Sunday, 6 April 2008

Madeleine McCann - Remember Me - Justice For Paedophiles

Justice for Madeliene McCann. Who is to blame ?

I Madeleine McCann would like to say aside from mummy and daddy - as long as YOU remember me then I live in hope of coming home. It has been many days since my disappearance and if each and everyone one of you continues to keep me in your thoughts then I will have a lot of thanking to do on my return.

Madeleine McCann was kidnapped from her holiday apartment in Praia Da Luz Portugal on May 3rd 2007 - which seems a life time ago. The hunt still goes on for the missing girl and more to the pity that a hunt was ever sanctioned in the first place. You hear a lot of good and bad stories involving the parents of little Madeleine, Gerry and Kate. We now have a situation "The Good the Bad and the Ugly."

The finger of suspicion has been pointed at Kate and Gerry as to being involved with their own daughter's abduction. The reason for a conclusion as such is because we see no tears. Is this a good enough reason to make accusations on assumptions? People grieve in different ways and this is why we can not be judgmental. What goes on behind closed doors of Gerry and Kate McCanns apartment can only be described as living in a torture chamber of horrors, - reliving every minute of that fateful day, - not knowing where Madeleine McCann is, or wondering is she dead or alive. You may bet those tears flowed till they were both stood in puddles up to their knees. Stop Gerry and Kate from drowning in their own tears and let us find Madeleine.

Missing Madeleine McCann may return home one day just as long as you and I continue to be vigilant on our travels. It is the least we can do for this poor unfortunate innocent little girl who is the real true victim in all this and especially more so if in the hands of a paedophile ring.

A new proposed law of late is that convicted paedophiles will undergo chemical castration "Hallelujah" but hey hold up the best is yet to come, it is only enforced if the criminal agrees to it. Where is the justice in that, I ask you. Did Madeleine and hundreds of other missing children give their consent to be taken away from their loving families? There is no room for argument here, abolish this hideous proposal of chemical castration and do the job right, Yeah you got it in one - CUT IT OFF and their hands too.. This is what you call justice. This sentence will not bring back a dead child or ease the pain of one tortured after falling into the hands of evil predators; however it certainly makes you feel better knowing they can not commit any more bad doings again.

This is one is for the government who on every opportunity infringe our rights. You put a ban on us - where we no longer can smoke in public - you put a ban on us - where we can no longer chastise our kids, you put a ban on us where we can no longer correct a naughty child in the supermarket, you even put a ban on us from being heard. Now stop enforcing nonsensical laws like chemical castration and protect our children. By doing your job right - we will no longer care about your banning laws as long as one of those bans are to banish paedophiles from the face of this earth.

http://www.buzzle.com/articles/madeleine-mccann-remember-me-justice-for-paedophiles.html

194 comments:

Sass said...

We did talk about what to do with paedophiles before and this article mentions chemical castration. A policeman who came to our school to talk about self-defence also said that paedophiles and sex offenders who can't abuse people as they would want (to put it "nicely") would simply use another object. Therefore, chopping off their hands would make sense. Can't imagine that going through parliament though!

Christabel said...

Shannon Inquiry: Police Arrest Mother.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1311968,00.html?&lid=NEWS_TAB_SHANNON_INQUIRY_POLICE_ARREST_MOTHER&lpos=TABCONTENT

This is the woman that TWS said showed proper grief when Shannon went missing.
Sorry to put this on here Sass, but Its good to see how wrong that lot is about this woman.
She is evil.

Sass said...

Christabel

You put what you want here! Doesn't bother anyone.

Will have a look at the link. Thanks!

Hope you're OK.

Sass said...

Rosie's poll is over:

"If the PJ do not make it to the UK on April 7th, what do you think will be their excuse this time?"

First place was

- Alsabella grabbing their ankles so they couldn't board the plane! (64%)

Second was

- Got waylaid at Faro airport by Irina asking about the Escape Goats

Third was

Accosted by Mrs Consecutive Numbers taking Eddie and Keela for a walk

Fourth was

Couldn't escape from Clawd Ear!

Tinkerbell43 said...

Morning All,

Just popping in on Troll Patrol.

Christabel, you took the words right out of my mouth.

You cannot judge a book by its cover, for those that have, how fooled were you and you have the audacity to question the emotions of Gerry & Kate. You are clueless.

Mum21 said...

Good Morning All.
Just a brief look in before I go to the dentist....ouchhhhhhh.

I just looked in at the Vile blog and could not believe the chaos there last night and early this morning. Docmac under attack from Viv...oh my goodness.

Nothing on God's earth could get me to post on that blog...it is evil to the core.

On the subject of Shannon Matthews....it does not surprise me at all that her mother has been arrested. At least Shannon has some sense and wants to stay with her foster parents.

If you don't mind ladies...I have a little advice I would like to post here for the anti's and the Portuguese posters.
Never judge a book by its cover...because the contents are often far more enlightening. As in the Shannon Matthews case.

To Viv, You were so very wrong about Karen Matthews when you stated she looked how a mother should look when her child goes missing. Seeing as you were so wrong over the Matthews case....I think the chances of you being wrong over the McCann's case is 99%.
The reason I have come to this conclusion is you do tend to judge a book by its cover. You never look deeper than the surface.

Well Ladies...hopefully the PJ are on their way. Let the interviews commence...and the truth be told.
At least these interviews will be in English...and recorded.
May the PJ learn over the next few days just how interviews should be done.
See you all later.

kiwigirl said...

Just popping in and out again as the lad is up having another dinner - at 10.45pm!

Diane just wanted to say that hte attack on you by those on the other blog was unwarrented and absolutely below the belt, they ought to be ashamed of themselves!

Hope the PJ have arrived and about to start asking the questions which might start to unravel what really happened and will allow Kate and Gerry to clear their names very soon. Hopefully also this part of the investigation, which to my mind should have been done months ago, will perhaps shed some new light on the whereabouts of Madeleine.

Anyway said three year old is now sitting on me pointing at everyone avatars and saying ' a puppy' or 'a necklace' Had better get him back into bed....

Have a great day over there!

helenm said...

Hi to all those online,

Just to let you know that the sun doesn't always shine on te RIGHTOUS!!! It is persisting just now, off to the shops.

Mum good luck at the dentist. I have a check up man at 10a.m. and the dentist has just rung to remind me!!! How could I forget?

I have just looked in on TWS and to be honest I think I must be a masochist. Why oh why do I let TW make me feel so dirty and oh so angry? Making noises about children's faces not being shown on blogs, think she has forgotten the picture of Amelie and some other child she posted a few days ago.

Whilst I am on I want to apologise for not sying goodnight last night. My computer wasn't responding and then just crashed on me. Gave it up as a bad job aand went to bed.

I shall reserve feelings on the Shannon investigation until I have more news.

helenm said...

RIGHOUS should read RIGHTEOUS

Sass said...

Hiya Helen, Mum21, Kiwigirl and Tinkz

How are you all doing?

Well said, Mum. It certainly was chaos over there.

Kiwigirl it certainly was unwarranted. Hope you got the little fellow back to sleep!

Helen, if the sun always shone of the righteous then TW must be very pale!

JANEGT said...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/weather/article3695040.ece?&EMC-Bltn=PKYAU8

morning all!!

a somewhat 'frosty welcome' today FOR THE VISITING pj is it not???

I can see Felicity can dish out ridiculous stories re child rearing, but doesn't like it herself shen she gets a small taste of her own poison medicine.

biter bit.

