Saturday, 26 April 2008

Madeleine: 'We made a mistake and we would never leave the children again,' says Gerry McCann

By VANESSA ALLEN -
25th April 2008

Gerry McCann told yesterday of his terrible regret at leaving his children alone on the night Madeleine disappeared.

He admitted: "We made a mistake, but we are paying more for it than anyone could ever possibly imagine."

The father of three said he and his wife Kate had thought at the time it was "perfectly reasonable" to leave Madeleine, then three, and their two-year-old twins alone in an unlocked holiday apartment in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz.

He added: "Hindsight has proven we made a mistake and we would never leave the children again."

In a new interview, a week before the first anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance on May 3, Mr McCann, 39, said he still believes she is alive.

But he said he had so little contact with Portuguese police that he could not be sure officers are still searching for her.

The consultant cardiologist told BBC Radio 4: "One thing is for certain, I've seen nothing to suggest that she's dead. And I mean nothing, absolutely zero.

"And I'm sure if there was any evidence then we would have heard about it a long time ago."

Mr Cann defended himself against claims that he and his wife should be charged with child negligence in Portugal - a crime punishable with a five-year jail sentence.

He said of the couple's accusers: "They have no more information now than was available to them on May 4. So why are we talking about such a charge now?"

The McCanns, of Rothley, Leicestershire, have led their own campaign to find their missing daughter, believing she was abducted from the holiday complex while they dined nearby with friends.

But they remain official suspects and have had no direct contact with police since they left Portugal in September.

The President of the Portuguese Order of Lawyers, Antonio Marinho e Pinto, said yesterday that he believes detectives are hiding behind the country's strict secrecy laws.

He added: "There are strong reasons to fear that judicial secrecy is being used to conceal the fact that the police have gone down a blind alley and don't have a way out."

Portuguese police travelled to Britain earlier this month to oversee fresh interviews of the "Tapas Seven", the group of friends who ate with the McCanns on the night of May 3.

•Searching For Madeleine will be broadcast on BBC Radio 4 at 1.30pm on Sunday.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=561818&in_page_id=1770

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dianeh said...

Hi Everyone.

I am taking the oppotunity to post first. I could do it most nights (my days) but dont, I dont want to seem greedy.

Kate & Gerry know it was a dreadful mistake to leave the children alone. But hindsight is a wonderful thing. It is obvious that to them, it must have seemed safe at the time they did it.

I have just watched the Panorama doco, it was screened here on April 20th, on CI, on pay tv. It wasnt on BBC world, when you all got to see it. ALthough advertised, it was taken off, and replaced with a regional show (asian, some rubbish) that was considered more relevant.

Anyway, the reason I mention it, is that the doco shows that from their table, they could see the apartment. So they probably thought it to be safe. It most likely never crossed their mind that someone would break in and take Madeleine.

dianeh said...

And I want to comment on something else that stuck in my mind from the doco.

The McCanns claim that they went to hotel/resort reception to call the police at 10:15 but the police say they never received the call. This is a piece of propganda put out by the PJ. The doco didnt actually say that. It said that they (I think David Oldfield actually went there) went to reception to have the police called. This is a very big difference. While I was watching it, I was thinking, why would you go to reception and not call the police.

And the answer is easy. Language. The receptionist would speak fluent portugese. None of the Tapas 9 do, at least that is what I would believe, considering that they use interpreters. And than I was thinking, I wouldnt even know the emergency number. I know our (000) and the US (911) but I dont even know what it is in Britain. I probably have heard it, it just hasnt sunk in.


And then on reception at MW. I suspect that they never called the police, that is why the police never received the call. They probably just sent their internal security to help look for Madeleine, believing her to have just wandered off. And this is the crucial time, when the police should have been there.

The doco said that at about 10:45, the McCanns rang looking for the police because they hadnt turned up. So this became a big deal, because they didnt ring straight away.

BUT the PJ should have been able to sort this out in minutes. They probably did and know it happened that way. But couldnt release the details due to the secrecy laws. But because there is a discrepancy (explained) the PJ used it as a leak. A good one too, because it is probably based on truth. Just left out the crucial last bit, which is that the MW reception was supposed to call the police but didnt.

What does everyone else think?

dianeh said...

Another Comment.

Jane Tanner seemed to me to be telling the truth. Confident and completely unfazed. Either telling the truth or the worlds greatest liar. Much has been made that if she and Gerry and friend were all in the street, they should have seen her. But what if they were facing the other way and looking at the building nearest them and both had their backs to her. You know, if they were cooking up a story, they would have said they saw her.

The stupid anti's think that JT must be lying because the others didnt see her. In actual fact, it is exactly because they didnt see her, that I believe her to be telling the truth. Incidentally, Lies for Eyes, thinks they are all telling the truth.

I just cannot for the life of me understand how watching Jane Tanner talk convinced the anti's that they were all involved in a conspiracy. Living in lala land, I think.

dianeh said...

Is that doco the one where the producer diassociated himself from it because he was made to portray the McCanns in a less than sympathetic light???

Because I am very surprised if that is the case. Looking at it 100 days after it was first aired, it is obvious that the Panorama crew were fed some very big lies from the PJ. And I say that with confidence because nothing has come from their supposed confidence in proving the case. No DNA, no forensics etc. That so called evidence was damning at the time and painted the McCanns in a bad light (and it was all off the record and uncorroborated, which is probably why the producer didnt want it included). But after another 100 days, it is obvious it was just more falshoods.

