Friday, 22 February 2008

Gossip Corner: Post Here Any Interesting Posts You May Find Elsewhere On other Sites.

118 comments:

Rosiepops said...

I found this Post on Vile Viv/Felicity's blog, it is by a terrific person who calls him/herself SUPERTROLL and who has commenced their own blog to try and bring into line Viv's blog.
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supertroll said...
The case is reaching its conclusion.
DNA results were inconclusive.
All the blood and body fluid comments were just speculation.
There is not enough evidence to charge the parents.
There is no evidence they did it.
The PJ allowed the crime scene to be compromised.
When more senior and competent officers took over the case, the damage was irreparable.
Hopefully the parents will be released from their arguido status so that they can try and rebuild their lives.
I can't imagine how painful it must be for them to never know what happened to their daughter.
I hope for them that one day they will get the answers they need.

Wednesday, February 13, 2008 12:27:00 PM PST

Rosiepops said...

Here is another little gem I discovered from notdoc (Please feel free to post the insulting posts you come across about me. I think the more they are talked about and laughed about, the more diluted and thus weaker they become ;-)
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docmac said...
Rosiepops the retired nurse. She worked in the body fluids and DNA ward. Prior to that she was a lawyer, financial planner, accountant, psychologist, media specialist, PR consultant, call centre manager, IT consultant and a tireless campaigner for the British National Party. She also won the world speed-typing championships 3 years running and retired undefeated. She is currently a tea lady but still manages to find time to dabble on the computer in between providing cuppas for her superiors.

Tuesday, January 8, 2008 8:37:00 AM PST

Mum21 said...

Hope4You said...
URGENT APPEAL

If there is anyone out there who still has access to the DX site, can you please let everyone know I have been banned for no reason and give them Alsabella's site. There may be many on there who is still not aware of Alsabella' site. There may also be a few on there that might wonder where I've got to.

Thank you very much....

22 February 2008 13:03

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Posted this just in case any of you are missing Hope4You

Tinkerbell43 said...

How self important are some!. Yep, missing her just like a hole in the head :-)

Mum21 said...

Now who are the famous five???????
Will you please put your hands up?

A message I found creeping about on Alsabella's blog from dogmad:

Hello all
Well, doesn't that take the biscuit - whoosh, and every single thing gone on Madeleine.

Is it significant, I wonder, or do you think injunctions have been issued. I agree with Alsabella that it is all being done to see if we have short memories - well some of us do not. So I am pleased to contribute to this forum where, hopefully, the nasty 4 or 5, will not join us!! Dogmad

22 February 2008 15:04

Tinkerbell43 said...

Would that be the same Dogmad that is open minded to all views!! He/She is obviously referring to us Pro's, if he was referring to the antis's he would have said the nasty 50+

Anonymous said...

where did 2345 go????

janegt

JANEGT said...

any way we ould find big L?

janegt

Tinkerbell43 said...

Before 6789, lol

JANEGT said...

ha ha ha 6789 ...

can't recall if posted this before, but gave this blog address to Seawitch
Old Hippy and
Elaine

hope they come too. That'll make a dozen..... ;o)

famous 5 - Enid Blyton???.

SassyP said...

Hiya

Love the idea of this!

Still racking my brains to see if I can work out which 5 of us could be meant here!


Jane - 2345 got kicked off. I had a quick look at Vile's blog to see if we were mentioned yet and 2345 was still rabbiting on about forensics. Yaaaaawn!

JANEGT said...

still on about that dna and bodily spinal fluids?? You are right. Yaaawwwnnnn....

Rosiepops said...

Ha ha ha Tinks I love that reply 6789 (But don't put 10 because 2345 is missing 1 and 10 and is definitely not dealing with a full deck!)
Did you see SeaWitch has joined us? Great, hope Old Hippy and Elaine does too have you told them Jane?
I thought I would put this post up Christabel sent it to me. They are missing us sooo much. lol.
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From Viles site

Anonymous said...
Think the tin hat brigade have been sucked into a vortex and lost in cyberspace, but in the intrest of fair play and at hope4yous request i did leave a trail on the DE for them to follow. isis

Friday, February 22, 2008 7:24:00 AM PST

JANEGT said...

trail to follow? a dirty trail,,,,even more like enid blyton.....

yes, I did contact them all rosiepops so hope they find us. We are expanding at rapid rate of knots now...good.
;o)

Tinkerbell43 said...

