Thursday, 24 April 2008

Kate: We all checked kids

MADELEINE McCann’s parents have told how they devised their own baby-listening service because the complex they were staying in had none.

Kate and Gerry McCann reveal in a new TV documentary how they and seven friends took it in turns to look in on all their kids at the Ocean Club.

At other resorts hols firm Mark Warner had a system where nannies listened at children’s doors, but not at Praia da Luz on Portugal’s Algarve.

The company has since scrapped that system at all resorts and replaced it with a drop-off service where kids are taken to an on-site creche.

The ITV programme goes out on Wednesday.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/maddie/article1081678.ece

103 comments:

Mandz said...

Good Article!

They were doing the same thing and more offered at MW complexes. In my opinion they were swayed into a false sense of security and now sadly are living every parent’s worst nightmare and for that I feel for them.

Maddie is the victim the parents are the victims and the abductor is the real criminal in this which Viv seems to forget. Maddie does not appear to matter to that lot along with the police errors which they support along with the person who took her. They slap this persons back day in day out and one must ask what type of people are posting on that site.

Bye for now.

Sass said...

Hiya Mandz

I agree about the other site. Not only do they seem to support child abductors, but also police brutality and incompetence. What a delightful bunch.

Madeleine is completely blameless - her disappearance deserved a decent investigation.

Mandz said...

Guardian.co.uk

Portugal's elite linked to paedophile ring

The identity of the mysterious group of powerful paedophiles remained a secret yesterday, with only one person prepared to admit she knew at least some of the names.
The material sent to the police, which yesterday appeared to have been lost, was damning proof of the activities of the paedophile ring, Mrs Costa Macedo said.
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I’m getting mixed up with who is who when it comes to “elite”?

Mandz said...

The Portugal News

A total of five police detectives from Portugal's elite Polícia Judiciária (PJ) detective unit were charged over the weekend for physically attacking and torturing Leonor Cipriano, the mother of nine year-old Joana, who disappeared from her Figueira home in Portimão, in 2004.

The case has also gained international significance when it emerged that one of the investi gators charged by prosecutors, is actively involved in the search for Madeleine McCann.

Mrs Cipriano, having been left with two black eyes, had in 2005 accused eight Portimão PJ members of torture and intimidation.
Mrs Cipriano covered the nation's front pages back then with pictures of her swollen black eyes, allegedly caused by members of the PJ in order to have her confess her daughter's murder and reveal her subsequent whereabouts.

According to Mrs Cipriano, she was forced to kneel on glass ashtrays during interrogations, with her head covered by a bag, before being brutally beaten in an attempt to force her to confess.

The court, consisting of three judges and four jurors, found Leonor and João Cipriano guilty of murder, handing them prison terms of 20 and 19 years respectively.
These sentences have since been reduced to terms of 16 years each.
However, the court, in reading out its verdict, said it felt there was adequate forensic evidence found at Joana's home, the crime scene, such as human blood found in the freezer and blood stains on the walls and floors (though laboratories were unable to prove the blood was that of Joana) to find the two accused guilty of murder.
He also failed to rule out the possibility that Joana had been sold, especially after someone linked to the family made a €50,000 bank deposit in the days after her disappearance. A letter written by João from jail to Leonor, which was inter- cepted by the authorities, also made reference to the exchange of cash and that "a grown-up Joana would one day probably return to Portugal".

Since the verdict, a number of the country's leading lawyers and judges have spoken out against the decision. They claim that a conviction was almost impossible due to the fact that the child's body was never found, therefore lacking the crucial evidence that a murder had in fact taken place and that this alone, should have cast sufficient doubt for the court to absolve the two accused.
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Elite who…..?

Tinkerbell43 said...

Morning All,

Just popping in.

What bugs me, are these people that say "I would never leave my children alone with a baby listening service" .

well thats good for you, each to their own, but there was obviously a call for BABY listening services or they wouldnt have been employed in the first place. This means people used this facility around the world and no doubt it was a selling point to some families.

