Monday, 21 April 2008

MCCANNS FACE NEW CHARGE, EXCLUSIVE SCANDAL OF PLAN TO CHARGE MADDIE MUM 'KEYSTONE COP' FURY

By Paul Lewis

OK so this is by The People, but it doesn't make it any the less true! This whole investigation has been bungled from start to finish!


A shock new plan to charge Kate McCann over daughter Maddie's kidnap was last night condemned as "spiteful and shameful".

British legal experts branded bungling Portuguese detectives "Keystone Cops" for considering neglect charges.

And they claimed police wanted to nail grieving Kate to save face after failing to solve a year-old crime that has made headlines round the world.

One lawyer said: "After an inquiry costing millions and unprecedented international help, these Keystone Cops still haven't got a clue what happened to Madeleine.

The investigation was a mess from Day One.

"But rather than admit their abject failure, they've sought to shift the blame and smear the McCanns."


As we revealed last month, cops plan to clear Kate, 40, and hubby Gerry of playing any part in Maddie's disappearance from a holiday flat in Praia da Luz on May 3 last year. But they ARE thinking of charging Kate with endangerment for leaving Maddie and two-year-old twins Sean and Amelie alone in the flat while she and Gerry, 39, dined with pals at a nearby restaurant.


The offence carries a maximum jail term of ten years.


Lawyers pointed out the move comes just a week after the couple accused the Policia Judiciaria of leaking a statement designed to smear GP Kate. She is said to have admitted that on the morning of the abduction, Maddie asked her why she hadn't gone to her when she began crying in the night.


But one lawyer said: "This is spiteful and shameful.


"By charging her with endangering Madeleine they'd be implying, 'It's all the mother's fault for leaving her' - as if that excuses them from not doing enough to find her.


"And it would mean washing their hands of Maddie when there's still a chance of finding her."


The lawyer added: "You have to ask why Kate's being targeted and not Gerry.


"Could it be the police are relying on her frankness in her statement to paint her as a bad mother, to damn her by her own words?"


Kate and cardiologist Gerry, of Rothley, Leics, are both still suspects in the inquiry.


They have co-operated fully with cops throughout the probe.


And they were even considering returning to Portugal to take part in a police reconstruction of events surrounding Maddie's disappearance.


But friends now fear Kate could be at risk of arrest if she goes back.


McCann spokesman Clarence Mitchell said last night: "We haven't heard through official channels if they are considering this charge. But you'd have to ask yourself, 'Why now?'"


http://www.people.co.uk/news/tm_headline=mccanns-face-new-charge&method=full&objectid=20389183&siteid=93463-name_page.html

My Take On this.

  • It appears that yet again we have a leak a day going on
  • When is the Portuguese government going to do something about these leaks?
  • How many more times have Kate and Gerry McCann going to be forced to endure the utter spitefulness from the PJ?
  • When is the arguido status going to be lifted?
  • There is obviously a complete lack of evidence, so how much longer can the PJ expect to spin this out?
  • What are the PJ waiting for?
  • When is the EU going to challenge the Portuguese government to do something about their archaic secrecy laws?
  • When is Portugal going to completely review its legal system?
  • So many questions surround Portugal and the handling of this investigation, one only has to look at the excellent Daily Mail article to understand this.
  • For those of you than haven't read this article either on here (just below or on the Daily mail website,) it makes absolutely shocking reading.

142 comments:

Jojam said...

Good Morning All,

IF this report is true, I have no respect for Portugal's justice system.............These charges should apply to All of the group..........They All left their children to go & dine together......so Why just Kate?

IF they were going to charge anyone with endangerment or neglect it should have been done in the first few weeks not 1 year on..............The Leaks & spin from Portugal are discraceful..........IMO they are now trying to save face because they have no evidence of the parents involvement & have failed to investigate the Abduction of Madeleine properly............IMO there needs to be an investigation of the PJ & the justice system to find out WHY, What went wrong, WHO is responsible, & WHERE the corruption is.

Have a Good Day

Sass said...

Hiya Jojam

I just don't see the point in taking them to court for neglect. You can't be more punished than they already have been - they have to live with their decision to leave their children forever. The one who really suffered is Madeleine, but taking her parents to court isn't going to help her either.

You can't even say that charging them is going to act as a deterrent for other parents - the whole Madeleine case is going to act as more of a deterrent than charging them ever will.

