Wednesday, 23 September 2009

Why Don't You Ever Listen Tony?

Tony & Debbie Discuss Carter-Ruck


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14 comments:

Anonymous said...

http://truthformadeleine.com/tfmforum/


http://www.truthformadeleine.com/images/carterruck.jpg


HERE IS EVIDENCE THAT THIS IS A LETTER THAT HAS BEEN FAKED BY SOMEONE FROM THE MADELEINE FOUNDATION for reasons they
would prefer to keep to themselves. Possibly trying to deflect the culpability
of the Foundation Members and to understate the seriousness of their actions.

1. THE HEADING WOULD ALWAYS HAVE INITIAL CAPS. Defamation within the body of a legal letter would also have an initial capital.

“Kate and Gerry McCann – Defamation and Copyright Complaint”

PREVIOUS LETTERS HAVE THE TELEPHONE # FAX# described as

Tel… Fax…

Although this could have been changed. But for what purpose? On printed headed paper, saving a couple of characters here and there would save no time NOR costs in the printing process.



PCR1-399509.1

Rosiepops said...

I agree entirely with you Anon.I also find it hard to believe that a firm of solicitors as reputable as Carter-Ruck, would send out such a shabby letter, with NO date and NO signature and variables of print and script, it also looks like someone has manually underlined certain parts, so has not mastered the underscore facility on the computer!

Just ridiculous, so now whoever did this can add forgery to their ever growing list of misdemeanors, goodness knows what they thunk they are doing!

Anonymous said...

OK - LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY HAS LIFTED A GENUINE PRESS-RELEASE LETTER FROM THE INTERNET (BELOW) WHICH HAS EXACTLY THE SAME FORMAT AS THE FAKE DEFAMATION LETTER WHICH WAS PUPORTEDLY SENT TO THE MADELEINE FOUNDATION

http://www.carter-ruck.co.uk/Documents/BARI_Press_Release_100709.pdf

I doubt CR would use Press Release letterhead in initial contact with the Madeleine Foundation members.
Press Releases are self-descriptive, for the eventual consumption of the media.

Anonymous said...

Tony Bennett is a complete and utter fool to himself. How can he live with himself knowing what he has done to The McCanns and their children. He is not helping them at all he is a cruel guy. He does not post facts he makes things up in his sad head and mind.

Anonymous said...

CURIOUSER AND CURIOUSER????

NOW MADELEINEFOUNDATION.ORG

POINTS TO

MISSINGMADELEINE.FORUMOTION.NET.

HUH?

I THOUGHT THE FORUMOTION WAS A FREE FORUM AND THE ADMIN THERE HAD NO RIGHTS TO REDIRECT OTHER WEBSITES TO THAT ADDRESS??

Anonymous said...

http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net/the-case-files-statements-f26/what-has-happened-to-the-madeleine-foundation-website-t5111.htm

Cycle said:
And more importantly...why does the website lead me to this site, where NO DISCUSSION appears to have surfaced here regarding the disappearance of Tony and Debbie's site?

Sorry if I've stepped out of line, but it would be good to know. Confused!!!!! Do Tony and Debbie know that their website has been re-directed here? Have they agreed to it? If so, why?


Fred said:
Don't panic, Steve did it, it's all legit. There is a thread about it somewhere. MF will be back we have been reassured by Debbie.


NO, IT IS NOT LEGIT TO RE-DIRECT AN ILLEGAL SITE THAT HAD BEEN SHUT DOWN BY CARTER-RUCK THAT HAD ILLEGAL CONTENT TO A FREEFORUM SUCH AS FORUMOTION.

zanyduke said...

Do these idiots that have forged that letter honestly think they are fooling anyone and do they realise the seriousness of what they are doing. Carter-ruck will make mincemeat of them.

dianeh said...

They just keep digging a bigger and bigger hole for themselves.

And the worst part is they think they are being clever, or some such think, when in reality we are all laughing at the absolute stupidity of them. They are throwing petrol on the fire.

And come on you more reasonable people over their on MM forum, how can you honestly not question the tactics and honesty of the likes of Bennett, Butler, STevo and Amber????. Look at what they are doing, and then look at what you are being told.

Carter Ruck are not playing games, this is serious, and could cost certain people everything they own. Yet, they act as thought it doesnt matter. They are not anonymous, they are not immune to the law, they are in big, big trouble.