GOOD!!!

At her age, she should know better, a LOT BETTER.

Mum21 said...

They have arrived...at last.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1311972,00.html

calcite51 said...

Mum21 - about time the PJ's arrived. Let the questioning began. It's been a long time in coming this day. I guess the tapas 7 can leave anytime and they won't have a lawyer in the room as they are witnesses and not arguidos.

Police won't be able to take the cat or Kate's diaries for now. Implies to me that the PJ's have really made a mess of investigating this case and that there is NO evidence which is what people on this site has been saying all along.

calcite51 said...

Paedophiles are the sickest animals in the human race. They should be put on a deserted island, surrounded by sharks and left to fend for themselves.

I have never heard of a paedophile being cured.

calcite51 said...

This case absolutely broke my heart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWow42TCwzg

I think Social Services/judges have to become a lot more responsible in making judgement calls. This poor child was badly let down by a system designed to protect her.

calcite51 said...

HelenM - I agree with your comment about going on to TWS blog - it's always makes my blood pressure rise.

JANEGT said...

MORNING CHRISTABEL

Yes, thanks for posting up the arrest of the 'perfect mother' according to felicity. another one she got wrong.

Just seen McCanns on news, and PJ leave on Friday and have list of 50 people to interview on behalf of McCanns.

Daughter off camping soon, so have been cooking for them this morning and packing it in little containers. Phew. They are stark raving bonkers going in this weather. No snow, but forecast later. At least the tents are waterproof....... The things you do when you are young.

I am afraid I like my comforts far too much.

JANEGT said...

Mum21

I agree with your thoughts on the Shannon case I am sorry to say. It is all seemingly unravelling now. Shannon at least nw is happier and in a carng home environment.

OUCH DENTIST...... ;o(((( Not my favourite pastime. Hope it's just a check up......no 'jobs' to do. I am waiting for the 3 passengers to arrive so I can drive them and their sleeping bags, food, etc to the farm. It's only about 24 mile round trip so not bad at all. I will quitte enjoy it really with no snow. I would not have done it yesterday for them...no way!!!

SASS

well said indeed......!!!!

JANEGT said...

CALCITE/HELEN

tws should carry 'this blog can seriously endanger your health' warning on it. Fear ye all who enter here indeed!!! Bigtime.

calcite51 said...

jane - you are absolutely right. Clawdia is advising blog members that the script has been well rehearsed (I'm assuming she means the witnesses). Maybe if the PJ's had done their jobs properly months ago the PJ's wouldn't have had to come to Britain.

Hope the chilly weather in Britain is the forebrooding background that Shakespeare was so fond of - chilly reception for the PJ's from the Leichestershire police force and the witnesses (50 of them apparently)....

calcite51 said...

Ladies, have a good day - I'm off to that dreaded four letter word again WORK.

JANEGT said...

CALCITE

Yes I agree re paedos too. I had hoped cc would disable the urges. If not, yep, desert island with snakes and sharks would be great idea. Like leper colony, a paedo place.... You are right, it cannot be cured. They are a lurking danger and have to be stopped, whatever it takes.

calcite51 said...

And if I ruled the world, I would allow these paedophiles on my deserted island surrounded by snakes (sorry Jane, I forgot the snakes - thanks for the reminder) and sharks, I would be humane and give them access to the internet FOR TWO SITES ONLY - Alsabella and TWS - not if that is NOT enough to send the paedophiles and those two over the edge. Who says there is no justice in the world?

Tinkerbell43 said...

The script has already been well rehearsed, lol, who leaked that one then!

Oh dear, they must be getting very worried, thats the best rehearsed excuse I've heard yet! You gotta give it to them for trying, lol.

helenm said...

Calcite you're right, running round in circles on TWS. So much for that poster 'sitting on the fence' what was her name? oh yes Ginam, hoping that the PJ have a couple of cards up their sleeve. Would that be to play poker on their extended lunch break?lol I am so glad that she is so objective like a passage from her post shows:

'The PJ have no more evidence than they had months ago so any questions will be related to what they would have asked months ago if they had been allowed to, and this bloody shower have not done anything to get these questions out of the way and stop all this speculation.'

This 'bloody shower' as you so quaintly put it were in Portugal and available for questioning, and indeed were questioned if what we read in the papers are true, by theteam headed by the oh so competant Goncalo Amaral. Hardly fair to blame the witnesses for the PJ's lack of interviewing skills,IMO. One of the 'bloody shower' JT asked to be re-interviewed but the PJ declined.

The PJ are coming to interview witnesses simply,IMO, to complete the re-investigation instigated by Paul Rebelo. The PJ had no credible 'evidence' under Goncalo Amaral, and no further 'evidence' will be found whilst in England. The file will be passed to the Prosecutor's office, perused over then the Mccann's arguido status will be lifted.

I see also that 2345 is 'speechless with rage' hope it's not life threatening!!

JANEGT said...

helen

the joy of 2345 being 'speechless' wish to god it stretched to her posting/s and brain..... if there is one. I retract that. None to get to.

JANEGT said...

afternoon TINKERBELL

How are you today? Sunny and cold here, no snow yet. Daughter off soon camping - rather her than me - so have been cooking little boxes of food etc for her to take and share. I am driver AGAIN naturally. They will be here soon, got 3 giggling girls of 16 - 18 to take, Ho Hum. Well if they don't do it at their age, they never will.

The 'lame' excuses dug up now show them up for what they are on the other blogs in my opinion. It shows.....clearly.

I am glad they are here, glad they are questionning 50 on the McCanns' list too. About bloody time. What have they been doing for last 11 months? Sod all I can see. Disgraceful.

JANEGT said...

HELEN
In name of heavens woman told you last night to cover up or you will get frostbite in nasty places, and docrot would have to massage and inject you to get better. DON'T RISK THAT.......

Now, be a dear and put something 'decent' on for us today. ;0)))))))))))))))) ???

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi Jane & Helen,

I'm good thanks, just popping in on troll patrol.

Helen, I agree 100% with your post at 15:10. If there was anything in these inconsistencies to push the investigation forward, these interviews would have been carried out a lot earlier than 11 months down the line.

Its about time, imo, they stopped making excuses and blaming everyone else and took some accountability for this shambles of an investigation.

JANEGT said...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1011266.ece

remind you of anyone's blog and picture at all?

;o)))))))))))))))))))))))))))

helenm said...

Jane,
that link coming up as error

melbel said...

Hi all
A bit of a quickie visit, as off out,but hope you are all well.We are all fine,at this end.Special thoughts for Tinks.
I think that some people, are just too stupid to read and understand properly.It was widely reported that K and G, were advised by experts on how to communicate,via the press, in a way that would not gratify their child's abductor and would offer more hope of her safe return.
Re paedophiles, often the abused children of yesterday and now adults, who can make choices, about their behaviour, the ones we hear about,including high profile celebs and people who go abroad to commit their vile deeds,appear to have little remorse and insight.
Therefore, in my own view, in the lack of hope that they can be rehabilitated, they need to stay in prison, where they cannot harm children.
Whatever systems are imposed, to check and monitor them they will find a way around it.
Well, today is the day and it occurred to me, that the delays could all be at the Portugese end re interviewing these many witnesses.
Thank God our Police are heavily involved.I wonder if Murat is one to be questioned.
Neither do I think that our Police leaked.The Guardian journalist, got an unusually full briefing from the Portugese Police sources, in the article which China kindly put up.
It looks like TWS posters are turning against each other now.
I think we will see more of that,as time goes on.
As for the likes of Vile,she will not share the closeness that we have with our children and I reckon you have to respect someone in order to care about, what they think.
My grown up children,were concerned about me coming on a blog, even though they understand now, that the regular posters, here are warm, kind, loving people and parents.
They will never have to live with the knowledge that their mother runs a hate blog, aimed at persecuting grieving parents, whose child has been abducted.
How do some of you people, live with your selves, the ones who accuse the Mccs of accidentally or deliberately, killing their child, in the absence of any evidence, in the public domain ?
Are you really that gullible and are you really that cruel ?
Bye for now.Hope to have more time tomorrow. x x x

melbel said...
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JANEGT said...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1011266.ece

does this work? sorry if not.....