I'm not good at all this computer malarkey, is anyone still keeping an eye out for Doby, Helenm et al

JANEGT said...

gotta have an early night and fight off this damn cold and throat......see you tomorrow.

have nice rest of the evening.....hope you get more joining....

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi jane, sorry to hear you are feeling under the weather, have a goodnights rest, after all the stress you have been under later its probably much needed. Take Care xxx

Mum21 said...

Dolby was on the DE tonight. I left a message how to contact us.
China seems to be having a problem emailing us at the moment.

Rosiepops said...

Hope doby can find us and Laz (Pedro) Helen and jakirla etc

Rosiepops said...

Night Jane, het better soon, poor thing, must ave been all that stress last week xxx

Rosiepops said...

I think I have the last page of posts before the DX went belly up yesterday.

SassyP said...

Jakirla asked where we all were and I sent her the address!

Chinadoll is having trouble as she says Google won't accept the address. Not sure what Google has to do with it, but we are working on it via e-mail!

Rosiepops said...

Just found this post on Vivsvile blog by Alsabelia. In the light of what has happened with her 6 IDs and what Higgers, Laz and I discovered about her IDs and one of them BANNED which she definitely knows about, this just proves what a liar Alsabelia is again.
I hate the thought that this woman is coning and using people the way she is,she is making fools out of them and I think this is despicable behaviour.

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alsabella said...
Hey Viv

I just found out you had a blog! :-)
Clarence is a joke. He will go down in history as the media bafoon of 2007 as far as I am concerned. In the democratic world to threaten people simply because they do not agree with his view or defend neglectors is utterly shameful. I think that British parents should take his advice and sue him. For telling us in Portugal that it is normal for the British to go out and leave their children alone!

Good luck on your blog, I will be reading it daily from now on.

Oh and I was not banned. I was away on business but actually did make one or two posts during that time. I do not know why my profile apparently says I am banned. I continue to post regularly! LOOL

boa noite! até amanha

alsabella

December 8, 2007 4:49 PM

Rosiepops said...

Sassy, christabel is saying she cannot sign on, I told her to use the anonymous button.

SassyP said...

Rosie

You can also use the Name/Url button and just type your name in.

I have told her what to do!

Tinkerbell43 said...

So she never knew Vile had her own Blog. Epitomy of a liar. Even Vile would see through that surely! I cant see Docrot or Claptrap not passing on Vile's blog details before today!

Tinkerbell43 said...

Or before 8th December even!

Mum21 said...

ISIS wants to join us...is that ok with you all?

Anonymous said...

Hi folks!,
I have to apologise first of all, thought the reason I had not been e-mailed was a racial one, Sorry,really! I have stated my paranoia on the DE, then a retraction.

I really do apologise, it just got the better of me. Kaye forced me to come here, afterwards, Lol.

Hope you are all well and good but I'm afraid I'm now going, out of shame more than anything.Lol

Hope to talk soon, now I know where you all are. Take care. Apologies again.

Jak.x

Mum21 said...

Great to see you here Jak...and keep coming back

SassyP said...

Hiya Jakirla

I don't even know what race you are! You were on the DX HYS for too long!!!

See you soon, I hope,

Sass

Rosiepops said...

Hi Jak,

So good to see you, what are you apologising for? No need.
really glad to see you here, I love your posts. xxx

SassyP said...

Isis posts on Viv's blog.

This is one of her posts

isis said...
morning all. Just when i thought it couldnt get any worse,there goes the mc cann camp on the DE forum mentioning little james bulger in the same sentence as k&g. Truly sickening. The site is unreadable now with the length of the posts. Since SHE has learned to cut and paste.... gods teeth ,this is too much. I believe the letters are on course and that the questioning will centre around time lines and in particular mobile phone records. We had a case here last year where a man was convicted of murdering his wife. Very little if any forensics but the mobile phone records convinced the jury,along with his narcissistic demeanour. Irina will remember it. Im not going to be around for the next few days as im off on retreat so il look in on you all when i come back. God bless.

