Saturday 13 December 2008

So Goncalo Amaral Hass 'Supposed' To Have Joined the 3 A's?

"ICantThinkOfAName said...

Hi AllInteresting development that Goncalo Amaral has opened an account with 3A.Perhaps we will now get some extra information "straight from the horse's Mouth".Friday, 12 December 2008 13:55:00 o'clock GMT"

(Taken From The Snot Green Psycho Blog From Hell)


If this is true and Goncalo Amaral has joined the 3 A's, ny first reaction was to laugh!

However, after I stopped laughing at this latest ridiculous piece of nonsense, I began thinking. If he has, I would say this says even more about this pathetic moronic swine, this Amaral, the person who was sacked for doing his job so appallingly.

I have been reading some of the questions that El Mundo reporter has asked Amaral and I have to say, that the answers if correct, are very revealing and they reveal far more about Amaral than if he had sat down and wrote his own biography! I am amazed at how revealing about him this interview actually is. Far from being a crack shot detective, I believe Amaral is of inferior intellect, in fact he is (to put it bluntly) as thick as two short planks! He is not just stupid, he is stunningly stupid.

I read about the 'Calpol' Amaral supposedly said this;'

"(El Mundo Journalist)Q - So, what are we talking about?

(Amaral) A - About an accident. The child could have fallen from a sofa, could have had an accident with Calpol (a sleeping solution). We never had access to the girl's medical history, so we don't know whether she was healthy or not. We can only speculate. There are many very strange details."

As a footnote the person whose blog these questions appear on went to great lengths to explain that Amaral did not say that 'Calpol' was a sleeping drug, that it was the 'reporter's mistake' as the reporter had put this in in brackets to explain to his readers what 'Calpol' is.

Two Points.

1)....The mere fact that Amaral mentions that 'Calpol' could have been the cause of Madeleine's death in some sort of accident where she took the suspension and died from an accidental overdose, is so amazingly stupid factually incorrect, that it is almost impossible to find thecorrect words to explain why this allegation, is so stupid! From the transcripts of this interview with the El Mundo journalist, I think it is safe to assume Amaral means that Madeleine, could have accidentally taken it and was the cause of her death!

RUBBISH!..GARBAGE!..IGNORANCE!..NONSENSE!

Even if Madeleine did take this by accident it would not have killed her in this time frame, in fact it is doubtful that it would have killed her at all. If Madeleine had taken Calpol by accident, her parents, 'two highly trained experienced doctors' would have had her at the nearest hospital immediately. No doubt gthey would be liasing with their counterpart colleagues about what treatment to give to Madeleine to neutralise the Calpol - There is an antidote to paracetamol overdose which can be successfully administered up to 12 hours after ingestion. 'Calpol' is liquid paracetamol. This statement alone actually shows the ignorance of someone who is supposed to be an "elite detective" he (Amaral) obviously has not even bothered to find out what Calpol actually is, what it is used for and what its contraindications actually are, yet here he is using this as a weapon to hit the McCanns over the head with and trying to suggest that Madeleine may have died as a result of a drug overdose! The thick headed journalist, doesn't know either and he is guilty of sloppy, lazy jopurnalism because he did not bother to check out such a vitally important fact and part of his story!

Yet this so-called elite detectibe and this journalist with his sensational sccop, want us to take this interview seriously?

2) The thicko El Mundo hack has just assumed that Calpol is a 'sleeping solution', he has not even bothered to check up on something as important as this, in short he is a lazy pig ignorant stunningly stupid journalist, (a bit like the detective he is interviewing).If a detective supposed to be leading the hunt for a missing child cannot even be bothered to check this out, what hope did Madeleine ever have with this thick detective in charge?

Another revealation that utter shocks and leaves one almost speechless is, apparently Amaral, has NOT even bothered to interview Kate or Gerry once in person!

How do we rate this? How are we supposed to be reassured that everything that could have been done to find Madeleine, was done, professionally and dilligently, when we are presented almost daily with such dreadfully unfounded, unsubstantiated allegations?