There's confusion as to whether MW PDL did actually offer it, but none the less the McCanns made a decision, based on how safe they felt in their holiday environment, to do their own checks, whilst they dined in close proximity. I have no doubt if they didnt think they would be safe, they wouldn't have left them.

When all said and done, Madeleine should have been safe in her bed, nobody had the right to enter that apartment and take this little child. Anything else just detracts away from the FACT, there is a criminal out there and this scum needs to be found.

Bye for now.

Sass said...

Hiya Tinkz and Mandz

How you doing?

Baby listening services have been going on since the 1950s - they had them in holiday camps and if your child was crying they'd hold up a sign wherever everything was going on, so the parents could go back to the chalets. If everyone said they would never use them, then they wouldn't have been going so long.

calcite51 said...

Good morning. I confess - I don't understand why some people on some other blogs so desperately want KATE charged with child neglect and not the other MW guests who did the very same thing.

And when one has her blinders on and refuse to see the many errors made by their PJ's, it is disgusting. As for Portugal having the 3rd best police force in the world, in MHO that is only in Portugal's mind. I'm sure with the horrendous mistakes that Gonc and his merry men made in this case, they will fall from 3rd place to the very last. Another star for Gonc.

Rosiepops said...

Hi All,

Mandz, don't forget that the blood found in the Cipriano freezer WAS NEVER DNA TESTED so it was NEVER proved to come from Joana. Also The Cipriano's kept pigs for food, so this blood could very possibly have come from a butchered pig!

Yet more little things that the PJ never like to mention about the Leonor Cipriano case.

This is the kind of defence that Arsabliar and Claw spent their DX days defending.

The question you have to ask is why? Why would two *allegedly* women spend their days defending evidence which quite frankly stinks to high heaven?

Just in case the importance of this is missed, I will say it again:

The blood found in the Cipriano freezer which was said to have belonged to Joana, was NEVER proved to be hers and was NEVER DNA tested.

Food for thought?

What is going on in Portugal? how on earth can this be allowed to happen in this day and age in a member state of the EU?

Much is going to come from this case, in my opinion probably one of the reasons why Goncalo Amaral is going to take early retirement.

Another reason is because he was made to walk the plank!.

Pension Intacticus?

The Portuguese government are beginning to stir and realise the damage that all this is doing to Portugal's reputation, looking at the tourist industry numbers and realising the effect that dropping tourist trade is going to have on their economy.

In my opinion some really dark things are happening in Portugal and much is going to be revealed, it is all starting to unravel.

Rosiepops said...

Re the Portuguese Police supposed to be rated third.


If you are first you are first.

If you are second you are *nothing*


Where is the PJ rated? 3rd?

This must mean the PJ are rated less than nothing.

Who compiled the figures that rated the PJ third?

What countries government have asked the PJ for assistance? (Mugabe's?)

calcite51 said...

Odd that the only news we've had from Portugal is Gonc's retirement (okay I think he was pushed). And yes, Claws, you're kinda right about Justice coming in Madeleine's case.

I can see it's already happening with Gonc's retirement and the charges in Joanna's case against Gonc and his merry five men.

But Claws you are a LIAR - what happened to Alsa's blog where she was coming back in a couple of days......

Rosiepops said...

Calcite

Have you heard the rumour about Arsabliar? Apparently her blog was pulled, I read it somewhere on Supertroll's, can't remember which blog though.

joanypony said...

Hi everyone,

Just a quick look in before I go on my afternoon kiddie pick-up!!

Rosie

As you say I do not know how the PJ are getting away with what they are doing, or not doing in one case.

I feel we are all holding our breath waiting expectantly for something fantastic to happen, I hope it is soon as this state of affairs has been dragged on too long.

Rosiepops said...

Tinks Re Post 10.49

"When all said and done, Madeleine should have been safe in her bed, nobody had the right to enter that apartment and take this little child. Anything else just detracts away from the FACT, there is a criminal out there and this scum needs to be found".