Friday, February 8, 2008 2:04:00 AM PST

Rosiepops said...

I think her email was an old one, my email went belly up and I had to turn off my PC and start again, it always happens on a Friday, after a full virus scan!

Mum

I have no problem with isis joining us, cant have debate if we have no one to put different points across. Don't know what the others think. x

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hey Jakirla, no need for apologies, you are here now at last! thats all that matters :0)

Mum21 said...

Better give Isis a miss then I think...don't you? For some reason she is being very nice to me since she visited my site.
She also belongs to Alsabella's blog

Anonymous said...

Hi Everyone,

What a mission finding you all - my fault, not very computer literate.

Just a test post, to see if it works. Have tried to sign in as Chinadoll, but not successful - hence anonymous.

SassyP said...

Anyway im off now had a look at the DE forum and left 3 posts, if your in the mood for a bit of light entertainment have a look. The pros are on a roll.

Friday, February 8, 2008 4:12:00 PM PST
posted by Isis on Vile's blog
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I just think she may have been put up to it by Vile. Isis isn't nice at all on Vile's blog, she was much better on the DX, but obviously she was OK there and then went running off to Vile and making stupid comments.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi mum, I have no problem with fair debate!

Mum21 said...

No worries...she has changed her mind. She says she thinks the forum will return shortly.
I am not so optimistic though.

SassyP said...

Hiya Chinadoll

Glad it finally worked!

Until you can get a google ID, you don't have to click on anonymous, but on Name/URL and then you can write in Chinadoll. You also don't need to write in a URL, just leave it blank!

Mum21 said...

Hi China..try signing in the way I do...click on the Name/URL and then put China or Chinadoll

SassyP said...

I have no problem with people of different opinions turning up here - not at all. I just think Isis might have been put up to it by Vile.

Mum21 said...

sassy..I already have a Google ID...trouble is if I use it my name comes up as Kaye...not Mum21

Rosiepops said...

mum she's probably a triple agent lol

Mum21 said...

Sassy..you could be right over Isis. She posts on Vile's blog and Alsabella's

SassyP said...

HelenM is on her way!

Rosiepops said...

Hi China,

really great to see you!

jak why are you going? we are big girls here, we all make mistakes and actually we don't care, we are just glad that you are here.
Jak if you bump into Laz (Pedro) or mark55 please tell them where we are, we would love to have their input too lol

SassyP said...

Mum21, I'll see if you can change that.

Everyone, if you want Isis to come over then ask her.

Mum21 said...

Great about HeleM....we really are getting back together now.

Mum21 said...

SassyP...thanks

Rosiepops said...

Wow, this is gettting better and better!

Are you here yet Helen?

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hey China, what took you so long, lol. Good to "see" you.

Chinadoll said...

Have only been here a few minutes and got lost already - silly bat.

Glad I found you all again.

Sassy, thanks for being patient with me.

Mum - Still unable to post on your website.

Rosiepops - Hi, wondered where you were, looked up your DX id and no posts!

Is it still worthwhile keeping an eye on the DX forums? Surely the DX will take steps to stop posters posting on inappropriate headlines?

Rosiepops said...

Crikey that was a bit of a vicious post from Isis wan't it/ i thought she was reasonable!

Rosiepops said...

China, I am going to post a post in a while on a throw away email address so I can direct people here.

I have made one post today about hanging.

I know brave of me to enter such a controversial debate, me being such a shrinking violet and all lol

Rosiepops said...

Ihave just got to post this again mum!
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Mum21 said...
Hope4You said...
URGENT APPEAL

If there is anyone out there who still has access to the DX site, can you please let everyone know I have been banned for no reason and give them Alsabella's site. There may be many on there who is still not aware of Alsabella' site. There may also be a few on there that might wonder where I've got to.

Thank you very much....

22 February 2008 13:03

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Posted this just in case any of you are missing Hope4You

22 February 2008 20:46
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Would you miss her China? (She's probably made herself sick with ccrying!)

Chinadoll said...

Hi Tinks & Jak,

just spotted you.