In fact, I think the McCanns were portrayed very sympathetically and more importantly, truthfully. The panorama crews filming tallied with that of the film by the McCanns friend. It all had a ring of truth to it. The McCanns looked like a normal family being put into a truly abnormal situation. I was quite impressed by their normality. And that is something that is very difficult to stage convincingly,let alone keep it up for any length of time.

dianeh said...

And my last comment.

The trip to Huelva, where the McCanns are supposed to have disposed of Madeleine's body. I didnt know their family friend (with is cameraman) accompanied them. I thought it was just the press following them. And the family friend said that Madeleine wasnt in the boot, because their camera case was.

Yet, the bloody PJ leaked or the Portugese press just made up that bull***t about that trip, knowing full well that it couldnt have ever happened.

AND two days after Madeleine went missing the PJ (according to the senior policeman who talked off the record to Panorama) knew she hadnt been abducted. How could they??? They should have tried doing their jobs and investigate properly.

Same as Robert Murat. IMO, another scapegoat. But in the doco, the statement by Rachel Oldfield and 2 others that said they seen RM the night Madeleine disappeared was one of the discrepancies used to suggest they were all lying. What rot is that? Surely it proves that RM was lying, not the other three (especially since others have since come forward to back them up). But what if all of them are telling the truth and it is someone else that just looks similar to RM. But even if RM did lie and he was out that night, it doesnt mean he had anything to do with Madeleine's disappearance. It proves nothing, except that for some reason, he didnt want anyone to know he was out. He may have been up to no good, and it is not related to Madeleine. Who know? But imo, if three people are saying one thing and one person saying the opposite, then it is hard to believe the three are all lying. Why would they? What could be that important? And I very much doubt that they would lie to cover up the death of a child. That is what makes the whole thing so ridiculous. You do not lie for your friends, where the life of a child is concerned. Maybe for a speeding fine, but not a murder/killing/accidental death.

Sass said...

Hiya Diane

You post first as much you want! Get the blog going!

I have no doubt that when the McCanns left the children they thought there was no risk to them at all from strangers - I don't believe for a moment that they would have left the children if they had thought there was a possibility of something happening. The fact that they left them for something as trivial as a drink shows how safe they felt there.

That isn't to say I agree with them leaving them - not at all. Its not something I could ever consider as I couldn't relax.

supertroll said...

Good morning
Why can't people get a grip!

They didn't leave the children alone all night and go to another village...they were nearby and kept regular check on them.

They left their children and dined in the same resort at a very short distance from the apartments.

They did exactly the same actions that the listening service provided provided by MW.

MW holidays advertise their holiday resorts as safe compounds.

Even though they have admitted it was a mistake...why are people so fixated on this when there are so many terrible REAL cases of child neglect happening right now?

ST

Sass said...

Hiya Supertroll

I wonder what people would have said if they had used a listening service and then Madeleine have been taken? I wonder if people would then have been more sympathetic towards them?

As far as calling them child neglectors ís concerned I too think that is a load of rubbish. Found this definition of child neglect:

"Neglect is the persistent lack of appropriate care of children, including love, stimulation, safety, nourishment, warmth, education and medical attention."

I do realise that the supporters of child abduction and police brutality site will say that they didn't provide them with a safe environment, but a child should be safe from abductors when sleeping in their bed.

supertroll said...

Sass,

There are so many cases of neglect going on, there are so many terrible things that happen to children on a daily basis, some of whom we might even know and not realise.

But they insist in fixating on this couple, more have suffered more than enough IMO.

What does this say about them and their true motivations. And I also wonder how much time they are actually devoting to their own children/grandchildren while devotong themselves to this hate campaign.

Regards
ST

archer said...

Diane Hi

I hope you are all well.

I listened to part of the radio 4 broadcast on Thursday evening.

I have not changed my opinion at all. I believe Jane Tanner was telling the truth. In fact, I still believe they are all being honest.

The slurs, smears and speculation have been truly horrific. All unfounded nonsense put out to paint Kate and Gerry as neglectful and wicked parents. The ignorant and the callous have latched onto this as being truthful, therefore the parents must be guilty of a dreadful crime! In truth, they are guilty, guilty of an error of judgement in thinking that their daughter would be safe in her bed. Guilty for not thinking that some sicko would come along and take her. Guilty!

This will haunt them for the rest of their lives. Would we condemn them any more than they have and will condemn themselves. I will not.

My heart aches for them, especially so, because the assistance from the police has been totally inadequate.

I ask "Is anything being done to help fine Madeleine?"

archer said...

Supertroll

Good point!

Whilst we can walk away from this, dipping in and out as we wish, for Kate and Gerry it is a constant. Lest we forget that.

Christabel said...

Afternoon all,

supertroll very good point you make as usual.

Archer, where ya bin stranger hope your ok.

Christabel said...

Naughty me sorry Di,
good posts from you today and very true.

Hiya Sass,
hadn't better leave you out lol.

archer said...

Hiya Christabel

I'm fine thanks.

Dipping in and out! :¬)

Mandz said...

Hi All,

Dianeh and supertroll I agree with all you have said.

DianeH,
JT has always come across confident, calm and certain of what she saw which was the girls pyjamas and that is why they are certain she is telling the truth.
I don’t believe their friends would lie anyway and take such a risk all in the name of the McCann’s.

