovely and warm here today - loads of sun and no jackets needed. Please don't tell me it was cold in your parts of the world! :-)

JANEGT said...

ha ha ha MUM

that ringed teal makes me laugh instantly. Like it. How unusual. I know this is impossible, but it has a 'cheeky face'....... ;o)))))

Sass said...

Tinks

I should think so, young lady!

JANEGT said...

OH SHURRUP SASSSSSSSS!!!!

Here we are with snow lying today, more expected tomorrow and you are crowing about warmth??? I have central heating full on and big jumper too. Oh dear.

I am just jealous....... ;o)))

Mum21 said...

Jane...he is cheeky. He comes up and taps the patio doors demanding tit bits of bread

JANEGT said...

Mum21

I can quite believe it. A teal with personality. I like Jimmy. I have never heard of a teal before. Your garden and surroundings sound really idyllic - you are so lucky.

Mum21 said...

We had heavy snow here too today. Most unexpected.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Sass, its brass monkeys. We have had prolonged snow showers and more of the same is forecasted for tomorrow.

As Jane would say its Freeeeezing!

Sass said...

Jane

I know you are! Oh me oh my that wasn't my intention at all!

Christabel said...

Evening all,

Ah Ah Jane, day return via tube from SA? Course!!

day return via UTUBE more like.
Sorry shouldn't laugh at the afflicted, they know not what they do.

JANEGT said...

too late Sass

gotta go open that red wine now.......in a huff n puff

Oh dear.

;o(((((

Mum21 said...

I am lucky Jane...very lucky.
We have lived here over 25 years now...and my husband and I both love it.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Evening Christabel,

I was thinking more along the lines of the camera's paning round and catching a brief glimpse of a slug on the sidewalk.

Sass said...

You do that Jane while I sit here and sweat in the evening heat. (Slight exaggeration there!)

JANEGT said...

Hi CHRISTABEL

good one, u tube fits him down to a tee.

Sass has made me reach for the wine. So upset that I m here in big cardi, full central heaing, ffffrrrreeeeeeeezing, and she gloats. so Medicinal Wine calls. Off to find an opener somewhere.

back in 5 and will bring the crisps. Daughter made me buy a multipack of Walkers Baked Mango and Chilli and amazingly I like them. I will pass them round, as there are 5 packets left. I ate one. ha ha ha ha

catch you in 5...........

no wine or crisps for Sass she has made me jealous...... ;o)(((

Sass said...

Tinks!

ROFLMAO

Sass said...

Hi Christabel! How ya doing?

Jane - that's fine. It's more ice-cream weather anyway!

archer said...

Hiya humans

quack quack to Judy and Jimmy lol

Road gritters have just gone up the road:¬((

I have just been on SuperTrolls site and read the atrocious snarlings from the other planet aimed at Diane. Diane, I hope you are not giving it another thought. They are obviously feeling threatened by you. Anyone with half a brain can see what is going on there.

Jane - who will we recognise when we see???

helenm said...

Good evening girls,

Hope you have not been too cold today! I was thinking of you all (apart from Sassy) whilst sitting on PDL beach with a friend and her grandchildren. We really should have taken a brolly with us as it was................................


TOO HOT!!!

Jane, just visited ST's site POISSON!!!! oh how apt.

Someone had pasted a post from Gina regarding her policeman friends, you should all take a look. I think the other blog posters on TWS could do with taking a leaf out of his book.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Sass, you have to go to the other blog if you want to exaggerate!

Sass said...

Hiya Our 'ell!

I suppose with weather like that you can have your backside exposed like that!

Mum21 said...

Tinks,
Anyone ever seen a slug with a stethascope round his neck? te he he

Sass said...

Hi there Archer.

How ya doing?

Tinkerbell43 said...

Mum, ROFLMAO

helenm said...

Mum, love Jimmy.

Archer glad to see you have renounced the crown.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi Helen & Archer,

Let the countdown begin.....

Christabel said...

Hi Sass,
fine thanks really busy though at the mo.
You know things to do people to see!

Hope your ok Jane, Tinks, Archer and anyone else I missed.

Mum21 said...

Hi Helen,
I am sooooooooo pleased (not) that it was too hot.
here it is freezing and we have had thick snow.

Christabel said...

Helen, sorry missed you off lol .

Was it you mentioned someone working for M3 last night, that had been arrested ?