I find it astonishingly incompetent and this feeling magnifies intensely, when you understand with extreme trepidation, that the detective taking over when Goncalo Amaral was sacked from this investigation, 'Paulo Rebelo' has 'NEVER' even interviewed or spoken with Kate and Gerry either! You have to ask, just what the hell has been going on in Portugal? It is almost as if the Portuguese detectives know very well what happened to Madeleine and where is was and where she is today and they are scared witless of this being discovered.Meanwhile to divert attention away from this astonishingly lackadaisical investigation, they decided to blame the parents, but these detectives were so thick, they could not even do this properly. I believe, they (especially Amaral) completely underestimated the tenacity and the intellect of these two parents and so these parents came to be the objects of hate, to be ridiculed and lied about.

Amaral thought he could bully Kate McCann into submission, after all Kate McCann was a silly little woman wasn't she? Silly and stupid and easily manipulated just like Leonor Cipriano and when he discovered that Kate was not going to be bullied, or coerced into confessing to something she (they) did not do, it was a real shock to Amaral and he started to panic. What he was panicking about, well who knows? He may think this will never come out, but it will, as sure as day meets night it will come out, things like this 'always do!' When it does, Portugal needs to brace itself for the fall out, because it will be vast and relentless.

Now apparently we are to be believe that Amaral has joined the the 3 A's? You could not make it up could you? Honestly, if thiswas a film, we would all be saying this is too far fetched to be real and believable!

But oh how that would suit his (Amaral's) incredible aptitude for ballsing everything up completely. To be seen publicly joining a forum full of bullshitters, liars, fantasists and axe murderers and probably with a few paedophiles thrown in for good measure, no doubt.

Well at least if Amaral has joined there he will be in good company!

And ICTOAN is almost breathless when he says; "Perhaps we will now get some extra information "straight from the horse's Mouth".

ROTFLMAO, really PMSL! ICTOAN, You couldn't afford for him to tell you his lies directly you haven't got enough money.

Didn't you know that Amaral charges for everything?
He has written a book and is cashing in on Madeleine's disappearance, he has made a film in Portugal to further cash in on this poor missing child. He has got money from this 'PAID' interview with the Spanish newspaper 'El Mundo'. He gets appearance money from giving various interviews to other newspapers, radio and television companies and apparently after he has finished his latest film about Madeleine, filmed in apartment 5a, where this dear little child was last seen, it has been touted that there is a further book to come?

He in his native Portugal is being allowed to cash in on his 'FAILINGS' with unsubstantiated comments and allegations, lies and innuendo and there is not a thing the McCanns can do about this, because of Portugal's laws on libel and how little regard they have towards the truth.


I would not be surprised to learn that some factory in Portugal is now producing a whole range of goods with the fat one's (Amatral's) name and face on them, mugs, T-shirts, pens, pencils etc, if they are may I suggest they produce toilet tissue with his face on? That would be a very fitting indictment to him and his investigative prowess!

I get the impression that Goncalo Amaral is a fat frustrated man. A very typical old fashioned male chauvinist. He is controlling, and he gives the impression that he is a misogynist. If he thinks he is right (which is probably all of the time) then he simply shuts down to all fact, reason and logic and blindly pursues wild geese up one way streets, and blind allies. His leaks and innuendos have often been totally bizarre and his book is no different. I believe this man is a menace to all innocent people and it was a good day for Portugal when he was sacked from the Madeleine McCann investigation and then no doubt was pushed into early retirement.

Portugal has no loss in this man, they can only breathe a little easier, should some other poor unfortunate child fall prey to some disgusting abductor and their family be too terrified to call upon their police to help them in such a terrifying time. I believe that Goncalo Amaral should be brought in for official questioning into his dreadful incompetence in the Madeleine case and his conduct, both of which are brought sharply into focus. I believe he is responsible for the good Portuguese detectives (and there are good Portuguese detectives) being prevented from following up leads as they came into this investigation. It is not until all of these people who were involved at that time of Madeleine's disappearance, are spoken to again that any hidden or deliberately concealed information will emerge.

I believe this is vitally necessary because only through this, will the where abouts of Madeleine McCann be discovered.

It is time for a full Public Inquiry to be held in Portugal into this bizarre and tragic event. Until this happens, this whole tragi, heartbreaking affair, will remain a blight on Portugal's name. This is going to keep on and on, it will never go away.