Supertroll,
Like you I agree there are many cases of child neglect therefore perhaps some people should get their teeth into the real cases of child neglect and not set upon people who made a terrible mistake. They are suffering and will do so for the rest of their lives. Jamie Bulgar mother does not need reminding that she should have kept her eye on her little boy yet bashing this couple has become a sport for some sick evil nasty human beings.

I feel sick for Maddie who has been let down by the police who have in my opinion allowed the real criminal to take a child away for fear of loosing Tourist Money.
What this family have gone through and going through is unbelievable and heartbreaking. All they want is their child back and yet we still have the sick and evil reminding them what they did however never mentioning the real criminal in this or other people who also left their children and were lucky.

Frightening to think that they have had no communication from the PJ to inform them of what they are doing about THEIR little girl. How sad and frightening for them. I am utterly scunnered.

I pray Maddie will be found and that Met3 get a real break through.

Bye for now..

Mandz said...

Hi Archer,

The slurs, smears and speculation have been truly horrific. All unfounded nonsense put out to paint Kate and Gerry as neglectful and wicked parents. The ignorant and the callous have latched onto this as being truthful, therefore the parents must be guilty of a dreadful crime! In truth, they are guilty, guilty of an error of judgement in thinking that their daughter would be safe in her bed. Guilty for not thinking that some sicko would come along and take her. Guilty!

*********************************
Exactly. It is horrific what has been allowed to happen to this couple. The PJ have had this couple over a barrel for so long now and the McCann’s relied and trusted they were doing THEIR job in finding their child and in my opinion they have been kicked in the teeth and poor Maddie let down. DISGUSTING.
Where is this child and what the hell are the police doing in finding MADDIE and the REAL CRIMINAL/S????

supertroll said...

Archer, Christabel
I cannot bear to think what the constant pain must be.

Mandz,
It is unbelievable that your own child can be missing and yet the police will not give you any indication of what they know or if they are even still searching...

It is incredibly cruel too. No wonder they need to employ people to investigate.

As for the ghouls...can be said about them that has not been said already? Yesterday was a new low.
It has become a sport for them with some truly evil ones controlling the game and all the other idiots following.

I am off out as its a lovely day here, but will catch up with you all later.

ST

calcite51 said...

Good morning, all. Hope you are all well.

Diane, interesting take on the documentary - ie - why weren't the police call until later? Now, you've given an explanation that really makes sense.

Jane Tanner - I've seen a news program where she spoke. She came across as very thruthful.

J J said...

Why is everybody concentrating on the McCanns?
Any pain they feel is nothing, compared with Madeleine's.
The parents may, or may not be complicit in Madeleine's disappearance.
Madeleine is the only one we can be sure is totally innocent.
Anything else is just personal opinion.
We are all entitled to our opinions but please, do not put opinions
over as fact.
The only person who knows that there was an abduction, is the abductor. Unless he/she had an audience. Everything else is speculation.
Personally, I hope that we will soon know exactly what happened to that poor little girl.
But then, I have been hoping that for nearly a year now.
Madeleine, You are the only one who matters!

Sass said...

JJ

because we know what the McCanns are going through. We don't even know if Madeleine is alive - some here believe she is, I don't and the ghoulish theories about what could have happened to her we leave to the blog you usually post on.

If we find the way the McCanns are being treated is unfair, then we will comment on it. I agree that the one who has suffered the most here is Madeleine. However, her parents are suffering too.

Absolutely anything that is said whether on this blog or any other is speculation because noone knows what happened. We don't write IMO in front of every sentence - we all know what we mean and that IMO is to be taken as read.

calcite51 said...

JJ
Attacking and crucifying the Mccanns as on the other blog, helps Madeleine how??

And that misinformation on the blog is based on theories - they have no more concrete evidence about the case than we do.

J J said...

Calcite 51
I agree, No-one has any information about what happened to Madeleine.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I just wish that people wouldn't put their opinion over as fact.
I post very rarely, but I read everything I can find every day. I do that in the hope that I can find information.
I hope that tomorrow when I switch on my computer, there will be real news. But then I hope that every day.
Fingers crossed for Madeleine x x

calcite51 said...

JJ - shouldn't you be helping your buddies on the other blog give Amaral a farewell party or a book signing party or something?

calcite51 said...

Ok, JJ - our conversation is finished. I have told other bloggers when we are visited by the "Other side" to ignore the visiting bloggers and that is what I am going to do now as the visiting bloggers upset regular bloggers here and there is no need for it (IMHO).

Tinkerbell43 said...

JJ

This site is for Madeleine & ALL the family.

There is little we can do physically for Madeleine, we remember her everyday in our thoughts and prayers. What we also try to do is support her parents who are suffering the most unimaginable pain and who have been subjected to the most awful hate campaign I have ever witnessed.

We believe Madeleine was abducted, and we also strongly feel she has been let down badly by the PJ. There are many people questionning the McCs but on here we believe the PJ have many, many questions to answer.

A lot of our opinions are based on named, reputable sources, not speculation and wild gruesome theories.

Madeleine matters to us very much, but on here so do her mummy, daddy and wider family.

calcite51 said...

Hey, Tinkerbell - glad you're on - did you see you got an invitation from Viv/Felicity to join their blog?

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hey Calcite,

No, I've not had the pleasure, lol, one of my nephews is 16 today so I have been out most of the day.