JANEGT said...

hi helen

no don't say it, not again. no no no no

archer
docrot said we 'would know him when we saw him' instantly, as he will be here ....doing what he does. etc etc etc

as he is supposedly in SA I said perhaps he just got on tube to come over and Christabel said yeah. 'u tube' more like ha ha ha ha. hmmmm. He has been warning us something was about to happen and 'nearly' posted us to tell us, but as our site had gone by invitation only he 'sadly could not' let us know this important information.

believe that, and the moon is made out of green or is it blue cheese.......

Mum21 said...

Excuse me Christabel...but you missed me off too.
Now I am sulking. :-)

archer said...

Hiya

It's flipping fffffreeezing here!

Mum - I have just realised who it is that will be recognised - the stethascope gave it away:¬)

Helen - my Leige, your high expectations made me nervous. I gladly relinquished the crown.lol

Bring it on....of course that in itself will open a whole new load of bulls*it!!

helenm said...

Hi Christabel,
Yes, some working for Metodo3 is awaiting trial for drug trafficking, apparently the offence was 2/3 years ago.

Mum21 said...

Jane...he said we would know him when we saw him?
Oh drat...I saw him this afternoon running across a road in the snow....but I thought it was just a common rat. So I shot him. te he he

Christabel said...

OH my god mum,
I am so sorry hail mum! hail mum! hail mum!
Now is that ok ?

Helen,
don't know if you knew but he is actually wait for it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AN EX PJ.

JANEGT said...

bbbrrrrrrrrrrr

just got corkscrew from kitchen and can't defrost my fingers now. I am shaking with cold. eeeek. This isn't funny at all.

Have a crisp folks. I will open the wine. Helen and Sass get half a glass each coz they are ssooooo annoying to us. Basking in such heat whilst we are in deep freeze conditions.

Here you are. Jeeves, my butler, is on his way round to you all.

Mum21 said...

Christabel...do one more hail mum...and all is forgiven.

helenm said...

Christabel, well I never! Why doesn't it surprise me?

Christabel said...

HAIL MUM,
AND ONE FOR THE POT HAIL MUM.
Blimey my nose will be browner than docrots all this creeping.

Mum21 said...

Jane..could you make mine a Pepsi please?
Thank you

Christabel said...

Have a cup of tea please Mrs Doyle.

helenm said...

Thankyou so much Jane, what flavour is the CRISP that you have sent me?

Mum21 said...

You can't beat a good creep Christabel.
Sorry..that sounds like I was talking about notdoc :-)

helenm said...

Mum, your Jimmy is one handsome fella, is he real? or do you play with him in the bath?

Mum21 said...

Helen..Did you get a whole CRISP?
I only got half a one.

I think Jane is stuffing into 4 packets.

Christabel said...

Yeh mum,
but ya milked it didn't you.

DO NOT mention me in the same post as the THING please !

Mum21 said...

Helen, He is real and he has a teal wife called Jenny. Last year they had 7 babies too.

dianeh said...

Good morning everyone.

Just popped on to say hello and see what you have been up to.

Fairly quiet I see.

I am just trying to fit in an extra half hour of work this morning but have to stop in a minute to get the kids dressed to take to Nanas. But that is probably neglect as well, since I have to work, so Nana looks after them.

Just to let you know as well. I dont care what that fool says about my parenting skills, after all who listens to a fool. My beef is that she has taken an innocent story (not addressed to her either) and drawn a conclusion that is not even close to the truth because she cant possible know the truth about my home and situation. This is exactly what she has done with the McCanns. There is no other way to say, she just makes it all up.

helenm said...

Mum, so someone WAS playing in the water, just not necessarily you!!LOL

Mum21 said...

Ho Diane.
What you have to remember is...all the time she is talking about you...she is leaving others alone.
So you are the hero.

JANEGT said...

JEEVES on way with pot of tea and some pepsi

the half and one whole crisp was walkers baked mango and chilli.

;o)))))

I had forgotten the Mrs Doyle scenario. STUBB IT OUT GALS. NOT ALLOWED IN THIS PUBLIC BLOG.

HELEN
PLEASE PULL UP YOUR BREEKS, IT'S MAKING ME NEED THE LOO ALL THE TIME IN THIS CLIMATE. BE A DEAR NOW PUT SOMETHING 'DECENT' ON..

Mum21 said...

Oh yes, Helen,
The ducks certainly know how to play. te he he

Christabel said...

I have found you all somewhere to visit lol.

http://www.invernessonline.com/docmac/

Jane has been here.

Sass said...

Diane

Good for you Diane. It's herself she is showing up - noone else!

archer said...

Diane

Hi. You call them 'fools'. I think that's very generous of you. I would call them something that would be unprintable, so I will just think it.

Have a good day won't you?