Portugal must start answering the many questions, no matter what it takes, or who it hurts, or whose career and name it will harm.

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Anonymous said...

Well done, Rosie - good response to 3A's and I hope they will not ban you for it. I am very proud of you - you certainly have shown that you have more class in your finger than Vile has in her entire body.

Rosiepops said...

I am not taking the moral highground Bren I am stating a fact and the lies about me on the 3 A's are getting ridiculous.

I have said some things about Tony Bennett yes I have and I have never denied it, why should I?

I believe Tony Bennett to be wholly wrong, I believe he has written a pamphlet full of unsubstantiated gossip and I have attacked him over that, what I haven't done is attack him personally or his religious beliefs.

There is a difference.

Mum21 said...

Message to Bren.

Surely you can see for yourself exactly what Viv's game is. Her blog is failing fast..so she is now trying to take over your forum as a place to constantly attack anyone who does not agree with her...especially Rosiepops. Now Rosie has hit back and another of your members has shown Viv up for what she is...what does Viv do....shout close the thread. FGS she openeded the damned thread in the first place....solely for the purpose of ridiculing Rosiepops. If you cannot see that for yourself...then you are not as intelligent as I thought you were.
I do not belong to the 3A's and have no intention of joining it.
But surely fair is fair.

Mum21 said...

See Bren...we are not there, but Claudia has now joined in.
We have no wish for our fight with Viv to expand onto your forum.
It is your forum...now deal with it!

Anonymous said...

Well done Claudia, you have made a fool of yourself yet again.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I remember you posting on Viv's blog a few weeks ago that the 3As are in self-destruct mode and you found that very amusing. In fact I believe you went on to say they deserved all they got.
So what do you now do, try to destruct it Claudia style.

Clever girl!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

So she did anon, thanks for the reminder.

Cláudia said...
The 3 Arguidos must now be in the ends of a crazy bunch. Otherwise none of what I've been reading would be allowed. Madeleine Beth McCann? Who?

Monday, 17 November 2008 22:52:00 o'clock GMT

Cláudia said...
I obviously meant in the 'hands' not 'ends'. :-)

Anyway, I predicted this some time ago. When all the paranoia about Mr Reis and Mr Levy started. I called it a smell of self destruction.

Monday, 17 November 2008 23:13:00 o'clock GMT

Anonymous said...

bonnybraes1 Post subject: Re: Game for a laugh?Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 8:56 pm

PR Spokesman


Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:46 pm
Posts: 7694
Location: watching the parcel of rogues This is purely a personal post, viv, but -personally - I have had more than enough of reading your nonsense.
Over the past few days, you have accused Mr Bennet of being an agent of Satan; one of the members of Rosiepops blogs of having a son who is on the sex offenders register, and me of being Rosiepops.
Enough is well past enough; you are not you are not big; you are not clever.
The majority of the members of this forum will never agree with Rosiepops and vice versa- so be it - at least we all know where we stand.
But some people followed your blog through thick and thin, and all I see now is nonsense. I simply do not know what your problem is, but can only suggest that a public forum is not the best place to address it.


Well said Bonny me lad!

Rosiepops said...

Mum and Anon

Well they cannot say they were not warned, Viv will carry on causing problems until she brings that forum to its knees, she has already started undermining Bonni.

Viv came here and took a perfectly reasonable post, took it over there and actually opened a thread to undermine me and ridicule me, now they may not agree with me over there, but at least this theory isn't one of the 3 A classics, like scalping poor Madeleine on May 2nd and forcing little Sean to wear the scalp complete with hair on May 3rd, so he will be mistaken for Madeleine!

How many threads have had to be locked no because of Viv?

Mum21 said...

To bonnybraes1 .

I was the person Viv accused of having a son on the sex offenders register. In my opinion after making a remark like that she has sunk below being the lowest of the low.
You and I are miles apart in our views about the Madeleine case....but I thank you for your support this evening.

Rosiepops said...

On this occasion I agree with Bonni.