If you have the stomach, please enlighten me!

Tinkerbell43 said...

Is JJ a contributor on the house of hell ?

Sass said...

Tinks got an invite to join the dark side? Don't forget the vaccinations Tinks!

calcite51 said...

Okay, Tinkerbell - here's your invite from Viv herself:

You know guys I think Tinks has changed sides and I am just waiting for the penny to drop with Rosiepoops and then the sparks will fly. This post by her is truly staggering, flagging up the golden hour (where McCanns did not bother to call the police) and it is all in police manuals (which Gerry had)

Do you know I hope she sends an email to join, because she is starting to write some pretty good stuff:-)

Tinks I read between the lines and see exactly where you are coming from - well done!!!!
Viv x


Tinkerbell43 said...
Yes Rosie they did say that. It was also after the apartment had been opened up and relet.

Did you also hear that although the FSS would not give out any information, a senior scientist (P.Hackett) did STRESS how important it was to preserve the crime scene. He referred to the golden hour and said something about it being in all police training manuals!

I think if you read between the lines you will get the gist of what he was STRESSING.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Afternoon All,

See there has been some very good posts today. Nice to see Archer pop in too.

Sass said...

Tinks

He is indeed, but his post wasn't nasty, so I left it. He doesn't post much though.

Sass said...

Tinks, do we need to exorcise you?!

calcite51 said...

Tinkerbell - are you still there? I'm not giving you a heart attack am I?

Sass said...

Sorry, where are my manners (answers on a postcard please!)

Hiya to everyone - good posts!

calcite51 said...

Yes, Tinkerbell JJ is one of the contributors from The House of Hell.

Mandz said...

JJ,

Everyone is not concentrating on the McCann’s Maddie is in most of the above posts if you take the time to read them.

As for facts DianeH was talking about the panorama documentary where it was said in newspapers that the police think she was buried in Spain however we know they had a friend with them filming the trip therefore this is indeed “fact” so what the newspapers or PJ were claiming was rubbish. Another fact is Maddie is missing which we were discussing and how sad that is. You mentioned the only person who knows she was abducted is the abductor not true Maddie’s parents know this. Another fact we are discussing is the smears and lies told about them hence the McCann’s won a lump sum against the DX for this so we have another fact which was a pack of lies told about them. The head of the PJ went on record to say his junior staff were leaking and that he put it down to lack of experience so here we have another fact.

As for the McCann’s I don’t believe they are involved and that is just my take on it and I do believe in innocent until prove guilty. Like you I hope we get to find out what happened to her and where she is and I hope the real criminal/s get caught.

calcite51 said...

Mandz - very well said

Mandz said...

Hi Calcite and Tinks!

Hope all well! Just going off for a bit!

Rosiepops said...

Afternoon Everyone,

Diane EXCELLENT posts and please do not dare to apologise for making extremely good posts full of pertinent information and facts!

calcite51 said...

Tinkerbell - have you registered yet on the other side?

Rosiepops said...

Hi supertroll

You are right too, why are people fixated on the McCann's and them leaving their children to dine while they ate close by, when there are so many real and horrific cases of neglect in the world against children?

Many in Portugal too, why don't the Portuguese sort out their problems with street children and child prostitution before trying to condemn the McCann's to hell, for caring for their children but making a mistake?

Rosiepops said...

Hi Mandz

Great post agree with every single thing.

Rosiepops said...

Calcite

Have you registered yet?

Rosiepops said...

Sorry Mandz

meant to ask if you had registered too?

calcite51 said...

Rosiepops - you know they won't have me. Viv and I have rendez vous on your site. I think Sass was trying to sell me to them one day - no takers.LOLLLLLLOLOLLLLLLL

Rosiepops said...

Hi Tinks

I see the idiots think they can cause trouble between us.

Just when you think they cannot get a thicker, they do just that!

calcite51 said...

I have very little patience or use for people who attack people based on rumours. So, over on that site, I'm sure I would calling them names and I would have been banned after 5 seconds (just like their friend 2345).

Rosiepops said...

Sorry calcite

I wasn't talking about that site, I will send you an email and explain, don't worry it's all good!
Look out for an email from me, some exciting new stuff happening!

J J said...

Calcite 51
All I am trying to do is find out if anyone has any information. Why do you have to be so abusive?
I haven't been rude to you or anyone else.

Rosiepops said...

Tinks

Let me know if you are going to take up your invite from the House of Hell and child abducter defenders and I will arrange for a decontamination when you come out. PMSL

Sass said...

Hiya Rosie

Calcite - had forgotten I'd tried to sell you to that place!

Christabel said...

Hi Rosie, calcite and everyone else,

Rosie see mail.
Be back later x darlings.

calcite51 said...

No, Rosie - this blog is the only blog I belong to now or in the past. I've never been on a blog before this one and between work and family, I really don't have the time to be on another blog.

I have a lot of passion for this case, so I'm here for the duration.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi Calcite,

She has 2 hopes, Bob and No lol.

She's best left in her own little world, I prefer to stay in the real one.

Everybody knows how bad her judgement is, so I wont take it as a compliment.

joanypony said...

HiRosie and all,

Just to let you know I have registered.

Can't stay, off out for the evening, will probably not be in fit state to communicate when I get back, hopefully. LOL!

calcite51 said...

JJ - sorry if you think I was rude. And I was.

We've had a few bloggers from the other site and all they've done is cause trouble and bad feelings amongst us.