By Tinks

Well said Tinks, very well said!

It is surprising how this is totally ignored by the the house of child abductor protectors (Vile Viv's)

That child had a right to be asleep in her bed and NOT be taken from it by some filthy corrupt low life scum, probably the member of some elite gang operating in Portugal and being protected by certain people.

Would anyone really want to go on holiday in a country that is in total denial about what has happened to Madeleine McCann? So much so that the PJ even deny that she was abducted?

Where is Madeleine? I do not believe she is dead, so where is she? Why did the PJ give up looking for her in week three?
Why are they so desperate to pin this on the McCann's.

In my opinion people are starting to panic in Portugal and it is all coming undone and people will start talking soon, because they know they are a hairs breath away from being discovered and thrown into prison for a very long time.

Rosiepops said...

hi Joany

I agree with you.
Something is going to happen and happen soon, Amaral knows it and so does the PJ and the Portuguese government.

I think this is behind a lot of these ridiculous leaks lately and behind a lot of the developments regarding Tubby Amaral.

In my opinion both he, the Pj and the Portuguese government know there is a very high possibility that he and his band of merry men one of them ex PJ turned journalist/author Pauloa Cristovao are going to prison and much will be coming out about this case.

Also of course Leonor Ciprianao's case will also be back in a Portuguese court should the above be found guilty and with all what is now known about the crazy NON evidence in this case, she will probably be found not guilty and released.

Portugal is heading for very turbulent times and are going to be damaged on the world's stage, so much so that it could probably see it expelled from the EU.

Rosiepops said...

And what is happening with he Casa Pia case, being held in SECRET in Portugal right NOW?

How come the EU allows Portugal to get away with such things?

Transparency...Transparency...Transparency.

Rosiepops said...

Does anyone else see the connection here?

Don't you think it is odd that the person that works for M3 was arrested on drugs related charges?

Then a few weeks later exactly the same with Leonor Cipriano's lawyer?

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi All,

Do we know whether Gonc has officially retired yet ?

I understand he made the request last month, would he go that quick ? not that I'm bothered, the sooner the better as far as I'm concerned, just curious.

Rosiepops said...

Hi Tinks

Someone said he was meant to go today but that was from the house of Child abductor protectors Vile Viv's. So that is probably a lie like everything else on that blog.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Thanks Rosie,

I'll wait til we can get it from a reputable source then!.

Just leaving work, see you later.

joanypony said...

Hi Rosie,

It worries me these people being arrested for drug smuggling etc. It is, as you say, a strange coincedence, and probably trumped up my the PJ to discredit them.

How long do they think that their own people are going to believe these allegations and unproven facts I do not know, but I'll tell you something, I am glad that I do not live there!

Rosiepops said...

I simply do not believe that Portugal has any intention of charging Kate with endangerment, this was just a leak put out by the PJ to divert attention away from the bad press the PJ received when they made that leak when the McCann's were at the European parliament publicising their fight for a European Amber style alert.

The advent of all these leaks also tie in with fatty's (Goncalo Amaral) demise from the PJ.

It is nonsensical to charge just Kate and not Gerry, and also none of the others who also left their children.

Human rights groups would be down on Portugal like a ton of bricks.

This is the kind of thing that sparks off demonstrations and I cannot see Portugal risking this at this time of year, they are already reporting a dramatic fall in visitor numbers mainly from Britain this year, this would only make it worse.

I would never visit this country while they have a paedophile have operating that is actually a fact and they still do NOT have Sex Offenders register and certainly not a DNA based sex Offenders register.

How would you trust in a country whose police have acted in such a blundering unprofessional fashion? Madeleine McCann is still missing, abducted from her bed, would you trust this country by taking your children there? Not only that, you could end up being charged for something you did not do!

I think the answers to my questions actually lay in the falling visitor numbers, people do think that Madeleine was abducted and they are not willing to trust that country with their children.

Sass said...

If Gonc is leaving today then that is a little on the speedy side isn't it? You put in a request for retirement last month and leave today??? Doesn't sound like he's on the carriage clock list, does it?

helenm said...