I agree with you, Jojam. I think the PJ just want arrests - for whatever - to save face.

Tulip said...

Hi jojam, sass and any other early birds.

Is this another leak then?

Sound like another intimidation attempt to me.

kiwigirl said...

Hi guys
Just catching up on what's been happening, the last week of school and the start of school holdiays are frantic!!

If they go ahead and charge Kate for endangerment, then the PJ must lose the respect of all good police forces worldwide. The McCanns have lost a child, surely this is punishment enough. Not only that, by charging Kate or Gerry, who in the long run are they punishing - the twins, who end up losing a parent and a sibling.

Good to see you back Diane, and hope your little girl gets better soon. Nearly Anzac Day, so long weekend coming up and we're off to Wanaka - I suspect there's snow up there already, there's snow around the hills here already...brrrrrr!

Will try and look in tomorrow in between refereeing sibling arguments over colouring pencils, lego, toys and puzzles etc - can't wait!! Honestly I think most mum's could get second jobs as UN negotiaters!!!

Jojam said...

Hi,tulip, Sass,

IMO
Leak.......for the purpose of Intimidation.......
To save Face.......

WHY? ...........to cover Incompetence or corruption..IMO

Tulip said...

Hi Kiwi, always great to see you. How well I remember school holidays ...

While the PJ are at it, why not charge every parent that has ever used the resort listening services, and similar services at other resorts, not just the Tapas people? There must be records?

Heck, why not open a special prison for them all at the Portuguese taxpayers' expense!!

If they go ahead with this (and I suspect it is just a malicious threat and a diversion) then families WILL avoid the Algarve.

And it's no good to say 'ignorance of the law is no excuse'. Imagine, while you go about your normal holiday activities, you never know what law you might be infringing and what could happen to you in the police station. I'm quite sure Kate and Gerry had no idea they were breaking any law -- how could they when everyone else was doing it and they knew Mark Warner generally offered it?

Why didn't Mark Warner warn all guests in advance? 'It is against the law to leave your children in their rooms at any time without adult supervision or you could spend 10 years in jail'

And then on top of this the PJ's total lack of compassion for a couple who have lost their much-loved daughter. It beggars belief.

calcite51 said...

Good morning everyone. Another day, another leak.

IF the keystone cops are even considering this step (charging Kate for neglect) then I suspect the police and Portugal will see the biggest pushback ever.

Actually a more serious (in my mind) offense is the leaks that are continuously coming out from this case. Surely, if Portugal has a law about secrecy during an investigation then this law has been broken how many times now and charges should be laid against the offending parties. It isn't going to happen, because (IMO) the guilty parties are police officers.

There should definitely be an inquiry into Portugal's police force.

Sass said...

Exactly - with all the allegations that have been made against the Portuguese police (not just regarding this case), it has to be worth investigating.

Tulip said...

Once again Bianca you have (deliberately?) misunderstood. I was referring to the many, many parents who used the personal listening service previously offered at PDL and also still offered at many similar resorts all over the globe. I'm not talking about devices.

What the McCanns did was replicate that service -- MW in PDL apparently did not offer it when they were there but they used to ,as they advertised it quite happily.

So while they did this they knew they were encouraging their guests to break the law?

Otherwise you have nothing new to offer Bianca. Same old same old. Keep your hearts of stone nonsense for someone who wants to listen to your hysteria. We don't.

How's the blog going?

Stregga

Tulip said...

PS Bianca

Sorry, finger slipped with the r.
And you really are a one off. I humorously SIGNED myself STEGGA not called you one. Do you ever think before you write or just emote?

And I can't conceive of anyone who can say that the parents were more responsible for what happened than the predator (do read your post again)

That's so sick! Idiotic. Poor little predator, couldn't help himself aaah.

Yes, replicate the service MW routinely offered -- listening at the door at intervals, OK?

Look, this isn't my blog, but I think I speak for our members in asking you to take your child neglector hysteria elsewhere -- like to your own blog if Viv and co don't want you. Your record speaks for itself -- you aren't friendly.

PS just seen your last post. Then I won't need a shower will I lol, as they say!

Tulip said...

Bianca, I'm cracking up. Yes, we are all putanne (whores to anyone esle around) -- highway whores. Thought you knew that.

You need help Bianca.

Ciao

Tulip said...

Ho hum you expect me to discuss anything with someone who resorts to name calling -- back to the playground with you, though if my kids had talked like that I'd have washed their mouths out with soap.