Sass said...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol
/homepage/news/
article1011266.ece

Try this!

JANEGT said...

sass

thank you....I got error message too, then got booted off by google...tried Sun article again still came up as error. Oh dear. I think there is a jinx on just now.

anyway, it is a parrot post. ha ha ha

thanks for helping me out Sass.

appreciated. Daughter off at farm camping now .... ???? Oh dear.

Sass said...

Hiya Melbel

How ya doing? Hope everything is going well with mum and daughter (and with you too of course :-))

You're right about Vile's kids - I would be absolutely mortified if my mum was running such a bleugh as Vile's - and I'd be exceedingly worried about her too.

Have a good evening, Mellybelly

xxx

JANEGT said...

HELEN

sorry Sass has it in full now for you. Just got booted off by google and the Sun article error page came up twice. Oh dear....

MEBEL

was that post so good you had to post it twice??? tee hee

I agree with you. I am also absolutely gobsmacked docrot and Vile have fallen out. My goodness panic right enough if so....and how.

JANEGT said...

Is anyone else having problems tonight? evrything very slow indeed when trying to post. No wonder Melbel did it twice, I nearly did too just now.

Google behaving oddly also.

;o(((

Sass said...

Hiya Jane

Your daughter will be fine and if she needs anything she'll be on the blower to you double-quick!!!

I'll have to ask Rosie how to do something dead clever with links.

xxx

Sass said...

Jane

No technical problems - just brain not in gear!

Christabel said...

Hi Sass,
blimey what a day, just got back in from 10 this morning.

I have not long heard from Rosie, she may not get on tonight, but will try.
Anyway I have emailed you with the details.

Sass said...

Hiya Chris

Thanks for that - will have a look now. Dying to hear what went on.

See ya later, I hope.

x

Christabel said...

Sass, hope you liked it.
It was quite busy at EMA but we managed to get in ok !!!!!

Mandz said...

Hi All,

I think the main thing is we know the PJ have 0 evidence that Maddie is dead and the McCann’s involved etc therefore it is important that we keep an eye out for her on our travels because that we soul just might be out there.

In my opinion it is absolutely disgraceful & disgusting that they have leaked stories like Maddie is “dead” when they do not know if she is alive or dead or who took her therefore to go that far is unbelievable. I’m sure they will have been aware of the impact this would have on the public world wide which would have stopped people from looking for her. Why would they do this to her when there is a CHANCE that she is out there alive and needing help? Why take the risk? It was a little girl aged 3 years who needed their help and in my opinion they wrote her off very early on..WHY? Who could write off a little girl and give up hope when there is no proof of their “theory”. WHY?

As for Vile blog in my opinion they have declined to acknowledge that there was an “abductor/s” therefore it appears they support “child snatchers” and I’m sure people who abduct children like Maddie will LOVE vile site. Perhaps they should chance the name of their blog?

JANEGT said...

good evening MANDZ

I am glad they are at last here too. Hopefully now things can proceed as they should have months' ago now.

Mandz said...

Hi Jane,

Too Little Too Late - Gerry was soo right....

Sass said...

Chris

Hiya again - what's EMA when it's at home?

Christabel said...

Sass,
come on woman are you thick ?lol.
Take another look at the email !
Second one.

Sass said...

Hiya Jane and Mandz

Maybe they should just delete Vile's site! It's just one little button . . . !!! I still don't understand why Vile used a name that Madeleine hated being called.

As for giving up early, I don't get that either. I think they were hoping people would just forget about the whole thing and they could close their files and get back on with lunch.

Sass said...

Sorry Christabel - found it! Said earlier my brain wasn't in gear!

Glad you managed at EMA anyway.

Mandz said...

HI Sass,

Yes why use a name she did not like? They are not in the least bit interested in this little girl it is an excuse to use their hatred on a daily basis..
They should press the button or change the name?

Sass said...

Mandz

Yup, it's a hate blog for all the frustrated people out there to vent their rage and pretend they're perfect.

JANEGT said...

MANDZ

change the name?????

what...out of what... 'respect' ?!no way! ... they have none.

Christabel said...

Hi Sass, Mandz and Jane,

Just read the report on sky about humpa lumpa lot arriving :>)

So there is another witness !

She (Tanner) was very specific in her evidence - like what the man looked like, what the child looked like," Mr Williams-Thomas said.
He said evidence given by another person present on the night may be considered more "independent" than that given by Ms Tanner.

Well done Sass, go to the top of the class lol.*

JANEGT said...

yes, Sas perfect. as they called Karen Matthews as a mother ... a 'perfect' example of how a mother *should behave* unlike Kate. ha ha ha ha ha

who's arrested??? Even Kate hasn't been just arguida, that is NOT CHARGED. not arrested either. they forget that...conveniently.

I know what EMA is schhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

JANEGT said...

oh,,,,corrie and carrots on now. so multi tasking.

;o)))))

???? !

Mandz said...

Christabel, Jane,

What other witness? Is this another witness "ignored" by them?

Jane see my first post re: vile change name!

Christabel said...

Hi Mandz,

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1311972,00.html

Mandz said...

Jane,
Vile bloggers did they say this?????


Karen Matthews as a mother
a 'perfect' example of how a mother *should behave* unlike Kate.

Mandz said...

Thanks Christabel will go and have a look!

Mandz said...

Very interesting Christabel...This person should have come out and spoken perhaps...

Christabel said...

Mandz,
this person has spoken out before , thats why she is being interviewed again.

JANEGT said...

MANDZ AND CHRISTABEL

Ho many more reports have been 'ignored' that could have led to a different, speedier conclusion and Madeleine returned? That's what gets me fizzzzing.....

Yes, Mandz, a while back when news of Shannon first broke, the held Karen up as a perfect example of how a mother 'should' behave when losing a child.....!!!!!!

Some judges...eh?


Glad they will never be on a jury in this country. That's all I can say. along with 'expert' dna evidence by.....ha ha ha 2345 and ecolab. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha


NURSE??????!!!!!!

QUICK!!! URGENT!

OR IN THEIR CASES definitely DNR eh Helen????

Tinkerbell43 said...

Evening All,

This was a question I asked the other night. If you read our front page article from the Times on Friday 4th, the 5th paragraph refers to the UK police interviewing PEOPLE that claim to have seen Madeleine being abducted! I never knew there was any other witnesses, this is very interesting!

Christabel said...