Hi folks, test, just lost another post.

helenm said...

Too much of an embarrassment to Portugal IMO. A high ranking police officer would surely give more than a months notice to his employers. IMO the 'option' has been put to him, go now or be pushed.

helenm said...

Rosie,

I have it on good authority that the tourist numbers are down. Very quiet but PDL are expecting an influx of reporters next week for the anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance.

Rosiepops said...

Hi Helen

Just what I think, it was either Pension gonious or pension inatacticus.

Very suspicious timing too if you ask me!

I was wondering after Paulo Rebelo rushed home early after the leaks that he said embarrassed him and this leak was followed with other leaks, have they tracked down the leaker? And it is bye, bye Gonc DON'T collect a gold watch on your way out, he obviously doesn't need it anyway as he cant tell the time, hence 3 hour lunch breaks.

Rosiepops said...

Helen

yes I read in the Daily Mail that visitor numbers to Portugal were down, the person in charge of the tourist board said this, but he tried to make out it was because of the pound against the euro!

Quite frankly I do not believe him, and anyway "he would say that, wouldn't he?"

So are you saying the visitor numbers are down for Praia da Luz? I bet in this case they do not mind the influx of foreign reporters then, they have money to spend I take it!

helenm said...

Apparently Goncalo Amaral only is able to receive 60% of his pension, not having enough years service. What's the betting he joins his mate Paulo Christavao in writing a 'book' of LIES. Seem to go down well with our Portuguese posters on TWS.

helenm said...

I have a friend or two that work for travel companies and they are bemoaning the fact that numbers are down. I'm sure that the pound against the euro has some part to play, but who knows?

Hugo Beaties and Kelly's bar can't wait!

Rosiepops said...

Helen

Well if he does, they know where they can get lies from to put in their books, they need look no further than Vile and the vilettes and also for bizarrely insane theories, (because we know how Gonc loves those), they could look up the 3 A's.

He is going now because he has probably been told if he stays on and is found guilty of perverting the course of justice by withholding evidence of torture of a witness into a confession, he is going to the big house and he will lose his pension.

If they are found guilty they can put Cristovao and Amaral in the same cell and they can write lies together!

Rosiepops said...

I bet they will all be piled into Hugo Beatties next week!
I don't think the pound and euro has much to do with it, it is too recent.
I would say this is mainly to do with Madeleine, I know three families that normally go to Portugal each year and because of this they are not going this year, they have booked to go to Croatia instead! So I think this factor is going to have a huge effect on tourism.
No doubt the economics will bite too, either way it is not good news is it?

mark said...

I llike this quote from a named source on the BBC website today...

The President of the Portuguese Order of Lawyers, Antonio Marinho e Pinto, told the BBC: "There are strong reasons to fear that judicial secrecy is being used... to conceal the fact that the police have gone down a blind alley and don't have a way out."

isn't that what weve been saying for months

Tinkerbell43 said...

It sure is Mark!

Can you believe these poor parents have been told so little, they do not even know if the police are still looking for their daughter.

It truly is astounding! What gives the PJ the right to play with peoples lives like this including a dear litle childs.

Someone has got to take responsibility for what they have put this family through, my heart goes out to them more than ever.

Mandz said...

Hi All,

Rosie
The question you have to ask is why? Why would two *allegedly* women spend their days defending evidence which quite frankly stinks to high heaven?
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Because missing children don’t matter to them. Look how they referred to these street children? What was it they said oh they are only street prostitutes? Eh hello.
They are not open to any criticism. They see it as an attack on them personally and that somehow people have got it on for them however it is not about being Portuguese it is about Maddie and police errors, smears and lies that started in Portugal.

In my opinion they back slap these evil people who took Maddie.

Saw this and thought this was appropriate:

Every child is everyone’s child
Every child is the child of us all
Shine the light all around the world
So we can protect them all,
Every child . . Every child . . .

Mandz said...