Sassy, I noticed the comments about Isis and would like to add, that if she does come here, she will, perhaps, open the door to others, that you may not be keen on. At the end of the day, they can all go to Alsabellas' site if they want to be chummy and lick a..e!

Mum21 said...

This must be the article of the day...and by Alsabella of course

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Open Letter to Mrs Healy
Dear Mrs Healy,

I have read on the Sky News website that you were pleading with people to stop criticising your daughter and son-in-law.
As much as I admire your strength throughout what I am sure is a horrendously terrible ordeal for you, I cannot do as you request.
I, and I believe a great deal of those that "critisize" Kate & Gerry, do not do so for the fun of it. We do so because of the many inconsistencies that we have become aware of. We do so because we find it strange that they would be sunbathing by the pool and playing tennis with their child missing one or two days before. We do so because Kate refused to answer all the Police's questions, and then along with Gerry, immediately returned to the UK and went to meet with extradition lawyers. We do so because we have come to believe that much of the spin is fostered by some on their team. We do so because we cannot understand why with such good detectives in the UK, anyone wanting to find their missing child would hire Metodo 3, which does not specialize in child abductions and from what I have heard on national TV, does not even seem have a good reputation in Portugal.
I can understand how as a mother you defend your child. You deserve all our respect for that. However, understand that we do not know Kate. This may lead us to be unfair with her. On the other hand, it may allow us to see beyond what those close to her and Gerry wish to see in their hearts. We do not know what happened to Madeleine. We only have suspicions. But we do not want this case to fall through without this case and their involvement being thoroughly investigated.
Surely you can understand that.
I do not doubt they suffer and miss Madeleine. But I am sure that even those that harm their children suffer a bit for them, because in them at least a part must love their child. Yet, those people are nevertheless investigated, tried, and the applicable punishment is set. Because children are not their parents' property and society does have a right to question when they believe a child's welfare is at stake.
Those parents surely had no wish for the case to be investigated and it is up to the police to investigate, to the public to maintain these cases alive until justice is done.
In this situation we may be wrong, but surely you can understand that it because we worry about Madeleine that we want to make sure things are left crystal clear and not tainted by doubts.
That is all we want. Not knowing, although suspecting, of possible involvement in her disappearance, we want her parents and their friends to be thoroughly investigated until this case and their actions are absolutely clear.
Madeleine deserves justice, and since we do not trust Kate and Gerry (they have been shown to have at the very least, a very poor sense of judgment), I believe it is our job as human beings, to insure justice for her.
Do not ask us to forget your daughter and son-in-law, Mrs Healy, and treat them with kindness. Although I have no wish to torment them, to stop questioning what happened on 3 May, and what has happened since then, is to forget justice for Madeleine. And I, for one, cannot do that, I am sorry.

Kate and Gerry are grown adults, they have many people taking care of them, on a personal and professional level. They have top-notch attorneys, psychologists, PR contacts, and millionaires to help them. Madeleine, a child, has none of this. I feel a much greater need to protect her than her parents.

I wish you much strength, Mrs Healy. And if we are wrong, do not wish us ill. Know we did not wish to make your family suffer, but instead to protect the most vulnerable member of that family and make sure that justice is done for her.

Rosiepops said...

That's why you make me laugh China, your one liners crack me up!

HelenM said...

Hi all, thought I'd been left out in the wilderness!!! Would have found you sooner but my son has only just found the joys of Facebook! Constant battle for the computer. Will be better after the 2nd March, back in Portugal then, no interference from children.

Rosiepops only just seen your message from Thursday, saying that you had something to tell me.

It's laughable really isn't it, here we are supposedly in the pay of team Mccann and it's taken some of us (those that are not computer literate, that is) nigh on 24 hrs to get here. I knew I should have listened when we discussed this at our daily meetings!!! LOL

SassyP said...

China

I agree with you re: Isis.

I can imagine our stuff landing on Vile's blog and being picked to pieces on a daily basis, not to mention the fact that we would then get a whole bunch of comments we can delete constantly!

It would end in a slanging match between the two blogs.

Chinadoll said...

Rosiepops,

That 'Hope for whatever' character was one of the first posters that latched onto me when I started to post on a regular basis and all she did was whinge whinge whinge.

I see nothing has changed in that department.

Good idea to make a random post.