Mandz,

I hope there's no stairs anywhere near the interview room.
Three men and one woman PJ are only sittng and watching, nothing new there then.
Murats interview may be over here too, his daughter should be back at school today.
Give that slimey swine to the Leicester police to interview in ENGLISH.
Mind you apparently all the PJ can understand English, they just pretend not to lol !
If this is correct why have odd ball to translate in the first place ?

helenm said...

Good evening ladies,

Jane I've just cottoned on also. Hope Rosie wasn't arrested!!!!LOL

DNR would be of no use whatsoever, for that to be applicable they would need to have a heart!!! and they have shown over and over again that this is not the case.

JANEGT said...

Yes, guys,

I believe there is a lot to come out we did not know, and there are witnesses coming out of the woodwork now, that claimed *at the time* they had seen Murat. Lots and Lots of them including one statement stating he was 'in Madeleine's bedroom on evening of 3 May'.

It clearly puts Jennifer Murat's statement into strong question indeed. This should have been looked into 10 months' ago at least. Shocking. Disgraceful. Travesty!!!!!! No less and probably a lot more......

Christabel said...

Hi Tinks and Helen,

I have never known a bunch dipsticks like them, have you?

Helen,
don't worry Rosie is home safe and sound, she should be on soon !

JANEGT said...

HELEN

hopeless cases then

no heart no brain

oh dear

no hope

Sass said...

Hiya

Just back from a multitasking marathon which meant me ignoring the computer!

archer said...

Hi Everyone

I hope you are all well and warm.

Do you think there is a possibility
that 'Vile' and some of her friends are RABBITS ?

I ask that because I have been looking through my daughters test papers on Mammalian Physiology & Behaviour. I found this: Rabbits are herbivores and produce two sorts of faeces. One type is called caecotropes, and they are reingested... !!!


What do you think ?

Sorry about that. More ontopic though, Why are the 'rabbits' getting so upset that Kate and Gerry are going out of the country? What possible difference does that make to anything. If they are required for anything the whole world and his wife will know where they are.

Christabel said...

Sass,

Silly girl, who did a whoopsy then lol !

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi Archer,

Exactly, they have offered to be interviewed, it was DECLINED.

But should the PJ have a change of mind, they'll be back before they leave!

Christabel said...

Hey Archer,

Jane went to that guest house today !
Guess what it was closed for interviews lol.

archer said...

Hi Tinks

Is this the point in the 'investigation' that Metodo3 get to produce their findings for official follow-up ?

That's another travesty of justice.

archer said...

Christabel

What - no tea with Auntie Betty ?

That's a real shame. :¬((

Christabel said...

Archer,
aunt Betty nor Mrs Doyle lol.

JANEGT said...

EVENING ARCHER

too little, too late as mandz says, and how much has been simply ignored that could have been vital?

makes me sick.


other blogs talk about slack parenting...how bloody dare they. They held up Karen Matthews as the way a mohter 'should' behave on losing a daughter unlike Kate. ha bloody ha. what about loose policing by the Plod Jokes. aka PJ. Ridiculous. Other words came speedily to mind but cannot type them. Not any of the 24 of them. You know them.

;o(((((((((((((((((

JANEGT said...
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helenm said...

I don't think that Murat will be questioned in England. I am sure that he is a Portuguese resident. He most probably has already been re-interviewed in Portugal

archer said...

Hi Jane

I think the rabbits would be better off spending their time focussing on their own 'parenting skills'. If their children grow up with the same traits as they have, well, I shudder to think.

Sass said...

Hiya Archer

How are you doing?

Tinkerbell43 said...

Archer,

This has always concerned me deeply, the fact M3 were allegedly passing on their findings to the PJ.

I fear it will have been filed with all other ignored leads, in the bin!.

archer said...

Hi Helen - me little leprechaun!!

Wasn't his personal stuff returned whilst he was in England? They obviously didn't feel the need to see him personally then. Whether that has any significance - who know's? Not the pj, that's for sure.

archer said...

Hi Sass
I'm good, thanks. You been working hard? I have an easy two weeks, flexi-time cos of the school holidays.

You know, I would like to think that I can predict what is going on here, but you never can tell.

Someone has to be held to account for all that has NOT gone on with this case.

Who is being protected through all of this???

Sass said...

Back in ten minutes!

Sass said...

Hiya Archer

Tea just a-brewing! What holidays do kids have right now? Jane also said that her daughter's holidays started on Saturday.

archer said...

Sass

What would have been called Easter Hols.

Beacause of the way it fell this year the children only had the Good Friday and the Easter Monday. Traditionally you get two weeks. It will be the start of the new term then.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Something often posted on the other blog is bugging me. They state the children were left every night on the holiday. The word every, always heavily emphasised.

I understood the McCs dined with the children for at least the first two nights. There is an independant witness that even gave a description of what Madeleine was like and how she would run to get the highchairs out.

Can anyone else confirm this for me please ?.

Christabel said...

Sass and Archer,

the School holidays here have finished.
The children started back today after 2 weeks off.

archer said...

Christabel

Oh...def off these two weeks out my way..and that's a fact! 100% confirmable. lol

I can support this if necessary.

Sass said...

Archer

Thanks. The kids here had 10 days off but were back at school the Wednesday after Easter day. If the holidays aren't called Easter holidays, what are they called now? Has it all gone PC? What's it called now? Chicken break? Daffodil holidays?

archer said...

Tinks

I have probably read the same as you. I recall reports of Madeleine with the high chairs too, but not sure what mealtimes.

archer said...

Sass

Nah..still called Easter Holiday because its the traditional holiday before the summer term.

But hey - daffodil holiday sounds good to me. lol

Christabel said...

Archer,
must be different area's !
My grandsons broke up 2oth March and returned today.

Christabel said...

Tinks,

it was a waitress (witness, I think ?) who said how helpful Madeleine was with the high chairs

archer said...

Sass/Christabel

Hey, don't do me out of a my flexi-time, it only started today. My daughter goes back on the 22nd.

helenm said...

Sassy,
You have mail

Sass said...

Archer

Go for it Archer! By the 22nd you'll be going to work for a rest!

Sass said...

Ta our 'ell!

Tinkerbell43 said...

Thanks Archer & Christabel,

I knew they wasn't left EVERY night. It annoys, if people want to use this against them, then they should at least get the bloody facts right.

If I remember rightly, it was the Millenium Restaurant.

JANEGT said...

HI GUYS

SORRY just had a LONG PHONE CALL FROM USA.

NOW. EASTER HOLS VARY

IT IS AT DISCRETION OF THE COUNTY IN WHICH YOU LIVE. I HAVE HOLS OFFICIALLY FROM TODAY FOR 2 WEEKS. WE ALSO HAD GOOD FRIDAY AND EASTER MONDAY OFF TOO. OTHER PARTS OF OUR COUNTRY WENT BACK TODAY, HAVING HAD THEIR TWO WEEKS FROM GOOD FRIDAY ON.

IT IS TOTALLY UP TO THE COUNTY OFFICE AS TO WHEN /HOW SCHOOLS, COLLEGES, IF UNDER GOVT FUNDING WORK.

A lot of my daughter's friends are back today, and she is just starting her Easter Break - so it does not make a lot of sense to me.....I preferred it the 'old way'......whole of country off at same time. Some counties work Good Friday and Easter Monday as 'religion' seems a non pc word now. stuff that cr*p!!!!!


'Daffodil' and 'Holly' Breaks? No way!!!!!!!!!! Easter and Christmas every time. The pc brigade will never ever change me on that one.