Sass said...

http://www.helium.com/items/815088-
dictionary-definition-parent-begets

Funny link for you all!

JANEGT said...

diane

GOOD EVENING 2221 hrs HERE AND MORNING TO YOU

DON'T WORRY, WE HAVE ALL HAD TASTE OF HER VENOM. SHE DOES NOT CONFUSE HER RANTS WITH TRUTHS, OR EVEN BASIC HUMANITY. JOIN THE ELITE CLUB ....WE'VE ALL BEEN GOT AT TOO JUST DON'T LET HER BOTHER YOU. After all, just look at the company she keeps = all raving loonies.

HELEN,

so WAS THE m3 ACCUSED OF DRUG SMUGGLING OR WHATEVER, AN EX pj? I hadn't read that bit.

Sass said...

Jane went there on a pilgrimage. She bought the T-shirt and the slides, too!

archer said...

Christabel

Nice place! Oh no - what are the chances of that?????

JANEGT said...

AWWWWW Sass

I forgive you now that you have such a sweet avatar.

Christabel said...

Archer,
mmm might be his mom lol.

archer said...

Sass

Are they one and the same?

Gorgeous. (avatar)

archer said...

Christabel

Who can we 'nominate' to do a reccy?

Someone that's smart, witty, oh and near?????

Let's think! lol

Sass said...

Archer

No, they're not. They are just pictures I found on the Internet!

Sass said...

Archer / Jane

Glad you like the avatar!

Everyone - am dead on my feet. Night and see you tomorrow!
x

Mum21 said...

Night Sass,
Sleep well and God Bless.

archer said...

Goodnight Sass

Sleep well.

Let's see what the morrow brings?? pj perhaps??

Tinkerbell43 said...

Nite Sass, I'm off too everyone.

Hope to see you all tomorrow.

Take care xxx

archer said...

Jane

Oh Jane. Got a little job for you????? lol

archer said...

Night Tinks

Take carexx

Christabel said...

Archer,

its got to be jane,she is ideal for it lol.
I can picture her now.

helenm said...

Archer,
You rang? I believe you eant someone smart and witty? you must be talking bout me but I don't know where I fit in with Inverness?


Goodnight Sassy an Tinks, sleep well.

Jane, re Metodo3 I can't find a link but will look mane.

Christabel said...

Nite and Bless tinks and sass xx

Christabel said...

helen,
can't find proper version

Fifty-five year old Antonio J.R. - who is working for Metodo 3 on the investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann - was working in the post of Chief Inspector of the Drug and Organised Crime Unit in Barcelona when the crime occurred. He had left the police going to work directly for the Metodo 3 agency at the same time as the internal services had begun to investigate the disappearance of 400kg of cocaine out of a total of one and a half tons and which had been found on a boat from Venezuela.

archer said...

Christabel

Ideal, don't you think?

If she was smart enough she could check it out by phone!

I think the personal touch would be better. A little chat over a cup of tea!!! A quick glance around for the family photo's! lol

I can see it now. :¬))

JANEGT said...

good night sass and tinks

sleep well

Don't wrry about the link Helen just was the M3 an ex PJ? I did read about th drugs stuff.

and by the way bugger Inverness. It's as far away as you can get from me and I am fffffrozen enough here without making it worse up there. ha ha ha

Anyway, god knows what I could catch. And. I certainly don't want 'treated' by anyone remotely named like that. Or their Mum or whatever. Heaven forfend. I opt out. I recommend Helen. hee hee she needs to be 'cool' here as she is too hot over there. Just look at her outfit....!!!!

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!

Christabel said...

archer,

you are naughty, "but I like you".

Mum21 said...

Good Night All.
I am off now too. It has been a busy weekend and I am shattered.
Let us hope there is some news this week.
Talk to you all tomorrow.

archer said...

Jane

Think of it as a mission!

Christabel's 2220hrs post.

lol

archer said...

Goodnight Mumx

Speak soon.

Christabel said...

oh jane,
go on be a devil lol.
You can tell us then why he's adored in the pit.

archer said...

Jane

Calm yourself. This is for the honour of your country!

Sleep on it. :¬))

Christabel said...

nite and bless mum xx

Christabel said...

Hey jane,

this should be a blogging honour lol.

JANEGT said...

good night and bless Mum21

sweet dreams

the day has come
at last

speak soon take care

JANEGT said...

huh

I'll give you a blogging honour.....

no no no !!!


Anyway, can't 'neglect' my child can I? Can't drive in this snow and don't live near station. No buses for miles and miles so it will need to be Helen. She can buy new pair of trousers or skirt when she's at it.