This past two days I have been accused by Viv of being Phil McCann and Bonni, then Jon Corner one day, the next day Michael Wright and Kate's aunt, it is more than ridiculous it is truly and utterly pathetic.

In some way or another viv is going to try and blame what she has done on me, it is what she has always done, right back from the DX days.

Remember she got herself banned permanently on the DX for harassing me and then proving links that exposed another poster's true identity and that of his poor wife, after managing ti get herself permanently excluded, she blamed me for her exclusion!

The woman is a narcissist and she could not be more narcissistic if she tried!

Mum21 said...

The thing is Rosie, it is obvious she only opened that thread to further ridicule you. But this time to do it to a bigger audience.
It is a shame that Bren read your post in the wrong context...because you did not go there to abuse Tony Bennett...but to put the record straight re Viv.
As for Claudia...well, what can I say except she omitted to include the abusive posts we recieved to each of our comments she posted on the 3A's. It was a two sided argument. But a few of the 3a members have Viv summed up for what she is. Bonny and Miceandmen certainly have.

Rosiepops said...

Mum

I can't think why Bren is making this about Tony Bennett, it is not about him. I Used TB as an example of what Viv is doing and how she is using the 3 A's and its posters to do it, if Bren cannot see this then that is for her.

Viv opened that thread specifically to attack and personally abuse me.

Bren should actually see how I have been personally attacked on the 3 A's by people I do not even know before she gets on her moral high horse.

Those people are attacking me because of what Viv has said of me and it is all lies.

I am glad that Bonni has seen through Viv, at least she knows what to expect now.

Rosiepops said...

Claudia has posted some posts I made on the 3 A's.

Thank you so much for that Claudia, now they get a much bigger viewing, so I am really grateful to you. I stand by every every one of them.

i would like someone to tell me though where I have insulted the Portuguese people? Because I have not and I would not, I think they deserve better, far better that having a failed policeman making money out of a missing child, writing books, and getting paid for newspaper and magazine articles, getting paid to appear on TV and radio and now appearing in a film? In my opinion Goncalo Amaral is the lowest scum of all and I make no apologies for say it, making money out of Madeleine is just disgusting.

I am glad Claudia has published my comments, it clearly shows what I think and what I have always thought and that I do not tell lies and I have the courage of my own convictions.

I have not changed my position and I do not tell lies and blame other like Viv does, I stand by my words and if any of those 3 A posters would like to come on this blog and debate their issues with me or anyone else they are more than welcome.

One other thing, it was NOT me that took this to the 3 A;s, it was Viv.

Claudia must be thicker than she appears if she cannot see this.

I did not open that thread to ridicule me, Viv did.

Now who is she going to blame for this?

Meanwhile Claudia says she has been busy, yeah busy posting somewhere else with Docmac.

Both of these women would not know the truth if it jumped up and bit their large backsides!

Rosiepops said...

bonnybraes1 Post subject: Re: Game for a laugh?Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:16 pm

PR Spokesman


Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2007 7:46 pm
Posts: 7695
Location: watching the parcel of rogues Viv, you clearly have issues that are best, perhaps, not dealt with on a public forum. What is it you want - that everyone should join in some mad rant about the Mc Canns? That they are "precious" - to use your own personal description?
Because I am sorry. I will not do that. As far as I am concerned, there is something far far wrong with this matter.
Madeleine McCann walked into a void around about May 3rd; I do not think she will ever come out of it the way things are at present.
Yes, this forum debates many things - and I bet, if Mr Bennett, Rosiepops, Bren, Dr Amaral and us met over a meal, they would pretty much agree about a lot of things that are wrong with society. Because we all feel for every lost child, and to hell with the politics.
I simply do not know why you are chucking abuse at everyone, and acting as if you are the sole source of righteous knowledge.


Bonny, I would very much like to sit with Amaral and a few others because there are so many questions I would like to ask him.

I just cannot understand why is making this money out of Madeleine, it really upsets me. If he was trying to clear his name and NOT making vast sums, I could actually understand that and I would read and try my best to understand what he is saying, but his money making turns my stomach.

I am glad you have Viv sussed out because a few of us on here really know what she is capable of and it is not very nice.

I doubt we will ever agree on this, but in one thing you are right, we can all find common ground about something needing to be done about missing and abused children.