Hi Mark,

Yes it is what we have been saying!

Mandz said...

Tinks, absolutely. How do they get out of bed in the morning when they are being tortured daily by these evil people who tell lies about them and sick theories about Maddie. I have never seen a police force act the way “they” have. When will they be made accountable? When?

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hey Mandz,

What I find absolutely astounding about Vile and the vilettes, is the way yesterday they were celebrating and showering with love, a Man that imo has done nothing but let Madeleine down.

How is that Justice for Madeleine. How dare they do this in that poor little girls name.

They make me sick to the pit of my stomach.

Mandz said...

Well Tink!

You are dead right about them.
In my opinion they support police errors which let down Maddie. Why? They refuse to believe she was abducted - why?? They appear to back slap these people who took her - why?
Justice for Maddie and twins? Mmmmm....who really is posting on that site?

Rosiepops said...

Hi Mark and Mandz

This is exactly what we are saying on here.

This is exactly why this blog was formed to give the parents of Madeleine support as they search for their child.

What a pity that Arsabliar, Claw and Vile have completely lost site of the fact that this is a missing child, we are all talking about.

Madeleine means less to these people than their nationalistic pride, they scream loudly, "racists, racists, xenophobes", yet I have never, NOT ONE single time, read any of those foul people condemn Madeleine's abductors, what the hell does this say about them?

They think more of their "darling slob Tubby Goncalo Amaral" and the PJ in general, then they do about a missing child.

Arsabliar and Claw's comments about child prostitutes are real and they are telling, and they are very revealing about those two men/women than anything else they can possibly say.

Repeatedly these People Alsabella, Claudia, Viv and Notdoc and Leigh, have told lie after lie after lie, yet still they have this group of people that must be as thick as hell, hanging onto to their every word and believing the ridiculous lies they are being fed daily. What is the agenda there? What is in it for these people that manifest and spread their lies across the internet? Where do they really live? What are they really doing?

To me what this has said loud and clear is that Portugal is a corrupt country and its people live in fear of its police force.

What is the EU doing allowing this situation to continue? How much longer can it possibly go on before someone at the EU says enough is enough and forces Portugal to get a grip and have this investigated properly.

What is Portugal so scared of?

Portugal is behaving like a country with a something huge and sinister to hide.

Rosiepops said...

By the way Mark, great to see you on here.

Mandz said...

Hi helen,
Apparently Goncalo Amaral only is able to receive 60% of his pension, not having enough years service. What's the betting he joins his mate Paulo Christavao in writing a 'book' of LIES. Seem to go down well with our Portuguese posters on TWS.

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Lol.......nothing surprises me anymore.......

Tinkerbell43 said...

Mandz,

Did you listen to the Documentary ?

I was gobsmacked to hear, since taking over, Rebelo has not even made contact with the McCanns.

Can you believe this ?

Mandz said...

Well said Rosie,

These people are beyond help in my opinion and I guess the world is full of sick people just like the ones who took Maddie from her parents....

Sick son of a bitch....

Mandz said...

Hi Tinks,
I didn’t get a chance but please tell me this is not true. They have 0 evidence on them and Murat by the looks of things yet this couple have not been informed of anything since then? No bloody wonder they hired Met3 No bloody wonder. They have a RIGHT to know what is going on in this investigating she is THEIR CHILD they are the ones who spend each minute heartbroken without their daughter..Words cannot describe this bloody mess……..

Tinkerbell43 said...

Mandz,

Give me a few minutes and I'll post what I managed to write down having listened to the documentary.

Mandz said...

I wonder what information Met3 have about Maddie? They must have something surely..

Rosiepops said...

Tinks

I had to listen to it on my PC and it crashed, (typical) I only caught the last 15 mins, but I knew that Rebelo had not contacted the McCann's, actually how cruel, vicious and inhumane is this?

That documentary would have done the PJ and Portugal a hell of a lot of harm, it was so sad, to listen to poor Gerry McCann, what must those two people be going through? What are the grandparents going through?