Especially with the daffodil reference .... oh no...!!!

Christabel said...

Jane,

did your kiddies have any time off for Easter ?

JANEGT said...

TINKERBELL

THE FIRST night I have read they all - including children - dined at Millennium.

after that, no. It was the Tapas Bar and checking regularly with permission of MW Ocean Club as apparently they had to open it especially for them to meet their requests to allow them to make regular checks on their children and be able to se the apartments.

Just what I have read I do not expect to be *shot* for this.

ALLEGEDLY

JANEGT said...

christabel

yes, as I said, they had Good Friday and Easter Monda. That was it. They call it 'spring break' due to not insulting peoole of other religions. Not Easter Break. Oh dear. So my daughter had Frid and Mon off. Now today she starts her SPRING or CHICKEN or EGG break tee heee for 2 weeks. The national days off work TOTAL out equally = whenever you take your hols. Just depends on local County Education Office.

ha haha clear as mud. I can't stand this pc stuff. All nonsense. we are not allowed to call a Haggis a Haggis, the EU say it is a 'SAUSAGE' WHICH IT IS NOT. NO BL**DY WAY. it drives me nuts this pc brigade nonsense. Soon it will be pick your own loo as we cannot call them ladies or gents, just '#PERSONS'. WELL BUGGER THAT LOT.

OH DEAR.

I AM ON A SOAP BOX TONIGHT. FIZZZZZZZZING.

J E E V E S????????????????????????

Christabel said...

Some daft bat said the PJ were flying to London.

They arrived at East Midlands Airport at 12.20 today.
Oh and they went through a private exit to avoid the public arrivals lounge.
Something else the McCanns were slated for !
The questioning of witnesses will probably take place at the force's headquarters in Enderby.
This is nowhere near London but in Leicestershire !
Then again they like the long routes don't they ?

helenm said...

I apologise to anyone who has not yet eaten. TW posted this:

have struggled to try and read all your posts and so took to scanning in the end and just picked up on this one of Irina's ..so simple, so sad and so accurate, neglect, murder, whatever, if only little Maddie had been with any of the caring parents she lists, yes little Maddie would still be alive and well. Says it all really, I think and it really does make me very sad that she was not..


"Why was not I born to Viv or 2345 or Hope or Doc or Dolores, Alsabella or anyone who cares but not these people?"

Monday, 7 April 2008 21:34:00 o'clock BST


TW cannot be SERIOUS!!!!

JANEGT said...

sass

DOES EVERYONE KNOW THE POLL RESULTS
FROM our blog now? I know you posted it, but not many were on at the time.

what a hoooootttt..........

;o)))))))))))))))))))))))))

and how apt today of all days.....

archer said...

Jane

Out our way, no Noddy and Big Ears, cos it infers homophobia, and it's insulting to Big Ears. He can be called Big Grey....

No 'Ba ba black sheep' either.

Sass said...

Helen

Can you imagine any poor kid choosing one of those polishers to have as a parent? Good grief - the arrogance of some people. I'd rather be brought up by wolves than have one of them as a parent.

archer said...

Helen

Vile bile. Luckily I have eaten!

Rabbits, or is that insulting to the rabbits?

JANEGT said...

HELEN

I just cannot believe that crass statement.

If you were unlucky enough to be an offspring of that list of demented clots you would be born in a cell. ;o(((

CHRISTABEL

You know this pc brigade drive me absolutely nuts. I cannot stomach the nonsense we have to take due to the 'rights' of people who are simply intlerant of the country they came to for 'better chances in life' then try to ruin ours.

My daughter said Merry Christmas and was told off. It insulted others in the school not of that 'persuasion'. I was s so so so livid I wrote to the headmaster. This is beyond belief. It is not claiming 'their' rights, it is RUINING OURS, MINE. not on.

ANOTHER BLOG
ANOTHER TIME
I AM STEAMING OUT MY EARS ON THIS

going to kitchen to cool off. eek.

;o(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((

Sass said...

Will repost, Jane.

And the results from the mostly British jury are:
___________________________________

Rosie's poll is over:

"If the PJ do not make it to the UK on April 7th, what do you think will be their excuse this time?"

First place was

- Alsabella grabbing their ankles so they couldn't board the plane! (64%)

Second was

- Got waylaid at Faro airport by Irina asking about the Escape Goats

Third was

Accosted by Mrs Consecutive Numbers taking Eddie and Keela for a walk

Fourth was

Couldn't escape from Clawd Ear!

Tinkerbell43 said...

Helen,

Sadly she is!!!. I just hope should Madeleine ever be found, she never has the misfortune to ever see the kind of comments that have been posted on that blog in her name.

They are a disgrace!

JANEGT said...

ha ha ha ARCHER

well, god knows what they make of old Morecambe and Wise re runs with them both in a double bed together...ha ha ha ha

N U T S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sass said...

Jane

And you'd have a name like Wibble wibble wibble thanks to prescription meds

JANEGT said...

you are all wrong#


2345 DOES NOT HAVE CHILDREN

she has 'specimens'

CHRISTABEL

ha ha ha HHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Your post re 'daft bat' saying they flew in to London not other airport,

You will be taken to task by the pc brigade for cruelty and libel to bats. ha ha ha ha ha bring it

stay as sweet as you are, absolutely bang on.

am I allowed to say that????

archer said...

Sass

I thought that was an excellent poll. Amusing, provocative and intelligent observations.

Well done Rosie.

archer said...

Jane

What did you daughters headteacher have to say when you complained?

Christabel said...

Jane,

why thank you good lady lol.
Say what you want Jane !
Techno of anyone else like I don't lol .

Sass said...

Archer

Maybe this week will give us some ideas for a new poll!

helenm said...

Christabel,

Can you explain this?

Techno of anyone else like I don't lol . Can't find it in my Portuguese dictionary

archer said...

Sass


We are not short of material - that's for sure..:¬))

JANEGT said...

ARCHER

no answer was the loud reply.

I did email again, no response. Just a thank you for your email which is receiving our attention. ......NOT.

I GAVE UP. NEW HEAD NOW. I WAS REALLY SERIOUSLY ANGRY ABOUT IT. My god if she said f**k off I would have understood but Merry Christmas???? For God's sake even her Jewish friends send Christmas Cards, as do Indians and Pakistanis too, it is a 'friendly gesture' not a bl**dy hand grenade. It really really incensed me. As you can tell.

No, no reply just a polite acknowledgement. Not good enough, but as New Head there, no point is there? Until 7 months' time. Then I will let you know. ;o(((

JANEGT said...

BLAME IT ON TERMINAL 5

if anything goes wrong now

not the tapas 7

helenm said...

Goodnight all, off to bed. Have the dentist mane. Only a check up so should still be able to speak with you all!!!!LOL

Sass said...

Archer - that's true enough!

We could ask what excuses there will be for the PJ not getting the answers they want - the only answer they want being 'it was me'.

Is it a) they had time to prepare their answers
b) government intervention
c) they all refused to answer their questions
or d) the PJs were still at lunch and had no time to question?

Sass said...

Our 'Ell

Just pop your teeth in the post, then you can hang around here a bit longer!

Sass said...

I'm off too. Am falling asleep here - not the company I assure you. On the other blog I'd be comatose!!!

Night
x

JANEGT said...

HELEN

GOOD NIGHT AND FOR G*D'S SAKE PUT SOMETHING DECENT ON OR YOU WILL GET A FILLING IN A PLACE NOT EXPECTED BY YOU.