Calm down dear and go and stir your cauldron.

Tulip said...

To anyone else who calls in -- the comments deleted didn't come from me. You can use your imagination!!

Jojam said...

Tulip/ Bianca

Oh dear, just popped in to read and it seams to be a slanging match.........get a grip both of you..........If you can't be civil please ignore each other........

Tulip said...

Jojam, this isn't your blog so please don't tell me what to do. Bianca has a history on this blog. She also sent about 10 posts saying I am a b*tch and a 'wh*re etc etc.

If the moderators want me to leave they can. I have plenty of other things to do with my life. In fact I think I'll join Mum and co.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Bianca,

Please leave this blog you are upsetting our posters. Any further posts from you will be deleted.

Tulip said...

This my final post to you.

You called me a lot more than putanna. And the last time we communicated on this blog you went totally bananas, misunderstanding everything and placing a curse on me. That is hysterical.

Please stop posting as I won't reply.

Jojam said...

Tulip,

I would not dream of telling you what to do...........Just a plea for sanity..........I only post occasionally..........I too have a life........so have never been as involved as some.........I can understand why Mum has stopped posting. It is very sad that people become so defensive after all it is only a blog........

Tulip said...

Hi Jojam ,sorry I was snappy, but this woman is something else.

I am not going to post any more messages so bye all -- good luck.

joanypony said...

Tulip

Best to ignore all she posts till she gets the message.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hey Tulip,

Come on, dont let her of all people stop you from posting.

Take time to calm down, but dont give in to the likes of them.


Hope to see you later xx

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi Joany,

Nice to see you, I cannot stop as I am at work.

Hope you are well.

Bye for now x

Rosiepops said...

Hi Tulip

There is a vast difference between you and Bianca, she is not wanted here and you are.

Don't let these people win with their inane rantings.

For that disgraceful soiree onto our blog Bianca joins Doppel in having all her posts deleted no matter what they say.

Rosiepops said...

Hi Joany

Are you still around?

joanypony said...

Hi Rosie,

Just popped put for the evening paper.

What the hell does Bianca think she's doing, shit-stirring in everyway.

These people should not be acknowledged on the blog, if they are ignored long enough they will get fed up posting, as I said already they get their kicks out of knowing that they are annoying people.

joanypony said...

Hi Rosie,

Just been reading said evening paper and thinking what an awful world we are living in now.

There were four assaults in Aberdeen on Saturday night into Sunday morning. One was in the area I stay in, 6 men and women attacked a Polish man who had to have hospital treatment. The police say it was racially motivated.

We have a lot of Polish people in Torry but they don't bother anyone, a lot of the men are drivers on the buses, and I don't care who lives here if they are law abiding and working, but some ignorant people seem to get a twisted enjoyment out of kicking the sh*t out of folk.

Sass said...

Don't worry folks. I have Bianca's IP number - it ends with

80.120 and her OS is Windows XP

(incase she is reading this and thinks I am bluffing).

Any further posts from her will cause her more trouble than it is worth.

joanypony said...

Hi sass

Any chance of exterminating her?!!

Rosiepops said...

Hi Joany

We all agree with you, they just come to cause trouble and will not tolerate anyone abusing our posters like this and ignoring them and their ignorant foul rants is probably the best thing to do.

I also agree with you about what you said about the attacks, why can't people just leave other people alone? Why are they so eaten up with hatred that they have to physically attack people like this?

Same as these people that feel they have to continually attack Kate and Gerry, I feel they are doing it because of their own issues, they are probably as hate filled off of the internet as they are on it.

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joanypony said...

Sass,

Ignore!!

Sass said...

Joanypony

If only I were a dalek!

Rosiepops said...

sass

I think it is a clone. I have never known Bianca to behave like this.

joanypony said...

Sass,

Just keep deleting and ignoring, that's almost as good as exterminating!!

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi Rosie,

She was like it the other week on the DE. I think she managed to get banned in record timing.

Just let her continue to embarrass herself.

Rosiepops said...

Hi Tinks and Joany

Is it any wonder? The behaviour fits the stereotypical McCann hater, loud, rude, abusive and foul mouthed.

Oh and pea brained!

Rosiepops said...

I think this week we may see the argudio status lifte on the McCann's, if the PJ's behaviour of late is anything to go by, they are all running around like headless chickens!

I still cannot get over that daily Mail report, truly shocking, what on earth is going on in Portugal?