I remember, one day, when I was reading back posts and someone said that when she wanted to access the latest DX article, she put your name into Google and clicked onto your most recent post - she said it was a lot quicker than trying to find an old article.

I must admit, that I have used this route a lot myself (good tip at the time) Am sure others picked up on it too.

Go for it gal.

Rosiepops said...

Hi Helen

really glad to see you, there are quite a few of us on now.

helen next time i hold our extraordinary team Mccann meetings please pay attention.

I just wanted to give you all the address of the blog.

SassyP said...

The letter to Mrs Healy
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I wish you much strength, Mrs Healy. And if we are wrong, do not wish us ill. Know we did not wish to make your family suffer, but instead to protect the most vulnerable member of that family and make sure that justice is done for her.
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How on earth can anyone say that??? How is attacking the parents on a daily basis and accusing them of the most horrendous things, can you then say you are trying to protect the vulnerable member of the family. How is that protecting anyone???

Rosiepops said...

OMG that letter to poor Mrs Healy from saint Alsabelia.

I am speechless. You can actually feel the malevolence coming through the screen!

I hope Mrs healy does not get to read that pile of dung!

Mum21 said...

SassyP....She is unbelievable I know. Talk about a hypocrite

SassyP said...

Mum21

Do you want me to remove the comment where your real name is mentioned?

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi Helen, glad to see you finally made it. By the time I realised you had replied to me on the DE, Sassy had said you were already on your way over. It will be good to see everyones true views rather than having to be so guarded.

Mum21 said...

But her ardent followers are fawning over her with regards to this letter.

SassyP said...

Mum21

OK, think I have the solution.

First of all you have to sign in, then come back onto our blog.

Where it says "choose an identity" you will see your name in blue and underlined.

Click on it.

On the left you will see "edit profile" which you click on.

You will see your user name which you can then change.

Then save the changes.

Mum21 said...

SassP...No that is ok. Everyone on here and the forum know who I am by now.
So I have no problem with it.
I have managed to have contact with Doby...so not sure yet what she is doing.

helenm said...

Methinks that Alsabella is not as confident in the outcome of the investigation as.........

'and if we are wrong'

Mum21 said...

SassyP...ok I will go have a try

Chinadoll said...

Naughty Mummy21

Just paid a quick visit to the DX and saw your post to Isis about Sassy being busy.

Sounded like a recorded message.

'Sorry we are unable to take your call right now, if you care to leave your name and phone number, we MAY get back to you' lollol

I left a message for Doby too.

Sassy - I'm getting a bit dizzy trying to find the comment box, are there any shortcuts?

Tinkerbell43 said...

What oomplete and utter crap. "The Anti's didnt mean to make your family suffer". Could have fooled me, imo they've abused Madeleines name by some of the heinous things they have accused her parents and family of. Crucifying her parents and family imo is no Justice for Madeleine and it makes me angry that they do it in Madeleines name.

SassyP said...

Chinadoll

I don't know how you are looking for the comment box! All you have to do is click on the comments link under the post you wish to comment on, then up comes the comment box!

Once you have written your comment, click on publish your comment and then just press "refresh" every now and then and you stay on the comment page and can read all the comments coming in from the others.

You can see we all tend to stick to one post, so it's not worth going in and out of the comments area all the time!

Mum21 said...

Right...I am testing to see if this works ok

Mum21 said...

WOW..it does. te he he

SassyP said...

Mum21

Great!

helenm said...

goodnight to you all. I think this is maybe the first night that I have not been tearing my hair out and feeling 'sick' with anger after reading some of the nasty comments made to the pro's, the extreme paranoia that the 'anti's' devoted to the villification of the Mccann's, and just the plain nastiness of some posters. How Hope4you cannot understand why she was 'banned' is beyond me.

Hope you all sleep well and hopefully Madeleine will be found soon. See you mane.

Mum21 said...

Good Night Helem...I think I may be off shortly too

Chinadoll said...

SassyP,

Well I must be a right divvy.

If I want to comment on a post, the only way I can see to do it, is to race up to the top of the page to find the comment box.

Am I doing something wrong?

At the moment, the 'leave your comment is opposite a post that was lodged at 18.15hrs.