;o) ;o) ;o)

archer said...

I would be more than happy to do it, but being realistic, I am not even in the same country.

Jane - doesn't that put it into perspective for you.

We could give you a wonderfully mysterious codename!! or you could choose it if you want!!

Christabel said...

Helen would be no good Jane,
in that out fit either her butt would freeze or they would spot her a mile off.

Your simply the best lol.
Hands up for Jane ?

archer said...

Sorry Helen

Didn't mean to ignore you...I thought it was Jane that replied. lol

Well if you want a mission in Inverness - it's yours! :¬))

JANEGT said...

It has to do with a certain person I am not only not in same country as, I am not on same planet as...so will politely have to decline the kind offer on this occasion.

Helen is better equipped for this task, and she needs to shop for new clothes to cover her nether regions before they are examined unnecessarily......by you know who. I volunteer Helen unanimously.

good

that's it decided then and I am unanimous in this. ;o)))

Christabel said...

Jane,
just had a thought "ouch", you bought new sleeping bags ideal for you.
We won't let him get you will we Archer.?

archer said...

Helen

I'm not sure of your geographical area!!!

The mission is in Inverness.

On information I have, I am voting for Jane! (Nothing against you Helen :¬)

archer said...

Christabel

The woman obviously has no honour! I can see no reason why she can't take her daughter with her. In fact that would probably improve her 'cover'. What say you?

JANEGT said...

ARCHER

HOW THE HELL CAN YOU NOT BE SURE OF HELEN'S GEOGRAPHICAL AREA???

SHE'S FLAUNTING IT NIGHT AFTER NIGHT AFTER NIGHT in her avatar IN THIS COLD WEATHER TOO. PUT IT AWAY ELLS BELLS PUT IT AWAY.

You will get frost bite in it. nasty. Then you will need doctor to massage and inject you for a cure. think of that.

no on 2nd thoughts

DON'T think of that.


bbblllleeeeuuuuuurrrrgh

JANEGT said...

CHRISTABEL

were you a Dick Emery fan? It's just you said to Archer

*You are ....... but I like you!*

I liked him too. ;o))) and adored Les Dawson.

archer said...

Ok ok

You have just proved a point. Smart and witty! Well done Jane.

If you can't be bovvered, just ring in the morning. Say you have been talking to Notdoc, and wondered if they were related!!

Simple, innit.

Christabel said...

Jane,
no didn't like him but the phrase seemed right to use on that post lol.

Jane you have to do this for all your friends here.

JANEGT said...

archer

hey yeah innit but am i bovvered? like? am I? does it reeely mattah? eh? am I? bovvered? huh? no? bovvered? moi? no eh? yeah.

sumfink's jus' comeup gotta go.

see yas in a minit, gotta go to one of my 9 loos or 4 en suites for a mo....to do sumfink......ya know? yeah. r u boverred? back in a mo.....


;o)))


!!!!!

archer said...

lol

Christabel said...

Archer,
who does she think she is Gina ?lol.

Hope you have friends in high places too Jane.

She's not gonna do it is she Archer ?

archer said...

Helen

I apologise for not recognising your avatar. To be honest I thought it was a little Irish Leprechaun! As I told Mum the other day, my poor old eyes don't see so well. I thought her previous avatar was of Barry Mannilow with dogs. I apologised to her as well.!!

archer said...

Christabel

Never say never! lol


No, she isn't, is she!

archer said...

As we say in our part of the world, "She's shellfish" :¬))

Christabel said...

Jane,
you can come out now, we won't make you go, I bet he can be scarey so I can understand even if Archer can't lol.

archer said...

Christabel

Have just put my electric blanket on!!!

Just had a look outside and it is snowing like billyho...

JANEGT said...

archer

inded!!!

just been in kitchen again for another glass of wine from fridge. Why do I bovve? s'cold ennuff hr initt don't need no fffrigging fridge do I? am I bovvered? no.

gulp gulp

not at all ;o)))))))))))))))))

archer said...

Get yer electric on lady. I have. lol

Christabel said...

Archer,
We don't have any snow again yet.
I love my electric blanket, hubby doesn't so I bought one thats got seperate controls, mines on his is off lol.

archer said...

Blanket, that is..

archer said...

Christabel

We are like that too. Hubby is on nightshift tonight so the bed is all mine!! lol

Christabel said...

Jane and Archer,

off now see you tomorrow.
Nite and Bless to you and anyone looking in xx

JANEGT said...