Sass said...

Rosie

Just checked - no clone! Perhaps the monologues on her own blog have finally proved too much for her!

Hiya Tinks!

joanypony said...

Delete and ignore!

joanypony said...

Sass,

You didn't publish the total IP so no offence committed.

Sass said...

Joanypony

I realise that - that's why I did it that way.

As you say - ignore!

Rosiepops said...

Sassy and Joany

Don't worry about her, she must have lost her way today while looking for ther plot!

joanypony said...

Rosie

Good one lol.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Just leaving work guys, see you a bit later.

Ignore the minor irritation, she'll blow herself out.

Bye for now.

Sass said...

Rosie

Certainly not worried about her! She can't be traced anyway - there are another 5 or 6 numbers in front of that IP address.

Let's get back on topic!

Rosiepops said...

Tinks

Safe trip home, see you later.

Sass said...

Tinks

Be careful on your long drive home. Don't fall asleep at the wheel or do anything daft - take a coffee with you or something, after all it's quite a journey! ;-)

Rosiepops said...

I am waiting to see what happens this week, I believe there has to be a decision on the arguido status?

I think that all this posturing by the PJ proves that they are really worried about things being made public and they are also on the back foot and they do not like it at all.

helenm said...

Hi folks,

See you have had a visitor. You will never believe this but earlier today I was going to post that I thought that Bianca was doing a good job on TWS yesterday, debating. In fact she got quite a lot of stick from the other posters who thought she had been cloned! Don't know what's gone on today, maybe she was trying to prove a point.

Sassy you have mail.

joanypony said...

Rosie,

Something has to happen soon to move this to a conclusion.

The threat to charge the McCanns with endangerment is just that, a threat, a smoke screen, because if they were going to be charged with that it should have been right at the start along with about half the parents at MW!

Mandz said...

Hi All,

Pathetic……

How about them looking for Maddie…….? Why Kate? Why the mother? Do “dads” not have the responsibility of their children in Portugal? In my opinion they are absolutely desperado however again everyone can see exactly what they are and in my opinion they are trying to take attention away from themselves however too late guys and never gona work. To me it appears they are throwing their toys out of the pram because their plan has not worked "again". Please however LOOK FOR OUR GIRL……….
Oh and anyone carrying a plastic bag be afraid…. be very afraid…………
Tourist Industry Shove It……

joanypony said...

Hi Mandz

If they shove it any further they won't be able to walk!!

They are floundering now, can't find a way out, it is pathetic.

Mandz said...

Jane and Mum21 where are you...??
Jane in need of ginger nuts!

Sass said...

Hiya Mandz

Kate seems to be a much easier victim for them than Gerry! If I thought one of them would crack under the strain it would definitely be Kate, just because she seems so sort of fragile.

Mandz said...

Hi Joanypony,

Well if it is shoved far enough them maybe it will reach the brain in desperate need of stimulation….....Must Find Maddie...would be a start...!

joanypony said...

Mandz,

I think you are being to kind to even suggest there is a brain!!

Mandz said...

Hi Sass,

In my opinion..Bullyboys trying to get at this heartbroken mother pathetic sick...

Mandz said...

Joanypony,
lol...!!!

Sass said...

Hiya Mandz

My opinion, too. Look at Joana's mum, too. They chose someone there who had hardly been to school and had no idea (nor resources) how to fight what was happening. As you say, sick.

Tinkerbell43 said...

If there is any truth to this article, then imo it proves what we have always known, they have no other case against the McCs.

If they pursue this charge it will just show what a bunch of heartless crooks they are.

There is nothing to be gained, this family have lost their first born. Their sentance will be a life sentance of uncertainty, guilt, grief and regret. Why punish them anymore than that.

Lets not forget, the real criminal in all of this has paid no price, he has been allowed to get away scot free.

Wheres the justice in that!

Mandz said...

Hi Tinks,

Excellent post - well said.

Tulip said...

Sass you have mail.

Sass said...

Hiya Tinks

Was so worried about you driving ALL that way home from work.

I agree with you completely. You can't punish them more than they have been punished already. Being charged with neglect isn't going to stop them from making the same mistake twice - I'm convinced they'd never leave the twins after what has happened.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi Mandz & Tulip,

I cannot believe the audacity of this mob, they put the brute in brute force and ignorance.