Mum21 said...

Not so sure Dobywalah wants to join us. She keeps making feeble excuses. Like no matter how much you explain how to...she says she can't understand.

SassyP said...

See you HelenM

This has been a real gathering of the clan!

christabel said...

Hope this works ladies

SassyP said...

China

You're right! What you can do though is to click on "collapse comments" which is near the first comment on the list!

Mum21 said...

Good Night All...I am off to bed now. Great to have us all together again.
Speak to you all tomorow, I hope.

Tinkerbell43 said...

China, you'll soon get the hang of it. Dont forget we've had a few dummy runs, and guess who the dummy was! I was stumbling all over the place, I even ended up in the headlines at one point so in comparison you are doing well :0)

SassyP said...

I'm off, too!

See you all tomorrow, I hope.

Sass

SassyP said...

Tinks

You forgot to mention that when you were starring in the headlines, you wrote something like "I don't know how I got here!" That was our headline!!!

Tinkerbell43 said...

Right Guys, I'm off now too. Look forward to seeing you all tomorrow. Its great to have us all here together, just need to keep eye out for the others.

Nite all xxxxx

Chinadoll said...

Hello Helen & Christabel,

So glad to see you both.

Just had a thought girls,

Are there any guys here?

Not that it matters lol

Goodnight All departees

Christabel said...

Hi China and Helen if your still on.
Had problems getting in the last couple of nights, thought Sass had banned me lol !

Here's a couple of moron posts from Viles blag.

Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
hi viv.. did you catch the nudge nudge wink wink stuff going on between rosie and christabel re photos they had sent to the pj ? this went on for a while. Now call me paranoid but i had a reply to a post from rosie on one occasion and the syntax and format of the post was way off her usual mo, she is conspicuous by her abscence today as quite a few of the pros have found their way out of the vortex of cyberspace to post under article 35743. isis

as i said viv most of the pros put in an appearance but rosies.. no. Have saved her homepage to favourites as nedd suggested so if she posts we will know. ISIS

Friday, February 22, 2008 3:27:00 PM PST

lizzy said...
Hi Viv,
Re your comments about Rosiepops being absent the last few days of the DE, I think he was attending meetings re the case ,maybe with lawyers, I do remember the day after it was reported that Gerry and Kate had attended some meeting regarding the amber alert for missing children in Europe, Rosiepops was asked by one of her gang how did it go with the children? I cottoned on to that and suspected that it was Gerry posting as Rosiepops then. I don't think Gerry is as clever as he thinks he is also as he also made a comment that would be more of a man sort of remark, something like daft as a squirells fart. Now I maybe wrong ,but to me that is more of a mans type of remark. I think near the end he didn't care as he knew the forum would be closed down anyway, so wasn't as careful in his choice of phrases.Lizzy 22.57

Friday, February 22, 2008 3:00:00 PM PST

Rosiepops said...

Hey Christabel, I thought you were of on one of those internet jaunts you go on, LOL I was expecting you back with armfuls of info.

Really great to see you back xxx

Rosiepops said...

Christabel

Have you seen saint Alsabelia's letter to Mrs Healy? Its further up this thread! I think it will make you a bit cross, so be warned!

Christabel said...

Rosie,
god it was like gettin in Fort Knocks.
Have you seen the 2 posts off Viles site above.
They love us really. lol !
No doc Val joins notdoc liars.
I think she fancied Gerry and Kate bet her to him.

Christabel said...

This is a cracker

Anonymous said...
Oh docnot what you doin
goodness gracious me
Vivvy needs a bedpan
but she only wants a pee.

Sorry your out for six caught again DOCNOT !

Friday, February 22, 2008 1:45:00 PM PST

Chinadoll said...

Christabel,

You had problems getting on? I am here by the skin of my ?

Interesting comments you posted by Vile and the likes or should I say the Maggot Machine.

Goodnight to all you fellow minded, decent people.

Let the maggots unite elsewhere.

Janegt - noticed you were here too.

Take care all and goodnight.

Hope I can find my way back tomorrow lol

Rosiepops said...

OMG They really thnk I am Gerry McCann.

ridicuous silly people and it was "nutty as a squirrels fart" and I said that to notdoc!

helenm said...