Rosiepops said...

I absolutely agree, this is why we have the ostriches on the front page. If those people cannot see it, then it isn't happening.

I go from being highly amused at their behaviour and their lack of ability to understand the problem, to being totally aghast and seriously worried for their children.

It is just sheer ignorance and they are just wholly ignorant, arrogant and in some cases just plain vile. I have never been able to understand how another human being could behave in this way, these people are totally engulfed in their need to see two people thrown into prison for something they clearly did not do. They are being consumed by their own hatred and jealousy and this is blinding them to what is actually happening.

Let me tell them again (they should know by now I have a habit of hitting the nail on the head), Carter-Ruck are NOT playing games.

Carter-Ruck are deadly serious in what they are doing and not only this, they are very good at what they are doing, they did not become the best libel lawyers in the UK, by sending out the sort of letters, like the forged photoshopped letter. Stevo thinks he is immune because he is in the US, he has absolutely no idea about what is just abut to hit him! Stevo is in breach of the laws and amendments that permit him to stay and work in the US and we all know that the US can be really hard with people like this, they will boot him out and he will *never* be allowed to return. (Not even to Disney land) let's face it he belongs there, the way he is behaving, he is behaving like a Muppet! A nasty vile man, that has no business being anywhere near children and that is another thing that the US will be looking at.

How can you have a man like Stevo who has hosted a discussion on an abducted child's neck, entitle "Where is Madeleine's neck?" during that discussion, the lurid comments were stomach churning and this is not all, the poorly photoshopped "Ice cream" picture of Madeleine, made another appearance. To say nothing of that disgusting pornographic picture that one of them made up, and which Brenda Ryan thought was hilarious!

They seem to make a habit of poorly photoshopping pictures and official letters!

They think all that is funny, but object strongly to being shown as ostriches with their heads in the sand?! Now who was it that said we did not understand satire?

Some people are now in clear and unequivocal danger of losing everything and I can only assume that these nutters have not actually told their partners/husbands/wives etc, how bad is that going to be when their writs fall onto their doormats and the stark reality of what they have done and what they have continued to do, even though they have been warned, actually hits them? Faced with the reality of a court date and the loss of their homes etc, they will be forced to tell their other halves that they have been stalking, persecuting and libelling two innocent people on the internet, how do they think they will look when this gets out?

Perhaps they should ask Debbie Butler to tell them the actual truth of what has been happening to her ever since her (well deserved) front page splash?

Rosiepops said...

How people have shunned her, pointed the finger at her, whispered about her behind her back while smiling in her face? She has no idea about the whispering campaign going on about her.
She had a chance to get out of this and for the sake of her little lad, you would have thought she would have seen sense and got the hell away from Bennett, instead she has become complicit in forged letters which are directly misrepresenting Carter-Ruck, they are directly trying to harm the image of Carter-Ruck and if she thinks that Carter-Ruck are simply going to allow forged letters to be made public and people pretending to be from them, then this is another time she is sadly mistaken.

So she has allowed these stupid ignorant arrogant half wits to implicate her further, not only in a civil offence of defamation and libel, but now into a criminal act!
One day there will be a knock on her and Bennett's doors and they are going to be arrested and then most likely charged with a whole array of criminal charges, yet they and the dolt Stevo (who thinks he is immune -lol), and the incredibly foul mouthed and cerebrally challenged Ambersewer and the others, simply are unable to see it!

Well more fool them, none of them can say they were not warned - REPEATEDLY!

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hi Rosie, I said something similar on a prevous thread, how are innocent family members going to feel when they are projected into the limelight because of what their mum, dad, brother or sister have been up to.

Because this is not just about them, has Butler thought that people will not only be pointing at her, they will also be pointing at her son. He will be known as the boy who has a stalker for a mum and seeing as a majority of people will dispise what his mother has done he is unlikely to get an easy ride. Sad but true.

She should have been thinking of this and protecting him. She has the audacity to question the McCanns parenting skills but where are hers, some mother eh!

She has made her own bed and she deserves all thats coming at her but has she stopped to think about her son in all this, to hell has she. Selfish B******.

Anonymous said...