I just wish our Government would get involved now, these are British citizens and enough is enough, the torment they are subjecting these parents to is inhumane and I think its time they either put up or shut up and let these poor parents get on with searching for their child unhindered.

Sass said...

Hiya Tulip

Am just in the middle of answering you! Glad you are back on the blog, anyway.

Mandz said...

Absolutely Tinks it’s a bloody public witch hunt and execution. What more do these evil people want? Will it help the twins? Will it help Maddie and let’s face it she could still be out there and as you have said the most disgusting thing about this is the EVIL sick ******** has never been mentioned or hunted down…Justice?????????

Sass said...

Mandz and Tinks

Exactly - arrests don't necessarily mean justice!

Sass said...

Tulip

Are you around?

Tinkerbell43 said...

Sass,

It Enders and Corrie time :0)

Sass said...

Tinks

Thank goodness you got home safely!

assassin said...

Quick post on passing. There is a precise analytical reason as to why the pj are doing this and why this annailation is so high in a country like portugal. Tourism ignorance and archaism are all factors for sure....

But the reason they want to KILL Kate McCann is not about kate at all. She is getting it from though for sure.

Disgusting altogether. Biggest global injustice society has seen - and unfortunately it was always going to come the worse the World got - just the right OBJECTS in the WRONG culture had to occur for it to happen.

Poor Madeleine, poor McCanns.

Prime Evil PJ

Mandz said...

Hi & bye Assassin!

joanypony said...

Hi mandz,

I was hoping we were going to delete and ignore B in the hope that she will get fed up trying to disrupt our blog.

Sass said...

Mandz

Seems clear enough to me! The racist card is pulled too much by some people, whenever they have nothing else to say. Don't forget not to mention the P word! Anyone who comes from Portugal is of West Iberian persuasion!

Mandz said...

Ok Joanypony however I felt a little better for posting back to her. I have deleted it now.

Sass said...

Mandz

I agree with what you nearly said!

joanypony said...

Hi Mandz,

I know it is tempting to reply but these folk seem to get their kicks from knowing that they have 'got your dander up' (Scottish saying!)

If you don't let them see that by ignoring them it will annoy them more, eventually they will get fed up trying to stir it up.

Mandz said...

I was not aware of the trouble she has caused recently hence my post but now I know and it's not just me! Too many times have I seen this Rrrr card being pulled out because one has difficulty understanding the meaning of the word? Lol now!

Tinkerbell43 said...

Again the PJ have us talking about their latest leak, everything is orchestrated to take the attention away from Madeleine. Why ? what are they hiding ? someone needs to penetrate what is going on here, how I dont know, but someone somewhere knows something and that person needs to have the balls to come forward and make a stand. Surely they cannot all be without conscience can they or is the fear of their own too in grained.

Rosiepops said...

Hi Everyone,

Just wanted to say that Doppel was on trying to stir upo trouble last night and tried to get us to remove that brilliant Daily Mail article by David Rose.
He said that the Mail had removed it for libel reasons, bit they had not they were just moving stuff around in their paper.
here is the link to where the report has been moved to.


David Rose. Mail On sunday Report

Rosiepops said...

Tinks

Perhaps that person that knows something about this is not that far away!

Rosiepops said...

Mandz re your post 19.24

you are correct Madeleine could still be out there and pressure has to be brought on the PJ to either investigate her disappearance properly or hand their files over to the British Police and let them do it. (Preferably the latter)

Rosiepops said...

This latest leak is this the one about Kate "supposedly" being prosecuted for endangerment? It is never going to happen, if they did this then they would lose the tiny bit of credibility they have left!

They are just trying to divert attention away from astonishing stories like:

Michael Cook
Leonor Cipriano
Madeleine McCann


I find it highly suspect that Leonor Cipriano's lawyer was found with these drugs. Why would he do this? He knows perfectly well that a certain person and his followers, would be watching his every move like a hawk, just waiting for one toe to go out of line, so why would he even attempt it.

Tulip said...

Sass, ignore email, computer problem solved.!!!

Rosiepops said...

Hi Tulip

Glad to see you back.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi Rosie,

I dont even see how they can go for child endangerment 12 months on, wasn't there a deadline of 6 months for these charges or are they moving the goal posts to suit again!

Rosiepops said...

Tinks

I can't remember how long it is, but it was something like this.

It is just a smokescreen to try and stop people seeing the real PJ.

I wonder what happens id PDL? What happens in Portugal?