So, no, your post was not rude but...

Rosiepops said...

calcite

Poor Mrs co. Numbers, is in a really bad way on the 3 A's site apparently, she thinks she is a clone and I am not joking, I feel so bad for her, she needs help and I praying that someone gets it for her. I lay the blame for this right at filthy Felicity/Viv's door, we tried to tell them what was happening to this poor lady and that awful hateful person would not listen and her and others actually encouraged her and now look what they have done.
The nastiest thing to was when they saw how far gone this poor woman actually was and realised that she was no further use to them they just cast her aside in the gutter.

Really nice people huh?

calcite51 said...

And JJ - even if we had information - we know that you could innocently take it over there and by the end of the day, the information would be twisted with their special take on it. Sicko bunch.

Rosiepops said...

Hi Joany

Yes I saw that you had registered!

hey you bad wanton woman, sounds like you are out for a good night, please stay away from any highways! lol And if you come back richer than when you went out and you cannot remember how that happened, we will know! pmsl

hope you have a great time xxx Don't get too much of a headache, we need you posting tomorrow, I would imagine there may be some stuff in the Sundays to read and debate.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi Rosie,

I didnt realise 2345 is in such a bad way.

I knew they had cast her aside, what a heartless bunch. How do they sleep at night, hanging upside down I suppose!

Rosiepops said...

Joany

Without saying too much, what did you think? Or have you not had time to look around properly yet?

calcite51 said...

I wondered about Mrs. Cons. Number way back when Alsabella's site was still going and I made a comment about Amaral being charged with regards to the Joanna case. Mrs. Cons. Number yelled at me to PROVIDE THE LINK with that information. Then she turned on everyone on the blog and started fighting with all of them.

calcite51 said...

I hope Mrs. Consecutive Number's family is looking out for her and is taking care of her (but it doesn't look that way, does it?)

joanypony said...

Rosie,

Well impressed and managed to navigate, may need help later!!

Rosiepops said...

Tinks

yes Jane was telling me, I know we disagree on just about everything but I do really feel for her 2345 Tinks, she needs help, we see this coming, pity that filthy Viv didn't and some doctor notdoc isNT, he should have recognised the signs ages ago, just like we did.

Rosiepops said...

calcite,

I dont think her family realise either, but surely she must be exhibiting signs in real life? I mean hand delivering letters to poor Mrs Healy, must have been a huge give away surely?

Calcite did you see my posts about sending you and email about something important?

I am just off to do it now for you!

Rosiepops said...

Joany

So glad you like it, it will get a lots easier and there is so much other stuff too!

calcite51 said...

Yes, Rosie - saw it am anxiously awaiting it. I have to leave to get my mop cut and afterwards my daughter and I are off to the vets to take her (my) diabetic cat in for his check up. He was a birthday present to her when she was 13 - she moved out but the cat stayed behind. She's now 24 and we are going out after to celebrate her birhtday. So if you don't hear from me this p.m. - you'll know why.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Rosie,

That has upset me, they have a lot to answer for on that blog.

My thoughts go out to 2345, please god she gets the help she needs.

Sass said...

Tinks

I feel the same. For a short while what she was coming out with was quite funny, but it was suddenly obvious that all was not well.

She was being totally encouraged to get worse by Vile's bunch. That dappy drip Marga said she should work for the PJ and as soon as she got seriously weird Vile just knocked her off her blog.

Typical

J J said...

Calcite 51
I thought that if there was any information about Madeleine everyone would be glad to share it with the world. I would.
I just think everyone is entitled to their opinion, even if I don't happen to agree with it.
And I would never be rude to someone just because they didn't agree with me.
Just the way I was brought up, I suppose.

calcite51 said...

JJ - then I apologize. I was brought up that way too. I took everyone at face value until I started to comment on the HYS DE and was continuously attacked. And after DE closed their HYS and blog started to pop up, I would comment on Alsabella until I found this one and I got badly attacked because my opinions were not in line with theirs.

Since I've come to this blog - we've had many visitors from the other blog and they're welcome to participate but quite a few of them have been very, very ignorant to the bloggers on this blog.

Actually, if you come after hours, I'm very, very, funny - ask Viv on that one. She and I have had a discussion after hours. She can vouch that I'm funny.

JJ - if there was any credible information, I'm sure you would hear about it too.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but when one's opinion is based on a blog filled with anger, then I'm leery of any member from that blog.

calcite51 said...

Rosie - I've registered - it looks very good.

I'm off everyone - see you all later.

JJ good luck in your quest for news. Hopefully, there will be news soon.

J J said...

Calcite 51
Fair enough

Rosiepops said...

calcite

Hope you have a very lovely evening and hop moggy is fine too.

I have sent your mail now x

Sass said...

See you Calcite

Glad you like it!

Sass said...

Rosie

What's a "hop moggy"? A cat without the full compliment of legs?

Rosiepops said...

Sass

ROTFLMAO

Hop moggy three legged cat!

Sass said...

"Hope you have a very lovely evening and hop moggy is fine too."

Poor little cat was only going in for an injection!

Rosiepops said...

Calcite

You will have to follow through by answering the link!

Rosiepops said...

sass

good job I am not a vet!

Sass said...

Right on, Rosie! Cat goes in a diabetic and comes out a tripod!

Sass said...

Off for a while

See you later

calcite51 said...