Poor Madeleine, but at least her dear little face is now an icon and it has forced us to open our eyes and see what it going on, in all countries.

You are right too, she did disappear into a void, and children just do not do this. Little girls on holiday do not just disappear off of the face of the earth, someone must know where she is.
I just cannot bear to think of what may have happened to her and if she is alive what may be happening to her, this is why I keep on and on, we have to find out, one way or another, we must find her.
How would it make us all look if we just gave up looking and she is still alive, needing to be found and brought home to her family?

Viv does not care about Madeleine, her reason every day is to sling abuse at everyone who dare to disagree with her, unfortunately I disagree with her and have told her so straight, this is why she keeps on the way she does.

Again you are correct, Viv carries on as if she is the only one that is permitted to do so and that her knowledge is superior to everyone elses. She does this because she is narcissistic.

Look at the trouble she has caused on your forum to date and I do not have to tell you, she is blaming me for this, but it was Viv who opened the thread to abuse and ridicule me and wanted others to do so, this again is another classic trait of a narcissist. If she had not opened that thread, I would not have felt the need after all of this time to venture over and try and put an end to her lies, it is as simple as that!

I almost joined last time when she wrote what she wrote about Tony Bennett and then tried to blame me for it - incredulus! However, I let that go, but this time she has gone too far!

Mum21 said...

Hello Bren,
I would have joined your forum this evening just to debate and reply to your post regarding Kate not answering the questions. But, I know it would be foolhardy of me to log in as Mum21...because just seeing my name would start both Claudia and Viv off on another rant of abuse. Which in my opinion is not fair on your forum. Our blog war should not be brought to your forum...but at the same time I know that is the only reason Viv started that thread. She wanted what happened tonight to happen.

Here is my opinion:-

I agree with much of what Rosiepops said...but not all. I do agree that the answer to this case is simple...but something that was missed on day one due to the start of investigation not being as thorough as it should have been. Mr Amaral should have sealed off the apartment straight away...interviewed everyone including the staff straight away...and much,much more. The key to a good investigation is on day one.
As for Kate not answering the questions...well the answer to that is simple. She was advised by her lawyer not to answer them...and there is no point in having a lawyer if you ignore his advice. You have to remember there was a vast language barrier between Kate and the PJ....that in itself must be confusing to say the least.
I could go on and on...but it would take all night.

Rosiepops said...

Yes I did call Bonny a name. We have exchanged 'words' the both of us. Strange because to the best of my knowledge I have never communicated with her directly, yet there we were exchanging words!

This is a prime example of how two people can get off on the wrong foot, because of lies and disinformation put around by the likes of Viv. And Claudia has often been just as bad. People read the lies written by Viv and they believe them.

For the record I do not deny what I said about Amaral, t is my beliefs and I am entitled to them, however NEVER have I once inferred that all Portuguese people are like this, for one simple reason, I do not think it.

If Bren would like to come here and be brave and quote where she thinks I have been xenophobic, then I will happily debate the issue with her.

If Bren you have no intention of doing so, then stop acting big and brave over there, knowing I will not post again because as I said I have no wish to upset your forum, the idea was I came, made one post and went, as it happens I made two, one of those was to you.

Bren FYI It was your member Viv that opened that thread in order to attack and ridicule me, she not only wanted to do this, she also wanted to encourage other posters to do it.

How does this serve Madeleine?

No thread, no me.

I said I wanted to stop this ridiculous feuding, who carried it on? Viv and Claudia, only they are now dragging you into it. Who is now not letting the subject drop in spite of you trying to refocus it on the debate? Viv and Claudia.

If Bren cannot see what is happening, then perhaps she will when Viv brings that forum to its knees, because she is for sure going to do it.

And Bren stop keep telling me to go back to my blog, I had after my second post, the only people extending this argument is Viv, Claudia and yourself.

I have seen other people on the 3 A's banned for much less than Viv has caused on there. Are you scared of her or something?

Oh well you will learn, because Viv cannot control herself, in spite of herself she will cause you big problems. She will because she is a narcissist.

For all the posts she has posted on there tonight, there is not one that I would change, I mean them and I stand by them, why?