Poor Mr Mrs Healy and that nasty lying bitch Alsabella/ANA/Marla wrote that nasty inhumane letter to Mrs Healy and got her friend the insane 2345 to hand it to them in person, my God how low can they sink?

I was clinging on to the thought that perhaps 2345 did not deliver that letter, after all I thought no sane or rational person would really do this, however, subsequently of course we have discovered that 2345 is not sane, is not rational and I shudder what an affect that letter would have had on poor Mrs Healy, especially Mr Healy who is in poor health.

That woman (if she is a woman) Arsabella should be totally and utterly ashamed of herself, she is a disgrace to herself and her country.

Mandz said...

You know words really cannot describe this and the sadness…..

Someone took that wee soul from her BED and shivers run down my spine…Those poor parents…

Mandz said...

Portugal wake up you are being fed pig s****.............

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi Rosie / Mandz,

Gerry said, they dont have any communication with the PJ.

He doesnt know if they are still trying to find their daughter, what has been done, who has been eliminated and on what grounds and what leads are still being followed!

He also said he is absolutely positive the man JT saw was the person that took Madeleine. The reason he is so convinced is JT gave a description of what the child was wearing without knowing what Madeleine had on. I have never heard that before!

Mandz said...

Good morning. I confess - I don't understand why some people on some other blogs so desperately want KATE charged with child neglect and not the other MW guests who did the very same thing.

And when one has her blinders on and refuse to see the many errors made by their PJ's, it is disgusting. As for Portugal having the 3rd best police force in the world, in MHO that is only in Portugal's mind. I'm sure with the horrendous mistakes that Gonc and his merry men made in this case, they will fall from 3rd place to the very last. Another star for Gonc.

Exactly Calcite!

Green eyed monsters when it comes to Kate....As for the supporting police errors mmmmm....

Mandz said...

Tinks,
I was not aware of that OMG what have they done to Maddie and this couple.
They have all supported this person who took her…
I feel so sick......

Mandz said...

Going off for a bit...

Tinkerbell43 said...

Mandz,

If you are having a cuppa, I think I'll join you, back in 2!

Tinkerbell43 said...

Mark,

This Antonio Pinto also said the Judicial secrecy Laws shouldn't protect negligence, incompetence or conceal lack of progress. Hmmm

Something else we've been saying for months!!!.

Rosiepops said...

I am just so bloody angry just now.

Rosiepops said...

Tinks Re your post 21.45

It is something we have been saying for ages. The PJ hide behind their secrecy laws and pbey them when it suits themselves.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Rosie,

Yes, but very soon the PJ are going to have to put on the table what they have and no secrecy law can protect that!.

Rosiepops said...

Tinks

You have email.

hughbforty said...

Hi everyone,

Haven't posted anywhere for a while - I've been monitoring Viv's blog and paying particular attention to the very different reaction of Viv to the Karen Matthews story compared to that of Kate McCann - very revealing in my opinion.

Also interesting to see how Claudia worships Snr Amaral...despite his court case...hmmmmm.

I'm still waiting for Dr Mc's imminent major breakthrough predicted in mid-Dec...

Hope you are all well...

Hugh

Rosiepops said...

Hi Hugh

yes we are all OK. really good to see you, did you see the cryptic messages I was leaving you on the DX HYS forum?

Honestly, as a thinking feeling h
human being, I cannot begin to fathom the workings of those minds on that board, the antics have been absolutely amazing.

Viv's reaction to Karen Matthews was telling she bent over backwards to say this was the picture of a truly grieving woman, yet when things went on she argued with notdoc to say that she was right.

Seems to me that being proved right is the only thing these people worry about.

Again Hugh great to see you and I hope you stick around and contribute, we have missed your input.

helenm said...

Hi Folks,

Just been catching up on e-mails and looked in on gazeta digital blog run by Paul Reis. Some of you may remember Alsabella, Claudia and TW as well as others used to wax lyrical about this journalist. He is anti Mccann, anti British and definitely anti Clarence Mitchell IMO. His latest thread talks about the Mccann's leaving their three SONS!! alone in an apartment.