Oh, Viv is going to be so offended with you Sass. First you try to sell me to her, now you're picking on my poor fat diabetic cat - you know how Viv feels about animal abuse, don't you?

Rosiepops said...

Sass

is that a three legged cat I see before thee?

Rosiepops said...

I would like to interview Nanday and ask what it thinks of animal abuse and keeping parrots by loose electrical flexes!

calcite51 said...

rosie - thanks I was able to complete the task thanks to your e-mail.

calcite51 said...

Rosie, please don't forget to e-mail Melbel.

Sass said...

Will be back soon! Just finishing some clearing up.

Waves to Vile!!!

Calcite - it's Rosie who was talking about "hop moggy" !!!

Rosie - don't forget the filth on the wall!

Sass said...

Hiya

Anyone around?

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi Sass,

I'm here!

Sass said...

Hiya Tinks

Saw you a couple of minutes ago! Good innit!

calcite51 said...

Hey, Leigh and Viv - it takes one to know one and the correct term is mentally challenged. Get with the times, you ole battleaxes!! you two are an absolute disgrace.

Sass said...

Calcite

Popped over to the bleugh by any chance!!??

Tinkerbell43 said...

Yes Sass, it is!

No doubt I'll have to do a little stumbling!

Rosiepops said...

calcite

Are you still around? If you are you have to activate your account from your email, this completes the registration.

Where are you? Out for the night?

What time is it where you are?

Must See if we can get some clocks that tell us what time it is in other parts of the world.

Rosiepops said...

Sass

so what is wrong with my snotinator?

I thought it looked like Vile

Rosiepops said...

tinks

Pmsl, have you stopped coming over all unnecessary now? ROTFLMAO How the heck do you manage to get in those places?

Tinkerbell43 said...

Rosie,

Dont ask! I've just spent the past hour scanning incase I've picked up any infections!

Sass said...

Tinks - just you stumble away. So, tell me, how does it feel to be told that if you applied for membership to Vile's psycho blog you'd get in!???

Rosie - it probably does!

Calcite - see what you mean now!

Rosiepops said...

No you only get those if you go to the dark side!

calcite51 said...

Hey, Rosie, it's a 2:40 p.m. here. I think I've done everything Rosie - I managed to leave a message. If not, will look at what else I have to do tonight.

Yep, went over to the other bleugh. And their followers come here and they want me to be nice to them. They infuriate me. Diane wrote a well written comment on the docu she saw and those two hateful broads.....

Rosiepops said...

calcite

have those two crones been upsetting you again?

I only popped in to see Viv's family portrait yesterday, haven't been back since, but cannot seem to stop whistling that theme tune from the Adam's family.

Rosiepops said...

Calcite,

the thing is that they recognise what Diane wrote is the truth, they do not like the truth, so they counteract that by attacking and insulting!

Sass said...

Calcite

You have done everything! Nowt else necessary.

Rosie

Vile and Leigh are being vile to an (absent) poster from here again. That's just about their level isn't it.

Rosiepops said...

Sass,

I shan't bother to read it, but that is their level yes, they are just complete ugly minded bitches, best ignored.

I admire them truth be known, because I just don't know hoe they manage to use their keyboards while they are in their straight jackets.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hey Sass,

Insulted!

Rosiepops said...

Besides all that they are just jealous of Diane's obvious intelligence and abilities.

helenm said...

Hi folks,

Sorry I've not been around much (for those who noticed I haven't been here, !!! or words to that effect) but everyone and his wife has descended on me today.

Rosiepops said...

Helen

Thank God you are here, I was worried sick that Gonc had eaten you at the BBQ yesterday!

helenm said...

Tinks,
I'm nearly in mourning!!! Stuffy b........ds.

Sass said...

Hiya Helen

Do you like my tribute to Vile. Reckon I found her portrait?

helenm said...

Rosie, thanks for your concern, I would have thought that Goncalo Amaral had ENOUGH ON HIS PLATE!!!! without piling more trouble on it!!

Sass said...

Tinks

This is your BIG chance! You could have deep and meaningful debates about . . . You could . . . Oh well, you'd better stay here then! :-)

helenm said...

Hiya Sass, is that trailer trash I see?!!!

Rosiepops said...

Helen

ROTFLMAO but I hope he likes bread and water!

Rosiepops said...

Sass,

personally I think comparing a trailer to viles is an insult to the trailer.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Sass,

She did say I could bring a friend!
Dont all rush, lol.

Sass said...

You see right, Our 'Ell!

Sass said...

Ooh Tinks, me, me, me, me!

Rosiepops said...

Tinks

guess that rules me out because apparently we will not be friends when I discover what you wrote in your email!

not only is the Vile deluded she is now seeing things that are not there!

helenm said...

Sas,

Much prefer the doggy avatar. Is this another of your charges?

Tinkerbell43 said...

Helen,

Over Chelsea or the fact you didnt get an invite to Viles ?

helenm said...

Well now you come to mention it Tinks,BOTH!!!

mark said...

Hi everyone
If Gonco wants to write a book about his theories regarding Maddies disappearance then he must be pretty sure the case will never be solved , yet he will have seen all the evidence the PJ have .What does that tell us?
there is no case against the McCanns .

helenm said...

On second thoughts Tinks, just Chelsea. I wouldn't want to get deep and meaningful with TW, would be too scared to see what was within her!!