I TOLD YOU!!!!!


sleep well, see you 'mane' as you say and noone else in humanity does. ha ha

xx ;o))))))))))))))))))))))

archer said...

Jane

It's a real shame when the PC brigade make something out of nothing.

I work in a multi-cultural environment. Each and everyone of us does our own thing, respecting the others. There is no problem at all if we are left to our own devices. I have had Christmas cards/gifts from all of them. Well, one exception a Jehovah Witness. But, she did not put the dampers on anything.

Christabel said...

Helen,

sorry you can't find it in your dictionary.
It is slang for Take no notice lol

helenm said...

To the person that I'll never ever speak to ever ever again,

Cheeky bugger!!!

Christabel said...

Nite and bless Sass xx

JANEGT said...

sass

good night

sleep well

thanks for poll results

they were really fun.....

I enjoy the polls.....

see you soon. take care

archer said...

Goodnight Helen

Goodnight Sass - sleep well, and speak soon.x

JANEGT said...

HELEN

I hope you don't mean

MOI????

buggeress please. Remember my tiara and Jeeves......please.

I am sure it is someone else.

;o()))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Tinkerbell43 said...

Just shows you how in touch Vile actually is, she thinks the McCanns have already gone to Brussels, lol.

I'm off now everyone, bed is calling. Take care, see you tomorrow. xx

helenm said...

Jane,

No one in humanity!!!LOL you don't know how wrong you are!!

archer said...

Tinks

Goodnight - pleasant dreams!

This flexi-time is quite tiring for me. Haven't put my blanket on yet. Hafta do it now.x

helenm said...

Jane,

It was this I was referring to

Sass said...
Our 'Ell

Just pop your teeth in the post, then you can hang around here a bit longer!

07 April 2008 22:47

Thought I was quite restrained actually.

Christabel said...

Well I'm off all,
had a busy day.

Nite and Bless xx

helenm said...

Now I really am going, Jane, please no more interruptions.

Goodnight.

archer said...

Helen

yes, very cruel. :¬((

JANEGT said...

TINKERBELL
good night, take care.


HELEN ha ha

I SAW THAT ABOUT TEETH. THE OTHER SIDE SEEM TO HAVE A FIXATION THAT WE KNIT, DO NOT HAVE OUR OWN TEETH AND ARE CENTENARIANS..... HA HA HA

who else says 'mane' then? I had never heard it at all. Just you.

;o))))))))))))))

JANEGT said...

ARCHER

THE JEHOVAH'S WITNESS WASN'T CALLED MICHAELA WAS SHE???? Or was it a 'sketchyman' collecting at doors for them?????

If so, you are required now, in Leicestershire.

helenm said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
archer said...

Christabel

Night nightx

JANEGT said...

christabel

nite nite be good!!!! ;o))))))

JANEGT said...

christabel

good nite sweet dreams

tried to post, gotgoogled off.

dianeh said...

Good morning all

I have a question.

Does anyone know if Rebelo has questioned any of the Tapas group previously? The reason why I ask this, if he has not personally heard their testimony, or that of the McCanns, than how would he have been able to get an impression of guilt or innocence from paper transcripts of the interviews.

archer said...

Jane

Two women just called at my door and asked what bread I ate. I said "White" They lectured me on the benefits of brown bread for 30minutes! Bloody Hovis Witnesses.

JANEGT said...

boom boom archer

huh

well, haven't heard it before.

;o)))

as pc as Happy Christmas.....it seems. WGBM !!! ;o((

(world gone bloody mad)

helenm said...

Diane,

Hi, He couldn't have interviewed any of them as he was not put in charge of the investigation until after the Mccann's returned to England.

archer said...

Diane

Hi - good morning/evening.

Aha you got me on that!!

JANEGT said...

hi Diane

good morning to you

seems odd as it is just after 11 pm here.

Know what you mean

Now, interesting points you rase. I assume imho only, allegedly, he would simply go on signed statements and not need or require to persnally interview the 'supects' at all. What had gone previously I would assume he would take as 'read' and go on from there.

If doing a 'cold case' review, it would be different. He is not doing a 'cold case' he is doing a 'continuation' and to me, imho, allegedly, a damage limitation public appeasement exercise only.

rather late, but, push it away, get it lost somewhere.....quick. If so, only 'quick' thing the PJ ever did. ( see my previous definition of 'PJ' in past posts )


;o)))))

JANEGT said...

HELEN BLOODY HELL --- EN

You said you were going to bed, and I quote saying 'no more bloody interruptions.''''' and here you are bouncing along indecently attired, interrupting me...huh.

pot

kettle

on please no sugar, just spot milk thanks Pass the petits fours.

;o)))

archer said...

I am off now ladies.

Goodnight x

See you tomorrow.

JANEGT said...

nite archer

enjoy the break and flexi time. it'll go in 2 seconds......!!!!

dianeh said...

Jane

My thinking is that Mr Rebelo might have a whole new take on this after he personally hears the witnesses. But then we dont actually know what he thinks about the case at all, do we?

Will be interesting to see the results of the interviews.

JANEGT said...

DIANE

I do not feel at all he is a 'fresh face' to this. He has **taken over** and is doing what is 'expected ' of him to support and uphold what the PJ have done, and do a damage limitation exercise on it.

With so many 'disgraced' PJ's with trials upcoming, now, all he can do is keep his head down and wish it to go away as fast and as discretely now as he possibly can so as not to bring the PJ into further disrepute if at all possible.....

I am totally sceptical about his 'new vision' and 'new' view of this case. He has done what he was imho allegedly TOLD to do.

no more. no less.

the only loser?


*******MADELEINE*******

dianeh said...

Jane

On Karen Matthews.

I felt very sorry for her and posted her my best wishes and support on a couple of forums. And what do I feel now. Nothing, not angry, not even sad.

I offered my support in good faith. I felt she had been wronged.

Now it looks as though all was not as it seems, and I will still wait until due process is finished before I call them guilty, I can honestly say that I dont feel anything. It isnt about me and I offered my support, it wasnt sort by anyone. Do I feel duped, NO, ashamed, NO, angry, NO.

I feel sorry for Shannon, as she is the victim in all of this.

For myself, I will act the same way again. I believe in innocent until proven guilty and I dont judge Karen because of the incosistency in her personal life. As I have said many times, as have many others on here, if we believe in their innocence and they are guilty, no harm done to me. But if I believe in their guilt and proclaim it to the world, and they are innocent, then I have irreparably harmed innocent people. Now that would affect me.

And Jane, I also remember a few people (other blogs) saying that Karen had acted as a grieving mother should. They however remember it differently, they all believe that they pointed out that Karen was invovled. AS IF.

dianeh said...

Sass

On paedophiles.

I think they need longer sentences, not as deterrents but to protect society. When they are released, they should be subject to special movement orders and I would like to see some sort of tracking device attached to them. So that the police can know where they are at all times. Also, regular counselling sessions, not group sessions either, as they should not ever be allowed to mix with other paedophiles. Monitoring of internet, phones etc as well. This can be done automatically so it doesnt require a lot of manpower.

And this should be forever. Someone who violates the trust of the most vulnerable members of the community does not deserve a second chance. They should be monitored to make sure they dont do it again.

For violent offenders, who are capable of severe harm and death, should never be released. And the benefit of the doubt must be given to the children, not to the offender.