I can see why Alsabella and co. waxed so lyrical about this great journalist. It was because of his exceptional investigative work and attention to DETAIL!!! and presentation of FACTS.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi Hugh,

How lovely to hear from you, the last I heard, someone told me you had asked for your DE account to be deleted.

What a lovely surprise, hope you are well.

Rosiepops said...

Helen

That must be it. Paulo Reis journalist of the year! So good he only has his crummy blog to wax lyrical from.

hughbforty said...

Hi Rosie,

I didn't see the DX comments - I gave up on that not long before the Madeleine articles were all pulled. To be honest Rothaymere was beginning to drive me to insanity and I feared that I couldn't take much more of her self-righteous drivel.

Incidentally, I am pretty sure that DocMc is genuine - in the sense of being a Doc at least...maybe not a bosom buddy of a buddy of one of the McCann's friends- as he claimed...

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi Helen,

Why am I not surprised!.

I looked on the PJ's site, I think it was Archer that posted it, they didnt even have the time of Madeleines disappearance right!

hughbforty said...

hi tinkerbell,

Its very nice to "see" you too!

I've not been far away - but found the express site a bit too addictive, so took a bit of a timeout...

H

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hugh,

Have you heard Amaral has put in for retirement (thats the official line!) and did you see the alleged email he posted on a couple of the hate blogs yesterday ?.

helenm said...

Hi Hugh,
Don't think I've 'met' you before but wlcome. I agree the blogs can be addictive. I know that I took some time out of the DX HYS (well I think I managed 3 or 4 days!!!!)

Rosiepops said...

Helen

Hugh once had a very amusing name on the DX and then changed and gained a twin brother, it was funny you may have remembered him posting under his later name perhaps?

Rosiepops said...

I am looking forward to seeing the documentary about Madeleine next Wednesday, I am hoping that at last we may get some idea of her parents side of things.

I believe that Madeleine is still alive, I just wish whoever is holding her would let her go, they know they cannot keep this up forever.

Rosiepops said...

SeaWitch

I deleted your post because it would lead unwanted people right back to your blog.

Sass said...

Hiya

Just got back from the cinema. Watched a film where the ending was so abrupt that the whole cinema went "Uh???" and then sat through the credits in case something came after to explain it!

Anything new?

helenm said...

Rosie,
You know I'm a bit slow! Give us a better clue? What time is the documentary on?

Rosiepops said...

Helen

Sorry it is on at 8pm on ITV apparently it is a 2 hour documentary.

Rosiepops said...

sass

Sorry I didn't see you there, nothing new on the Madeleine front but Hugh has found us who used to post on the DX.

other than that sorry I am so angry at the moment, I am literally having to try and calm myself down.

SeaWitch said...

OK, Rosie,

I am bewildered but perhaps you can e-mail me? We can sort this out; there is no malice intended.

Goodnight for now.

:-(

helenm said...

Hiya Sass,

Don't you just hate that. Read many a book that has left me hanging all the way through, then, wham, they rush the ending.

Sass said...

Helen

Tinks was saying there was a radio4 documentary on tonight. You can listen to it on the Internet - "listen again" is available!

Sass said...

Hi and bye Seawitch

Rosie - deep cleansing breaths!

Helen - the start of the end to the film was actually long and drawn out, so you thought something dead good was going to happen, but it didn't. All that happened were the credits!

helenm said...

Sass
When I admitted to being a'bit slow' I was referring to the identity of Hugh! Thanks anyway.

Rosiepops said...

For the first time since I gave up smoking over 14 years ago, I have wanted a fag tonight!

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi Sass,

I'm just logging off for the night, catch up with you tomorrow.

Night Helen, Rosie & Hugh,

Sleep well xxx

Tinkerbell43 said...

Rosie,

I've had one for you :0)

(()) nite x

helenm said...

Sleep well Tinks.