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi Mark,

I was saying this yesterday, if he is so certain they were guilty, there is no way imo he would even retire. He would not need to regain freedom of speech!

Rosiepops said...

Hi Mark

It tells us exactly that, but we have known for months that the Pj has no evidence.

What else it tells us is that Gonc is the kind of low life scum that would write a book about a missing child in order to make money out of it and have no reservations about it, neither about him doing his job so badly that he is responsible for allowing child abductors to get away with their crime!

How can he sleep at night?

mark said...

i like this quote from leigh on the vile blog ...

leigh3 said...
"Never leave babies or young children alone, whether sleeping or awake, even for a few minutes."

So we have to take turns sitting up all night and day watching our children .

Do they realise how stupid their ideas are ?

Sass said...

Helen

I just wrote you a major long text and it disappeared.

Short answer to your question is no, not one of my charges. I now specialise in humungous, strong dogs which I won't get attached to. I am not going through the Sissi drama again!

Sass said...

Mark

Hi there - nice to see you! Great quote there! Straight from Dr Spock was it!

Rosiepops said...

Mark

Leigh3 is as ambiguous as her posts!

She is truly a horrible person, in each post her nastiness comes shining through (and her stupidity)

mark said...

Rosi,

Vile is giving her sycophants a lecture on law on her blog re a couple who were charged with perverting the course of justice after the death of their child . She doesnt seem to realise that the law has been changed to close this loophole . Does she really claim to be a lawyer ?

Christabel said...

Evening all,
just a quick visit.


Gonçalo Amaral is in danger of being punished by the disciplinary publication of the book. Even in retirement, the inspector must comply with the regulation of the police disciplinary.

I have a ringtone for Gonc, if he wants it.
Its called "you fat Ba***d" or another one he can have is "I'm stood next to a ringtone Wa***r"

Sass said...

Actually I am beginning to see why Leigh thinks as she does - I'm thinking sleep depravation here!

Rosiepops said...

Oh and Mark

not as stupid as the time Arsabliar told me on the DX HYS, that she takes all her children to the bathroom with her when she goes, so she does not take her eyes off of them for a second!

This was in response to me asking her what she would do if one of her children went missing while she was in the bathroom!

I did ask what her children did for a mother while she was on her computer 24/7, but she failed to answer me!

Sass said...

That should have read

deprivation!

helenm said...

Sass,

Lost quite a few posts over the last few days, very frustrating. Think you'll find that humungous doesn't mean not cute and loveable!!lol

Sass said...

Hiya Chris

Hope everything is going OK!

Rosiepops said...

Hi Christabel

pmsl I think he should have the second one!

Sass said...

Rosie

What a fun place to grow up. Your mum is on the computer the whole time and only calls you to her when she wants to go to the loo so you can all squash into the bathroom together.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hey Christabel,

What about, "Who ate all the pies"

Nice to see you pop in, hope all is ok.

mark said...

Rosi ,

I think thats child abuse .

helenm said...

OOOOOHHHHHHHH Sass, stop it!!!!PMSL
Sass said,

'What a fun place to grow up. Your mum is on the computer the whole time and only calls you to her when she wants to go to the loo so you can all squash into the bathroom together.'

Rosiepops said...

Mark

Not only does she clain to be a lawyer, she also maintains she has a 2nd career as a probation officer!

If she is a lawyer I am as rich as Prince Charles!

Did you tell her that the loophole has been closed?

The stupid thing is, that those gullible fools actually believe her!

The scariest thing is they also vote!

Sass said...

Humungous means like a blo'dy camel!

With the one the chances of my feet touching the ground are nought and the other one is an elderly gentledog of about 11 - but he's a really big dog. He doesn't pull at all - in fact I have to slow right down for him. He was very unhappy when he first came in because his owner had died. Seems to have got used to it now though.

They're both lovely dogs with lovely characters but not lovely enough for me to get too attached. Sissi drama never again!

Rosiepops said...

sass

ROTFLMAO

Now I have a image of them all piled into one of Gina's bathrooms!

mark said...

One last comment before I rush off to work on my book "the lie about the lie about the truth ".

If Maddie was abducted the the abductor must be pretty pleased with vile's blog as it takes the attention away . Perhaps he even posts on the blog ?

Christabel said...

Tinks,

they are proper ring tones honestly.
My son had the first one on when he was in a RAF exam last year an he forgot to turn his phone off.
He thought the boss would rollick him but he asked him to send it to him lol.

calcite51 said...

Hi, Mark - agree with your comments about the vile site. They are making less and less sense everyday!

Rosiepops said...

Mark

We have said this before haven't we? The abductor will be absolutely deliriously happy with blogs like Viles, as it takes away the heat from them and as for posting on that vile place, well let's just say I would not be surprised, not at all! And one person stands out above all others too!

what is your book about? Or is is a secret? maybe you will tell us when you have finished it? Good luck with it anyway.

Hope to see you again soon!

meanwhile could you drop me an email on this address as i have something to tell you from all of us.

atticusfinch80@hotmail.co.uk

Rosiepops said...

Christabel

OMG that must have been one of those moments!

Rosiepops said...

Calcite

There you are! You keep popping up like a Jack in the box, you must be very tired?

Rosiepops said...

Sorry Calcite,

I thought it was Am not pm!

Sass said...

Our 'Ell and Rosie

I can imagine all these little noses squashed against the window and noone being able to move thanks to the safe and secure environment.

Rosiepops said...