What is happening in the Casa Pia case not being heard in *secret*?

No one knows what is being kept secret there and it is in the public interest to know what has happened, yet the Portuguese are not being told?

Just so murky, they are acting as if they have something to hide!

Tulip said...

Tinks I also remember there being something about 6 months and then they can't charge. But they move goalposts at will, so...

Seems you dealt with things very well after I left to simmer down.
I think I may stick to evenings in future when there are more people around. It can feel like being in a cul-de-sac with a crazy creature advancing on you!

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hey Tulip,

I've been there, got the T shirt, lol. I was looking in, it was all nice and quiet, I went into a meeting came back and couldnt believe what was happening.

Sorry you got subjected to that but I must say you done us proud. Thanks xx.

Sass said...

Hiya Tulip

Consider your e-mail ignored!

Tulip said...

Tinks I'm blushing. As long as I didn't let the jolly old side down, what?

Rosiepops said...

Tulip

You should as Calcite for some tips, she had Vile to deal with once in the early hours and when I read the posts, I was in absolute stitches laughing at Calcite's responses to Vile and Vile could not quite get a handle on it or work Calcite out which made it even funnier.

If it is any consolation I think she appears to be on some kind of substance!

Sass said...

Off to bed! Night!

Tinks - hope tomorrow isn't too awful.

Rosiepops said...

Night sass sleep well take care x

Tulip said...

Hi Rosie!

About the 'substance' someone may be on. You know that's the only explanation I could think of when I thought about it later.

Her poor children, never knowing when she'll erupt.

Night Sass! Thanks for your support.

Rosiepops said...

Tulip

I know and all this pulling other people's parenting skills apart!

Tinkerbell43 said...

Thanks Sass and goodnight xx

Sass said...

Night Tulip and Rosie

Tulip, you're welcome. We don't want you leaving because of that thing that has no life.

Sass said...

Night Tinks

Wow this is just like the Waltons!

Rosiepops said...

Night john Boy

Rosiepops said...

Tinks did you remember my chocolate?

Tinkerbell43 said...

Rosie,

Got a tin of quality street, thought we could share them, the fudges are mine!

Sass said...

Rosie

Let's let the dappy you know what read that, then I'll remove it.

Sass said...

Now, I'm really off.
x

Tinkerbell43 said...

Blimey Sass, thats an old one, I haven't heard dappy for years, lol.

Nite x

Rosiepops said...

Oh Tinks can I have the triangles?

Sass and Tulip, what do you want?

save the toffees for Bianca they may stick her big gob together!

Tinkerbell43 said...

Rosie,

Nah, thats a waste of a good toffee, a gobstopper would be more apt, you know the ones the size of a tennis ball!!

Rosiepops said...

Football more like!

Rosiepops said...

Did you get my email about my daughter?

Tinkerbell43 said...

No, will check now.

Rosiepops said...

Tinks

Don't you think it is odd how all roads seem to lead to Goncalo Amaral.

Tulip said...

Rosie can I have that purple one with a funny shape that has soft toffee inside?

Dont Let Them Hurt Our Children said...

Hiya Everyone, Have You seen this ?
Public Ministry prepares an accusation for Exposition/Abandonment and Negligence against Maddie's parents
...there are strong evidences that she died in the apartment...

"The Public Ministry has collected enough evidence to accuse the McCanns even if there is or not a re-enactment of the facts that occurred in the day the girl went missing". The guarantee was given to 24Horas by a judiciary officer who has been following the investigation. The same source added that the indictment might only take place in July and that the McCanns can incur in a penalty "that can go up to 10 years in jail". Another source connected to the case concluded: "We know that the girl disappeared and there are strong evidences that she died in the apartment, apparently in an accidental way. There are also strong probabilities that her corpse was hidden. Nonetheless, independently from that, there is clear proof under the Portuguese Legislation that the parents of the child left her exposed to an eventual kidnapping, like they did with her twin siblings. That is a crime of Negligence and Exposition/Abandonment over people they had the duty to protect.

Ongoing Investigations

Contacted by the 24Horas, Guilhermino Encarnação, the assistant director of the Judiciary Police and the very person in charge of the Directorship of Faro, merely said: "the investigations continue and when there is something relevant to reveal" about the mediatic case "that will be done through the official channels".