Sass said...

Night Tinks

Helen - I was talking about what you said about books and their endings not about you being slow!

Rosiepops said...

Night Tinks, sleep well, dont have nightmares.;-)

See you tomorrow, when I may have landed.

helenm said...

Oh Sass!!!

I think we are both getting a little confused, I know you weren't referring to my being slow, I was refrring to Hugh's identity when I said 'give us a clue' Can't even understand it myself now!!! Bet this reads better than my book and your film!!!!

Rosiepops said...

helen don't you remember?

Hugh Janus!

Rosiepops said...

I thought it was really funny but leigh3 objected to it and reported him and I think she got him banned but don't quote me on that!

But then Leigh3 had a thing about names she was always objecting to one name or another.

Hugh's because it was a bit funny and ours for being too cutesy.

Ever get the feeling you cant win?

I do, often, especially tonight!

Sass said...

OK Helen - no clue at all what is happening now! Let's just agree we are in the Twiglet zone!

Just turned up in time to see Seawitch leaving. She's not been around for a while and when she is I only get a chance for a hi and a bye!

Anyone else turn up? Was Hugh Janus known under another name too?

helenm said...

Sass,
You have mail.

Sass said...

Our 'Ell

Thanks! Just answering some mails now. Is it an explanation of our previous conversation?

helenm said...

You've got to be joking Sass!!! I've lost the will to live over that one! I'm still chuckling to myself, hubby thinks I'm a lost cause!! Beginning to think he's right.

Sass said...

You can tell him you're in good company! Two lost causes together - I spent 3 hours watching a film I didn't get. If that's not a lost cause . . . !

calcite51 said...

Hi, everyone - hope you are all well.

I find it very disturbing that the police have NOT contacted the McCanns - disturbing and yet not surprising.

This must be a very difficult time for the McCanns as the first year anniversary without Madeleine approaches. She's not my little girl - but it does bother me - so I'm sure it must be gut wrenching for the McCanns, the grandparents, the aunts, the uncles - we need some good news and soon.

calcite51 said...

Rosie - I think sending us the e-mail was a better idea - we will take care of it from our e-mails, I think. Or am I out to lunch on this one?

calcite51 said...

Gonc writing a book??? LOLLOLLOLLOL IF he wrote that letter, it's not very well written, perhaps he can go to writing school now that he's retired.

I didn't think the man had a family - he's divorced isn't he?

What happened to the Star of Madeleine book being sold to an american company? Have not heard anything,yet. When I do, it will NOT be in my library.

calcite51 said...

Diane, Hope you little girl is fine - haven't talk to you lately. Hope to catch up with you soon.

dianeh said...

Hi Everyone

Sorry I couldnt catch up earlier but it is Anzac day today and so the kids are home.

Been very busy, cooking and going for my walk. I am having some friends over for dinner tonight, and have already cooked all the food.

Calcite, hopefully we will catch up very soon.

dianeh said...

ON this article,

It is obvious that the McCanns and their friends all believed the resort to be a safe place, so they undertook their own version of the baby listening service. It sounds as though they had used it before at different MW resorts.

And only an idiot would think they would have all left their children if they thought for a minute it was unsafe.

Also, I have read Kate's comments and I didnt think for a minute she was criticising MW resorts. One report I read tried to imply that kate had criticised them by adding their own slant on it. But Kate's own words do not criticise them. After all, if she and Gerry and the other though MW was so wrong for offering a baby listening service at other resorts, why would they have
1. previously used them
2. copied the service.

dianeh said...

And, I also think that Kate and the others tried to improve on the service by checking more regularly and actually going inside the apartment to check that everything was alright.

How can this be abandonment? I think hard to prove, and that is why they havent been charged with it. Also, are MW going to be charged for allowing such a service to exist at other resorts in Portugal. I wonder.

mark said...

Gonc , "The truth about the lie"
This was seized upon by the vile blog to indicate a breakthrough in the case .
No , looks like another book from a pj member to make money out of this tragic case .

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