When a violent offender is released and then kills/rapes etc again, then we have as a society failed.

Sound fairly right wing, doesnt it. But it is the victims that I support, not the offenders or the system. A monitoring system will not really disadvantage someone who is innocent (from a miscarriage of justice) but making addresses etc public does this. I dont subscribe to letting the community know where there people are, but the police/govt should know and should monitor.

Athena said...

Good evening!
This is a message to Chinadoll:
Thank you very much for remembering me. I reciprocate your kind regards and hope all is well with you and yours.
My posts these days are rare and I just continue to pray for justice to be served for the Little One.
All these months reading and posting has opened my eyes about many ugly things and I decided it would be better to stay away as much as possible.
Even if we do not share many views, you have always been a very polite and pleasant person to me.
I know that coffee in London was not very serious for you but would you change your mind, I would be very happy to meet you sometime you are in town.

Have a very good and peaceful night Chinadoll!xxx

A very good night for all the posters here!

chinadoll said...

Athena,

Are you still there?

Athena said...

Chinadoll,
Yes, I am!

chinadoll said...

Athena,

I really miss you from the DX days.
You were always someone I could talk to and whom I knew would answer any enquiries with honesty and sincerity.

What a mess this whole thing is in.

Surely it cannot drag on much longer?

Athena said...

Chinadoll,

I do miss the DX days before all went pear-shaped!
This has to come to an end because far too many people have been hurt, devastated, deceived as the side effects of this case go far beyond what any newspapers or blogs could ever let people know.

Little Madeleine has vanished and we do not know what has happened to her. She should have been and should be the only priority for anyone involved with the case. The more the time goes on, the more I believe that nobody will be able to give answers to this sad case.
I am not very optimistic tonight as you see...
It is nice to "talk" to you and one thing is shure, we both want the truth for Madeleine.
Athena xxx

chinadoll said...

Athena,

Try and get a 'throw away email address' that others use on the internet. I will get one when my computer engineer visits again next Wed. He is currently on AL.

Hopefully, we can catch up then.

Athena said...

Chinadoll,

Sounds very silly but what is a throw away address? One made to post here and just use it one time??? I am hopeless with anything beyond the very basic...

chinadoll said...

Hold on Athena,

I just remembered that someone sent me an email with your last post to me calling yourself something else and that athena had been taken.

How can you have Athena as your blog name now?

I am confused.

chinadoll said...

Athena,

Apparently a hot mail address - whatever that is. Try and look it up.

JANEGT said...

not funny

not at all

you can fool some of the people some of the time........


but not all of the people

....


here.

Athena said...

Chinadoll,

It was me but I got confused between the names available for email with gmail and the user name I could use to post: actually I found I could use Athena and did not have to stick to the email name. I posted then as Athena-Persephone.But it's me and my cats!lolol! Shall I write a bit in French or Portuguese?;)

Athena said...

Chinadoll,

My intention was certainly not to fool anyone: you left regards for me and I reciprocated them.I certainly have no means to prove that I am Athena beyond my word here. Bad faith is not one of my things. It was well meant and I would like you to believe it was.

chinadoll said...

My apologies Athena,

We live in a strange world - where questions seem mandatory.

I do know your style and would not be fooled by an imposter.

It is sad, that we have to identify/convince eachother who we are though - what a life.

I am going to crash now, but trust you will keep well and when the truth is finally known, I will look for you first and foremost - not to rub it in, but to say that it does not matter who is to blame, as long as we can bring this baby home and the truth is revealed.

Athena said...

Chinadoll,



Do not mention it!
I know this Internet thing is sometimes an ugly one and after seeing so many people being cloned by some silly trying to trigger "blog wars", I am not surprised at anything anymore.

The best should be to talk through DX one of these days by commenting an article. I have not been banned ( was not expecting to happen neither...) and my profile remains the same with the cats.

There are times where we would like so much to believe in miracles and this Little One turning up somewhere safe and sound would be the most blessing miracle!

Take care Chinadoll and look forward to reading you soon.
Sleep tight.
Athena xxx

calcite51 said...

Good evening everyone. Just went to visit the insane blog. 2345 is confused I think....she thinks Bianca is me (honestly it's not). I didn't see anything from alsabella.

Diane, you raised an interesting point - I don't think the McCanns were interviewed by these PJ's. I could be wrong.

dianeh said...

Hi Calcite

Bianca???, your aussie accent is not good enough for you to pretend to be Bianca. She is an aussie, I havent detected anything from her, so suggest otherwise. And since you are French Canadian, I doubt that you are Bianca.

Unless of course there are two of you living in the same body, as there is for Viv/Feliciy.

dianeh said...

Calcite

Then news about Karen Matthews (Shannon's mother) is unbelievable. Butyet, completely beleivable.

Funny isnt it, they have purportedly done what the McCanns have been accused of doing, and the whole thing came apart in days. How could anyone think the McCanns could do similar things and keep up a pretense for almost a year?

Demented loons.

calcite51 said...

Diane, no I've only ever posted on everything as calcite51. I don't believe in complicating my life with various id's, passwords, one id, one password and that's it.

The only place I struggle with all this is at work - because they make us change our passwords every three months (I think) and they have a password centre that you have go through before they accept your password - rules are stupid - you need numbers as well as upper and lower cases. It can't be similar to your old password because they don't allow that either - drives me crazy.

I see I made it on vile's front page - what a dishonour. but I see ST and I were of the same opinion. That's a positive.

And Diane, I am completely french -with surnames like Brisebois, Bouvier, Martel and Nobert (those were my grandparents' surnames).

And I don't have a green card - I come from a long line of french canadians. Oh, and should I mention that one of my second cousins was married to an MP (Member of Parliament) who became a Senator? That is not made up either. I am exactly what I say I am.

Now, let's get back to this case - I don't understand how the PJ's cannot be interviewing the McCanns. Perhaps they will interview them when everyone else has been interviewed.

calcite51 said...

Diane, you should go and take a look at this video - it broke my heart and it will break yours.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWow42TCwzg

I don't get it - maybe I never will - how anyone could hurt a child - it is so sad.

I am glad Shannon was found alive and I just can't believe what happened with her mom... I will leave the investigation to the police (at least I'm sure it will be fair).

By the way, I did marry a British man - so now my surname is english.

dianeh said...

Calcite

I wish I hadnt watched it. Now I have tears steaming down my face.

You dont want to know what I think they should to Kelsey's mother. I blame her. She should have left her daughter with her mother, if she wasnt going to protect her. Stupid, stupid woman. If the mother wants to stay with a man that beats children, then she should at least leave the child is a safe place.

And that judge. I hope that he/she cant sleep at night for the rest of their lives. How can a child with two broken legs be sent back to her abusive mother and step father?

I dont understand how as a society we can not protect these vulnerable little angels. I can tell you now that if my partner ever hurt one of my children, he would not be living in this house anymore. And he would never get near the children ever again. I love my children so much that I would do anything to protect them. Anything.

Poor little Kelsey. She was so beautiful, poor little soul.

dianeh said...

Calcite

I had read about Kelsey before. But I wish I hadnt seen the video, it will haunt me for days.

I feel these things too much. Same with Madeleine. I wish I could just turn off. But I cant.

calcite51 said...

Someone set up a blog for Kelsey's mom to free her. I thought about the judge and then realised that he probably would have made his decision after reading the social worker's report - but if I was the judge or the social worker, I would find it very difficult to live with such an obviously poor decision.