A source from Portimão's Court assured to 24Horas that the Public Prosecutor Magalhães e Menezes, the responsible for the administration of the inquest, is already working in the accusations against the McCanns and that will be made public "very soon". That is, the probability for the McCanns to stop being arguidos in the following months is almost null. 24Horas also knows that Robert Murat and his companion [Michaela Walczuch] have strong possibilities of not being implicated in the accusation.

Source: 24Horas

Portuguese Judicial Code
Article 138
Exposure or abandonment

1 - Whom endangers the life of another person:
a) By exposing her in a place where the person is subject to a situation which she cannot defend herself from on her own; or

b) By abandoning her in a defenseless state, for motive of age, physical defect or illness, when the agent had the duty to guard, watch or assist to the person;
is punished with a prison term of 1 to 5 years.

2 - If the fact is practised by an ascendant or descendant, adoptant or adoptee of the victim, the agent is punished with a prison term of 2 to 5 years.

3 - If the fact results in:
a) Serious offense to the physical integrity, the agent is punished with a prison term of 2 to 8 years;
b) Death, the agent is punished with a prison term of 3 to 10 years.

Posted by Dont Let Them Hurt Our Children at 21.4.08

Rosiepops said...

Tulip.

that is the best one next to the triangle!

Hi DLTHOC

Thanks for oyur emails, they are very interestimg indeed.

just going to read your post now.

Tulip said...

Another leak.

Dont Let Them Hurt Our Children said...

Yes it looks Like it, Myself and this Effidge do Not get on, She is So Anti Mccann - but She Translates.


http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/04/mccanns-risk-ten-years-in-jail.html

Tulip said...

So once again a PJ source tells 24 Horas 'Psst, we know they killed the child, but anyway we are going to arrest them for endangerment'.

A disgrace. Again.

If they try that stunt I wonder what the authorities here will do?

Sounds like desperation to me.

Tulip said...

And people wonder why they aren't returning to Portugal ...

Rosiepops said...

Janet,

That paper is a complete joke.

I said yesterday that we are back to a leak a day, like it was under Goncalo Amaral, this reeks of desperation by the PJ.

There are so many holes in that report it beggars belief that anyone over the age of 10 wrote it!

1) If they knew Madeleine dies in that apartment and they had evidence, why haven't they charged them?

2) They do not have a body so how on earth can they say she died as a result of an accident?

3) They say they have evidence to charge in July? are they serious? If they have evidence why July? Why not now? Why not months ago?

4) they talk about evidence that Madeleine died and then go to say they can be charged for endangerment leading to Madeleine's abduction?

So we are back to accusing the McCann's of just about everything and in the most bizarre fashion?

What is the Portuguese government going to do about these leaks? It is obvious that Paulo Rebelo cannot control his force and it is obvious that Alipio Ribeiro has absolutely no idea of how to control his department.

What I take from this is that the McCann's will soon be released from the arguido status and some hick Portuguese PJ is so pissed off about it he is leaking a load of rubbish.

I really think if the PJ cannot shut up and the Portuguese government have no control over their police force then they need to be kicked out of the EU.

I also think the McCann's should lodge an official complaint and ask their lawyers to sue the PJ for defamation of character and failing to conduct a proper investigation in the disappearance of Madeleine.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Well if the evidence and probabilities are so strong, charge them. Why go for the lesser offence!

They are just embarrassing themselves now, it smacks of desperation.

Dont Let Them Hurt Our Children said...

I would Never Take My children there, I'm appalled.

Tulip said...

Yes, Rosie, my thoughts too.

Tulip said...

My interpretation is that they know they haven't got evidence for the big one so they are now threatening on the lesser one.

Pure spite.

Rosiepops said...

The PJ now have to stop this it is getting bloody ridiculous, they are bringing their country into disrepute and making them all look like idiots and a laughing stock, a country pretending to be modern but is really no better than a tin pot dictatorship.

Who on earth thought Portugal was fit to be a European Union member state?
The must need their bumps felt!

Tinkerbell43 said...

Well lets see if the PJ come out and discredit this leak! We know they can speak out when it suits them.

Rosiepops said...

Of course the truth is probably that they will not even charge with the lesser charge, because there are too many problems with doing this.
they cannot just charge Gerry and if they charge Kate an no one else there will be absolute uproar, civil rights groups and feminist groups will be down on the heads of the Portuguese hick judicial system in a flash.

Portugal has no idea of what they have got themselves into with their stupidity and total incompetence!

Tinkerbell43 said...