Hi all, the daily mail are running this re Goncalo Amaral

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=517685&in_page_id=1770

Whatever the PJ have done right or wrong in looking for Madeleine, they made a huge mistake in allowing this man to be in charge of the investigation. Where was his credibility? He should have been suspended from his post until the matter was cleared one way or another.

helenm said...

Hi Rosiepops, it was hope4you not hope4truth I was referring to regarding being banned.IMO H4Y is the nastier poster.

Rosiepops said...

Helen, thanks for that, they are easy to confuse at one time they both used a very similar avatar. I had a check, it seems that she is still able to post anyway, unless the ban took place after the last post she made, hard to tell as there are no times in the posts you are able to view via the profile route.

I agree about Goncalo Amaral by the way and have been banging on about this for months, when I discovered how heavily he was implicated in these serious allegations. Now he has to face a trial, a judge has ruled that there is enough evidence for him to do this, despite what his defence lawyer says (well of course, he would say that!)
There is a thread running on here about this, where SeaWitch has made one of her superb posts, which is well worth a read.

One thing I want ed to ask you Helen and intended to just as the DX site went belly up, was this thing about what Alsabelia has said about the shutters and window on the apartment.

I think Alsabelia was lying here Helen, because I have seen these shutters on the TV several times and they looked strong enough to me. We had a real close up of the forensics person taking finger prints and are able to zoom in and they look OK. (remember that clip, where the technician was taken the prints without a mask, without covering her hair and WITHOUT a glove on the hand she was using!)

I am very interested in if this window was either jemmied or jammed open. This is something we will discover when the McCann's are allowed to tell their side of this terrible tragedy.

I feel there is a reasonable explanation about these shutters and wonder if there was a faulty catch on the window which would allow the window to be opened from outside without too much trouble and if the shutters just did not close properly, this is a point of entry and if this happened and Kate did see the window jammed open, then this would definitely account for why she said "they have taken her"

Of course bear in mind that if this story emerged it would not suit Amaral at the time, as all the leaks seemed designed to do the McCann's harm.

Helen, something bad is happening there, I feel this, something is very very wrong. I still firmly believe that Madeleine is still in Portugal, or was until lately.

I think if it is discovered what happened to Madeleine, it will also lead to other missing children in that region, including the ones from Gran Canaria and little Mari from Huelva.

According to a criminologist I have read, (which I cannot find - Christabel please help me here;-) It is highly unlikely that you have so many missing children going missing from a region and them not being connected, unless there is a copycat on the loose too! Either way this spells big trouble, not least because the PJ and the Portuguese people seem to be sleepwalking and my fears are for other children there. I want to scream "WAKE UP PLEASE WAKE UP" the children are in danger.
If you read about these individual cases there *IS* a link and there are other similarities and I am including Joana Cipriano in this.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Rosie do you remember the article "Beyond the Smears" by David James. Apparently there was a latch hook on the sliding glass window and the McCs thought but could not be sure that they had locked it at the start of the holiday. They later discovered it was common for cleaners to open the shutters and windows to give the room an airing so there was no way of knowing whether the window had been locked at night or not.

If they thought they had locked it at the start of the holiday but it was open on the night Madeleine disappeared, I would assume their first thoughts would have been that it must have been jemmied.

Rosiepops said...

Tinks, quite so! Also, that explanation gives rise to another possibility, that the cleaners opened it and left it off and somehow it was left open and they got in this way and could have left the window jammed open?
Jammed and jemmied are so close in sound, especially as when Gerry was telling Philomena he was dreadfully upset.

I just feel that there is an explanation for this, which we will learn about when the McCann's are free to tell their side of things.
Up until now it has all been so one sided and the leaks designed to totally mislead the public.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Rosie, I have always had a concern that someone from within MW is involved in this, maybe the window was left open on purpose!

helenm said...

Hi Rosiepops, Tinkerbell,
With regard to the shutter I think that Alsabella was trying to mislead other posters. As you say Rosiepops and as I stated on my post to her the video showing that particular shutter appeared ok. However, I aim to take a look at this when I return to Portugal, week commencing the 2nd.