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Missingmadeleine.Forumotion.net have returned www.madeleinefoundation.org back to its rightful place. Steve had no right to hide his illegal URL under a free-forum run by an above board company. Why didn’t he hide it under one of his many other sites, such as the MikeGunnill spoof site. Too ashamed? I hope forumotion have given him a piece of legal advice to take a running jump.

Posters at MM seem to be under the impression that all Steve has to do is delete the photo of Madeleine from MF. In reality, the entire Website is a libellous, spiteful, inaccurate bunch of spurious activities, which now includes a faked up Carter Ruck letter.

The Website owners will have received the original Carter Ruck letter to take down the ENTIRE site or be taken to Court. The ENTIRE site is a travesty of harassment, deceit, false accusations and second-hand hearsay comments.

P.S. Re-Cycle's question about MF has now been deleted/or moved. Still no answers as to why Steve hid MF under forumotion. Still no answer as to why there is no discussion regarding the faked Carter Ruck letter.

Anonymous said...

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http://www.anthonybennett-fraudster.blogspot.com/

THE FOUNDATION URL HAS NOT CHANGED BUT HAS ANOTHER NEW CLONED FOUNDATION URL LINKED DIRECTLY TO THE ORIGINAL. TONY BENNETT AND DEBORAH BUTLER HAVE AGREED TO THE STIPULATIONS SET OUT BY CARTER RUCK – THAT THEY WILL TAKE DOWN THE NAMED WEBSITE, NOT MERELY TO SUSPEND IT. TB’S AND DB’S PROMISES ARE WORTHLESS. NOTHING HAS HAPPENED TO THE WEBSITE, OTHER THAN THE WEBMASTER THROWING HIS WEIGHT AROUND. STEPHEN d. SMITH THINKS HE IS IMMUNE TO THE LAWS IN BRITAIN. HE FORGETS THAT HE IS A GUEST CITIZEN IN THE U.S.A. AND HE IS ABUSING HIS STATUS. WHEN PUSH COMES TO SHOVE, THE USA DOES NOT PROTECT TERRORI SM IN ANY FORM.


TONY BENNETT’S AND DEBORAH BUTLER’S NAMES AND ADDRESSES STILL APPEAR IN THE CONTACT TAB. THEY ARE THE ONES ACCEPTING MONIES IN EXCHANGE FOR LIBELLOUS LEAFLETS. THEY ARE THE ONES ACCEPTING MONIES IN EXCHANGE FOR THE GERMAN VERSION OF THE LIBELLOUS GONCALO AMARAL “PACK OF LIES” BOOK ABOUT THE MCCANNS. THEY ARE THE ONES RECEIVING PAYPAL MONIES IN THE DONATIONS TAB.

Anonymous said...

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TONY BENNETT, STOP LIBELLING THE MCCANNS, OR ELSE…. WE DETONATE THE ONION AND THE GARLIC. THEN WE BRING IN THE BIG BOYS, THE MELON AND THE PUMPKIN

DESPITE YOUR EMPTY PROMISES TO CEASE AND DESIST, YOU STILL PUT IN WRITING TODAY THE SAME LIBELLOUS SENTENCES. YOU DON’T APPEAR TO HAVE ANYTHING NEW TO LIBEL ABOUT

Posted by Tony Bennett (on MM)

“The legal advice received was that the McCanns' delay in taking action was very strange, and would certainly affect their ability to have their costs covered in full if they 'won'. However, there is a one-year time limit to bring libel proceedings and we were advised that the year runs from the last date on which the alleged libel was repeated.

So for example if I posted today that I thought Madeleine was not abducted and that the parents knew she was dead and had covered it up, under libel limitation law they would have until 4 October 2010 to bring libel proceedings against me. They might suffer in not recovering their full costs. But if they could demonstrate that I had libelled them on 4 October 2009, they would have a full year in which to take action.

Just to make it absolutely plain for the written record, I am no longer accusing the McCanns of knowing that their daughter Madeleine is dead and that their parents have knowingly covered up this fact.

I might also add two things that were strongly emphasised in our 4-hour meeting with lawyers:

1. Libel law is complex.

2. Libel law is uncertain.”


BY STATING THIS AS AN EXAMPLE DOES NOT EXEMPT YOU FROM THE CONSEQUENCES OF POSTING YET MORE OF THE SAME LIBEL WHICH YOU HAVE PROMISED TO BRING TO A COMPLETE HALT (that was legal advice brought to you for free, but you can pay me if you like)

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