Would they be wearing their gas masks?

Tinkerbell43 said...

Night all, cant keep my eyes open any longer.

Se you tomorrow, take care, sleep well xxx

helenm said...

Sass,

Is Rosie's avatar cute enough for you?

helenm said...

Tinks, night and sleep well.

Rosiepops said...

I thought this was ironic, obviously in the case of Doppel someone else wasn't afraid of using the delete button!

Doppelganger has left a new comment on the post "TRAGIC CHILD HOMICIDE DATA":

Dolores,

'I've got a delete button and I'm not afraid to use it!!!!!!'

I will really have to be on my best behaviour now ;-)

Post a comment.

Unsubscribe to comments on this post.

Posted by Doppelganger to JUSTICE FOR MADDIE AND THE TWINS at Monday, 14 April 2008 22:56:00 o'clock BST

Rosiepops said...

Tinks

Good night sleep well take care, see you tomorrow xxx

Rosiepops said...

helen

That is an actual picture of Sass!

Sass said...

Night Tinks - you lightweight!

Rosiepops said...

Pmsl! They are all sitting around waiting for the bad guys to turn up! LOL Who would that be then? their blog is closed and they are all moderators! Oh dear not thesharpest tools in the box are they?

dolores has left a new comment on the post "TRAGIC CHILD HOMICIDE DATA":

Viv /Claudia
That's both of you zapped, now bring on the bad guys, I am waiting.
LOL
XX D

Posted by dolores to JUSTICE FOR MADDIE AND THE TWINS at Monday, 14 April 2008 22:53:00 o'clock BST

Sass said...

That's right - it's a picture of me reading Vile's!

Rosiepops said...

Sass

Tinks only tells us she is going to bed, what she is really doing is surfing around for her special sites.

Sshhh don't tell her I said thia will you?

helenm said...

Gosh Sass, didn't realise you were soooooooooooooo..........good looking!!

Ok then, demented!

Sass said...

Helen

I'm a stunner! Jealous now, eh?

Rosiepops said...

Helen

that is her on a good day, you ought to see her when she makes Chelsea buns!

Sass said...

Rosie

That's mean! Poor ol' Tinks!

Dont Let Them Hurt Our Children said...

Just passing through ...
Hello everyone !

Rosiepops said...

Helen

This is sass when she is on troll patrol!

Rosiepops said...

Hi Janet

how are you? how goes it?

helenm said...

Hi Janet isn't it? Nice to see a friendly face, been left with the dregs tonight!

Talking of Chelsea buns Sass, did you make them, but more important, were they appreciated?

Sass said...

Hi there DLTHOC

Nice to see you again!

Rosiepops said...

sass

well it is the truth, didn't you ever wonder why Tinks was breathless?

helenm said...

See Sass, it's true, you can improve with rage, oops sorry meant age!

Rosiepops said...

Helen

You see my avatar? Well I am not afraid to use it?

Don't you get all cocky with us because you have been socialising with Gonc!

Sass said...

Did indeed our 'Ell. Or rather I am in the process. That is why I disappeared earlier! They are all chopped up and waiting to rise/or rising and will be baked probably first thing tomorrow morning.

Sass said...

Rosie

She'll kill you when she reads your comments!

Helen

Have every intention of growing old disgracefully!

Rosiepops said...

Oh right our Ell

I get it now! Your avatar is a picture of Arsaliar going to the bathroom, but where are her children? (Do you think she takes her pussy too?)

Rosiepops said...

I do mean pussy cat by the way!

Dont Let Them Hurt Our Children said...

Hey I'm fine Thanks ...

People are being urged to light candles and lanterns as the one year anniversary of Madeleine McCann's disappearance approaches.

The Helping to Find Madeleine group, which is affiliated to her parents' official organisation, has called its campaign Lighting the Way Home.


I am Just trying to spread this Message Further ...
could I ask You to post My Latest Video on Your Channel ?
Please xx

Rosiepops said...

Sass

who are you trying to kid? Those buns are those Pilsner ones! One tap and they come unrolled out of that cardboard tube!

Sass said...

Rosie

Rumbled!

Rosiepops said...

Janet

Sass or myself will have a go.

And we will spread the word about the candles, I think that is such a poignant beautiful thing to do.

Rosiepops said...

Sass

I know my buns!

helenm said...

Bl........dy h.....l Sass you did say you were making Cheslsea NOT ROCK buns didn't you?

Sass said...

Janet

Where do we find this video?

Sass said...

What's the matter our Ell? They are rising for the second time and are in oiled polythene. Will they go rock hard if I don't bake them for another few hours?

Dont Let Them Hurt Our Children said...

I also have some News of Hope Depending on what You May beleive in .. It is the Latest Post on this blog.
Catch You again Soon !
Janet
x

Rosiepops said...

Helen

come out this instant and stop lurking ready to pounce, I see that number too!

Rosiepops said...

janet

Sorry can you let us know which video you want us to put up and where to find it?

also the Hope message I would be interesting in seeing where is that?

helenm said...

Never entered my head Rosie.!!lol

Sass should be ok, but only need about one and half hours to double in size. Seems you like everything humungous!!!

Rosiepops said...

HELEN COME OUT!

Sass she is lurking again!

Rosiepops said...

helen stop telling everyone!

Rosiepops said...

Janet

are you still there? did you see our posts to you just now?

helenm said...

You rang?

helenm said...

yes

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