I think the word 'jemmied' is a particular phrase used commonly in Scotland, but I am sure that janegt will tell us more about that.

Tinkerbell it is possible that the abductor was 'helped' by a member of the MW staff. This is how predators work. I am still of the opinion that Robert Murat and his associates still have some questions to be answered.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi Helen, I have just seen a comment left on Alsabella's blog from anonymous it says:-

Breaking News "Murat, Malinka & Walzchuz were taken in for questioning this morning. They were arrested at 7am, Sol News, I hope it is wrong"

Strange to be hoping it is wrong if true!

Chinadoll said...

Hi Tinks,

Do you think the post on Alsabellas' site, is a wind up/mischievious?
Surely the pj would not leak such a story (if true) - If it was K & G that would be a different matter.

JANEGT said...

isis of pros being tin hat brigade.

of leaving a trail 'reluctantly' for us for interests of debate but we would not follow.

that Isis?

JANEGT said...

re alsabella's post

gotta go out for new screen. Mine melted with fire and brimstone cr*p of it all. Venom indeed. Spiteful venom....directing at traumatised grandparents.

She will smile on other sides of her 2 faces when culprit REALLY found..................sick.

JANEGT

melbel said...

Hi everyone.
I am a no hoper on the computer and cannot see any comments for gossip for today, 24th feb,but I had a look at paper copy of Sunday Express,today and found tucked away on page 9,an apology to Hogan International.
On January 13th, Express had printed an article headed "Fears that new Maddie detective is "not up to the task" in which they wrongly claimed that NoelHogan's investigation agency had taken over the private investigation into Maddie's disappearance and accused it of being "not up to the task."
They wish to withdraw unequivocally the suggestion that either Mr Hogan or his agency are incompetent or had misled the Mccanns about their capabilities.
They are happy to clarify that MrHogan's company has been retained by Metodo 3, the Spanish agency who work for the Mccanns, to carry out work in the UK.
This is partof a longstanding arangement between the two agencies to instruct each other for work in their respective countries.
The impression DE gave was that there was animosity between them and that MrHogan breached professional confidences was also wrong.
De apologises to Mr Hogan for the embarrassment and distress caused by their article and have agreed to pay him and his agency compensation and legal costs.


Wondered if this was partly behind the destruction of past articles etc.Excuse poor typing as I have old computer and cannot paste.
Pardon me if this is old hat.I seem to be doing a "roth "at the minute, but will try to find you all later.
Off for a family meal.
Regards to all of you X

helenm said...

Hi all found this

If you want to see who nasty the so-called "Pros" are, check out their secret blog:

http://justice4mccannfam.blogspot.com/

There, they admit the nasty anonymous attacks on Alsabella and Viv's blogs and pat each other on the back. See them for what we have always known them to be. In their own words.

25 February 2008 00:33

helenm said...

Hi, found this on Alsabella's blog written by anon

Dorset Echo

Police play down Madeleine sighting

DORSET Police are playing down an alleged sighting of missing Madeleine McCann in the county.

Alan Cameron, a retired civil servant, claims the toddler turned up at his house in Stratton, three miles north-west of Dorchester.

Sunday newspapers reported the child matching Madeleine's description arrived in the care of a Portuguese couple, who had come to buy some garden furniture advertised locally.

A Dorset Police spokesperson said: "We are grateful for the call but there is nothing at this time to suggest this is the missing girl.

"Enquiries are continuing to finalise this."

Am I posting this in the correct section assyp?

helenm said...

Sorry, just saw I had mispelt your name as I pressed the publish button.

melbel said...

Hi again.
Peeped on Alsebella's site and see that Dogmad "has finally managed to find the troll's site ".
he /she was "gobsmacked" at the article on Robert Murat which left a distinctively nasty taste in his mouth.
Such double standards and so selective, these people.

Anonymous said...

CALCITE51 here - good morning everyone - I was on Supertroll's site last nite - it is an excellent site.

I can't seem to sign in here (or in Alsabella's site) this morning. So have to post as Anonymous.

helenm said...

Melbel, calcite you seem to be lost in the wilderness. Try using this link instead of returning to this article. It will not let you access to other site if you have only saved this one to your favourites.

http://justice4mccannfam.blogspot.com/

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