And if I had been Kelsey's mom - I would have left her with her grandmother.

calcite51 said...

So many little children haunt my every moment - Julie and Melissa (Marc Dutroux' victims), Madeleine, Nicole Morin who went missing in her condo when she went to visit a little friend two floors down).

Canadian news tonight - 3 children under the age of 10 were found murdered in their home - the police are looking for their dad. How totally unfair life can be for some children.

calcite51 said...

Daughter has woken up and is demanding her time on the computer so I have to go - have a great evening, Diane.

Will talk to you tomorrow.

dianeh said...

Calcite

I know you have gone but What I dont understand about the men that hurt little children. If they dont want the children, then why not give them away.

How can anyone murder children, let alone their own?

I dont know if you read about the australian man who drove into a dam with his three children in the car, oldest about 9, youngest 3. All three drowned. He was found guilty of murder. He did it to get back at this wife, who had left him.

He is obviously a psycopath. How can he kill his own children? I think he may have meant to die as well. But why are men (and some women do it to) are so selfish to think that their children cant live with out them. Yes, they can and very well too.

A child cannot live, if the ones that love them have taken their life away. Their lives are cut short, their potential is gone. Their death must leave a huge whole in the lives of all that knew them.

Calcite, I too grieve for many little children who should still be alive today. Enough children die through illness and accidents, too many.

Enough of this, I am too sad now.

Madeleine, little angel, where are you?????

dianeh said...

Hi All

One last post for the day.

Just checked the Vile blog. Im sure that she has completely lost her mind. She has posted all of this supposed DNA evidence and other 'things' much of which were clearly the subject of the McCanns libel case against the DX.

This is a libel minefield. Surely she knows by now that she just cannot go writing things like this, or taking comments out of context, or worse repeating what has been proven to be libelous in a previous libel suit.

Oh dear, Oh dear.

Oh and forgot, we are apparently treating our children wrongly because we dont recognise their rights. Stupid ******, my children are children, they are not able to make decisions for themselves beyond do they want to watch the Wiggles or Teletubbies. I am honoured to be responsible for bringing these children up correctly and if I can do it in the way that my parents have with myself and my brothers, than I will be very proud. We have no drugs, no criminals, no alcoholics, all working, all own their own houses, all with lovely families. All involved in the community in many ways such as sport, school committees, meals on wheels, club committee. My mum was a tennis coach for 30 years and she did it for free for the children of our town and had been nominated for community service, which she then declined to accept. My mum and dad did a great job, we are all still close as a family and we havent had a single run away teenager. And do you know, when we were naughty, she used to smack us. How dare she? Look how badly we all turned out.

Sass said...

Diane

I agree - she seems to have completely lost the plot - that's nothing too new though! She also reckons she has copies of mails Rosie wrote saying Madeleine was eaten by a dog and Rosie would never write anything that sick. It was one of Vile's posters who wrote that - not Rosie.

Vile seems to have raised new-age travellers as kids - kids who appear to drink beer (or at least associate with people who do this) for breakfast (according to the time on the camera) and leave beer cans all over the place. I don't think she's the one who should be giving parenting tips or who thinks she would be a better parent to Madeleine. (That's just absolutely laughable).

Sass said...

Athena

Find it strange you're writing here after you told me to "go back to" my "hole" after I asked a perfectly reasonable question on Arsabliar's. Then you come here - to a team blog where I am one of the team - and post?

dianeh said...

Sass

I have to go and pick up the kids now. Mum rang before to say they were still asleep (both still have afternoon naps, everyday), so I didnt have to hurry.

I suppose I could do a bit more work but frankly, I am a bit tired. Just been booking my daughter in to hospital for an exploratory on Friday. God, the hospital admissions system is time consuming. And then to top it off, there has been a chicken pox outbreak, and if she has been in contact, she isnt supposed to be admitted. She has been vaccinated but since the vaccine had a different name to the one the hospital wanted, I had to get confirmation from my GP, who is QLD, Iam in NSW. And it goes on and on.

I am exhausted and upset and nervous about the upcoming operation. I will probably stop sleeping soon, as I worry myself to death.

I know she will be fine and it has to be done but I just wish it didnt.

Anyway, off now, maybe catch up later on after kids are in bed but usually so tired, I cant muster the energy for a chat.

viv said...

You lot slapped on the back and encouraged sick Supertroll/Assasin/Muse etc even posting on some of her many blogs, with your sick rubbish that was just as bad, and on my site, now she has turned against you also with yet another blog site I hope you are satisfied. I know you will delete this I just wanted to let you know just how much credibility you have left in the real world!
(the real Viv, not a clone!) Oh and dont bother to post on my blog, you know what me and Claudia do..treat you with the contempt you deserve. Child neglect defenders
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http://muldoonsays.weebly.com/index.html


which are more crazy The Justice for Madeleine and her family crew fronted by Ros and Mandz or the equally disturbed bunch in the Justice for Madeleine and the twins led by Viv and Claudia??

On the one hand you have the pros McCann squad, mad as hatters and frankly quite ammoral. Nothing that finds its way in to the publics domain is beyond these mad fuckers spin. For example,on the rare occasions they are able to debate with the other side of the fence they are every bit as good as Clarence at spinning facts. When the news of Madeleine being left crying along with her brother Sean alone in the apartment and the news of the conversation Madeleine had with Kate where she chided her for not being there, Poxy and Madz decided it could not be true because the name Maddie was in the report as opposed to Madeleine!!

When the McCanns then confirmed the leak to be correct these loons, Madz and Poxy then went on the justice for Madeleine and the twins blog run by some other nuts and claimed the leaks showed the McCanns were brutally honest in their statements even though they did not look good by doing so.They see no wrong in leaving three children with a combined age of 7 years alone in an apartment...an unlocked apartment if you do not mind!!



What Mad and Poxy did not touch upon was Why did kate say cuddle cat had been placed high upon a shelf by the abductor which is what alerted her to the fact Madeleine had not simply wandered off and had been taken.Kate had explained her immediate reason for knowing she was taken was because of this.If as we now know cuddle cat was on the bed untouched, how the hell did Kate reallly know Madeleine had not wandered off and had been taken??



Then you have Vile Viv and Clawdia on the other side, their blogs allow for crazy armchair detectives to play real life Cluedo with Madeleine the victim and her parents the killers, it seems none of these bunch have jobs or indeed lives because from firstthing in the morning to last thing at night they are deep in debate, its more like a drop in cum chatroom tha a blog, useless personal information being traded such as the days itinery or as banal as what is for tea and what time its being cooked!!

I too disbelieve the McCanns regarding the plight of their daughter, I only know what I read but take 2345 she can state quality of forensic materials read nowhere else on the web, she can state about bodies being carted around in a suitcase when Gerry lost his wallet. She makes Jessica Fletcher seem real.

Vile and Clawdia do nothing to stop the mad rambling and are known to attack any anti that strays their way about such personal matters as their parenting skills and the paternity of said children!!And then as is always the case the band wagon hoppers are breaking their necks in the stampede to join in and either hurl abuse or backslap and congratulate eachother at what they imagine to be rapier wit!!Cheeky thing here though is any retalliation or complaint is immediately deleted leaving the accused no right of reply, same goes to anyone not agreeing with them.

The antis actually do not give a flying fuck for Madeleine its just reallife cluedo for a tribe who have no life or indeed grip on reality!!

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