CHRIS thank you FOR relieving me of the task. I do have to clean personally my 9 loos and 4 en suites you see and after that have to taxi daughter in sleeveless outfits in the snow miles away as we are not near bus, train, tube or anything really, Ducks, yes.

am seriouly thinking our pipes miht freeze overnight so am leaving heating on as our water was beaving oddly today. Shower didn't come on properly for ages and ages spurting and blasting....odd. cough, splutter, and heating too od. led radiators as if I know what to do. huh. No I don't but thought I would as air locks came to mind. What do I know though,,,,,nuffink. sadly. I just do not want burst pipes. Oh dear.

Daughter thinks she's going 'camping' tomorrow. which is worse than today by forecast. so no way I feel. we shall see. It is madness. Or, as Clari-ficaton would say, ludicrous. There's a word I will not use in future. At all. Hate it now.

I don't remember being as 'mad' as her when her age? I simply wasn't allowed to be. I don't get it..

but....hey

Am I bovverred?

yes.

she's freaking mental intshe eh? bovverred? moi?


eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkk!

archer said...

Christabel

Goodnight to you too.

Jane I am off as well, Got work tomorrow, though fortunately am doing flexi-time for the next two weeks.

Lets see what tomorrow brings.

Don't expect we will hear much though.

Goodnight dear people. x

JANEGT said...

NO LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO...

JUST had to go and look outside, but no, no snow....yet.

I did hear once that if you are worried you keep your heating and water on low all night to avoid burst pipes so that's what I have done. Who knows. I certainly don't.

It does not look good for tomorrow though so better prepared than not.

archer said...

Jane

Lock her in the house - for her own sanity!!

Bleed the radiators, do you know how to do that? Am expert at that fort of stuff...

Night night.x

JANEGT said...

good night christabel and archer

with that 'refreshing' bloody icy blast ......from front door.......I too am off upstairs. no leccy blanket though. never mind.

I really hope tomorrow is beginning of better things for all in this sad, sad, case..

again, As AnnR used to say

*******MADELEINE*******

'COZ SHE IS WHY WE ARE ALL HERE.

archer said...

Indeed

Night .

Yep, keep heating on low.

Speak tomorrow. x

Really off now, Rugrat has just come in. ON TIME TOO.

JANEGT said...

NIGHT ARCHER

YES, MY DAUGHTER ACCIDENTALLY CAME IN EARLY ONE NIGHT...I NEARLY HAD HEART ATTACK.

I can bleed radiators, but that's it. rest no. Bu... have left heating on all night low to medium. speak o you tomorrow or when you are next on.

Night to you and yours.

take care

;o))

calcite51 said...

viv, oh, viv! Just went to visit your web and I see your kids are sliding down slopes onto a highway. I think that could be child endangerment as it could be very dangerous.

calcite51 said...

Oh, Lord, please save us from the perfect parents who spend most of their waking hours on the internet preaching to us lesser mortals (one wonders how they can communicate with their children and raise such perfect children when they are on the computer 24/7)preaching the Joy of being perfect parents.

Oh, Lord, save us from parents who wants their children to believe that they are princes and princesses and therefore, must eat their vegetables, because after all princesses and princes eat their vegetables. I suppose the world will quickly teach these children they are NOT princesses or princes.

Moral decay is destroying the fabric of our families. Too little attention paid to children, too little discipline and too many toys, expensive computer games, etc..

Oh, lord, if you have time teach some of the perfect parents a few lessons in humulity and compassion.

And, oh, Lord for the perfect parents, make them realise that there are times you can't reason with a one year old or a two year old. An occasional tap on the hand or the behind when they are wearing a padded diaper does not constitute child abuse.

calcite51 said...

Viv, IF your children are twenty-eight then they are acting very silly.

calcite51 said...

Very mature children you have Viv - they must take after you (certainly nothing to be proud of).

dianeh said...

Calcite

Now look what you have done. Viv has posted on our blog as herself.

You must have hit a nerve and here I was thinking you were making a joke. Stupid me.

dianeh said...

Calcite

I loved the prayer.

And we should add.

Lord let those perfect parents of the internet know the error of their ways by allowing them to read and understand today's featured post.

And

Lord let compassion into their hearts and minds, in the belief that what goes around comes around. For those that give out kindnes, kindness will be returned in full.

And for those that have only vitriol and abuse for innocent people,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sass said...

Vile

Check your own site for "disgusting crap" before you come here and accuse us of writing it.

If you write the foul, insulting comments you do about our posters then you can expect them to hit back.

You take comments from our site, take them completely out of context and bitch about them for hours on end.

You should spend more time cleaning the muck on the wall behind that poor sod of a parrot's cage and less time bitching. How anyone can live in that filth is beyond me.

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