I'm gonna have to say goodnight, have a bit of a heavy day ahead of me. If I dont see you tomorrow, keep up the good work and treat any irritations with the contempt they deserve.

Night all xx

Dont Let Them Hurt Our Children said...

By the way Rosie, I spoke to My friend Today and the Conference is 25 April, He did Not like the Song that she Used in her Video and asked her to Change it.
I am really Stuck for words ...

Rosiepops said...

Tinks

If it was about how bad they are etc they would have already been on TV announcing it.

What is so amusing the PJ actually think that we believe their petty vindictive childish lies?

They have got away with lying to their own subservient people for so long that the PJ are now totally deluded and think because the Portuguese people fall for these stupid lies, that the rest of the world will?

Idiots.

Go to Portugal? They must be joking I would feel safer on a package holiday to Iraq!

Tulip said...

Off now too.

Night everyone.

Rosiepops said...

Tinks

Good night try to sleep well, be with you in thought - take care and God bless xxx

Rosiepops said...

Janet

I thought the song was very apt and was actually quite appropriate and there is not that many songs that would fit the bill really!

Dont Let Them Hurt Our Children said...

Yes so did I, I asked her if she knew anymore about this Conference but sadly he didn't discuss it with Her.

Dont Let Them Hurt Our Children said...

Keep Up the Good Work !
Take care
Janet
x

Rosiepops said...

Thanks Janet, we will for sure.

Good night sleep well take care xxx

by the way did you get an invite for this blog? just in case we need to switch it over to invited members only?

Dont Let Them Hurt Our Children said...

Yes I did Thanks !
Goodnight Rosie xx

johnfrank said...

just wondering could i get on?
john

dianeh said...

Hi To Everyone.

On this latest leak about charging Kate with child neglect.

Completely agree with Rosie that the leak is self contradictory. After all, Madeleine cant be dead and abducted at the same time. Are they a bunch of halfwits on that paper????

In my opinon, if the PJ wanted to charge Kate with neglect, they should have done it months ago. By not charging her, and going for a higher penalty crime (not sure exactly what they were trying to prove), they have pretty well guaranteed a minimum sentence under any abandonment charge. After all, the McCanns will be able to prove that they have provided for their children in all other respects and that the leaving of the children was an isolated event (taking place over multiple nights) because they believed the place to be safe and they were following an accepted practice in the MW resorts. If the PJ and justice system are to prosecute, they will need to get a good result or all it will provide is embarassment.

I dont think the PJ can avoid embarassment over this, and as such, it is highly possible that the judiciary will not allow a case to go forward. The cost of such a case, if the outcome is only a suspended sentence (for example) would be ridiculous. I also think that the McCanns would approach the EU courts (not sure under what but probably having the civil rights violated, most likely a case for this). As for the British govt sitting quiet, I dont think so.

AND all this does is highlight that PJ have not been able to find Madeleine. Do they not realise that each of these leaks just highlights to the world AGAIN, that they have not done their jobs?

Rosiepops said...

Hi Diane

you know I do not think that the penny has dropped with the PJ yet. I am sure they think because they a few insane posters on the hate blogs backing them up and because their own people are too scared of them to say anything against them.I think they are dwelling under the very false misapprehension that the rest of the world is - boy have they got a rude awakening!

They will not go for this charge, this is all bluffology from a third rate discredited police force, designed to cause the McCann's yet more anxiety.

No way will this go to court because if it did the PJ would have to allow the McCann's legal team access to their files and they do not want to do that, because if they did the whole world would pretty soon realise that a lot of nonsense has been spoken about this poor couple, "nonsense and smears, lies and innuendos".

Anyway goodnight Diane I am away to my bed now, if Calcite and Kiwi girl come on please tell them I send my regards x
Hope we s you tomorrow (or today;-)

XXX God Bless Madeleine***

Rosiepops said...

Good night Tulip

sleep well Take care xxx

Jojam said...

Hi All,

Just an observation regarding Bianca's outburst...........
IMO this was caused by tulips 13:56post

Bianca reacted badly as she felt she had been called hysterical & a witch...........

I do not consider this any excuse to behave as she did but Tulip was not blameless............

IMO there is no real room for debate on here because the moment any one says anthing remotely critical of the McCann's or questions anything they are either ridiculed, insulted or deleted..........

As someone who can see errors on both sides I see no point in joining a one sided discussion

I wish you al well.......Try to be nice to others & pray for Madeleine

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