Because I am honest, not xenophobic, just pragmatic and honest!

I wanted this feuding to stop, Viv obviously doesn't, now ask yourself why?

Viv does not care about Madeleine- end of.

Anonymous said...

Rosiepops,
I hope you don't mind if I post this on here.
I just want to ask posters on the
3A's, and Bren in particular why they allow Viv to get away with this crap.
I think Viv is running the 3A's along with Claudia, that is why she can do and say what she wants without getting banned. Either that or she has some sort of hold over them.

Unknown said...

but you just cannot stop yourself writing about me, can you? It is a serious obsession you need to get over, you just cannot keep writing such terible abuse about people. There is no excuse for it.

Anonymous said...

Hey Stalker,
Tony Bennetts posting about you, on 3A's. Ask claws how she manages to post without logging in lolololololol...

Tinkerbell43 said...

Vile, grow up you stupid woman and start practising what you preach.

You are the queen of abuse, you have asked for everything you have got.

2 examples of your campaign of hate are a comment about Mums son being on the sex offenders register and a post where you mention sending Rosie a wreath.

You have the audacity to say to Rosie she cant keep writing terrible abuse about people! Jeez you are the biggest hypocrite to stalk the internet.

You no longer have an audience on your own blog, so where better to go than the 3A's to try and continue your hate campaign against Rosie.

The 3A's will not be as easily fooled as your own members were.

Message to the 3A's, Vile is a nasty piece of work, she always has been and always will be!. She is a liability dont let her use you for her own agenda.

Rosiepops said...

What Bren doesn't know and what Viv doesn't want her to know, is that Viv started this off about 17 months ago.

Viv got herself banned from the DX when she was Viv, she came back as FELICITY and got herself banned under that ID too. Then the DX had enough of her and banned her IP, after she came back as Onaclearday, Plainwaters etc etc. For some really weird and spooky behaviour, reading the banter between Felicity and Plainwaters, was spine chilling.
She then opened her blog and Felicity, replying to herself as Viv while also pretending to be Plainwaters, she was actually having a three way conversation with herself. Not to mention all the other IDs, Penelope, Josie public, Bedrest.

Through all of her campaign of sheer hatred against Kate and Gerry McCann and anyone she thinks is associated with them, her closest ally has been Claudia.

Viv has had more IDs than Yellow pages! But each ID of hers portrays narcissistic character traits; I bet Viv has had problems like this all of her life, pushing people to the limits of their endurance until they snap and leave her.

Lies; disinformation; bullying; boasting; egomaniac; infantile behaviour; perpetually blaming other people for her own problems; unable to accept criticism; vicious; spiteful; fantasist; fanaticism and FALSE affection and flattery of her victims. Viv can gush for Britain!

Tinks is correct in all she says. Viv now unable to get a real audience on her blog, as most sane people have seen her for what she is and have left, Viv has decided to move her obsessions over to the 3 A's.

Quite how Bren cannot see what other people can see is odd.

How come other people have been banned for causing far less trouble on there, while Viv has caused terrible trouble and is still there?

Where does Madeleine fit into Viv and her campaign of hatred and vitriol?

Perhaps Viv should just do away with her many ideas and come together under just one? I suggest Norman, 'Norman Bates'.

Gina said...

viv said...
but you just cannot stop yourself writing about me, can you? It is a serious obsession you need to get over, you just cannot keep writing such terible abuse about people. There is no excuse for it.

08 February 2009 00:59

Ha bloody ha, that is rich coming from you considering the abuse you have fired at others in order to get yourself noticed. No excuse for it you say, so what is your excuse ?? You would be devasted if nobody mentioned you as this has case has been nothing more to you than an attention seeking and brainwashing mission on your part.

You attack anybody that disagrees with you, you hate anybody who gets more noticed and listened to than yourself, and you accuse without facts and evidence. God help any poor sod that was standing on the opposing side to you in court. Did you ever give them the chance to prove they may be innocent, did you ever listen. If you expect us to believe you were ever a lawyer then you have to believe that I was once the pope

Rosiepops said...

Gina said...(excerpt)

You attack anybody that disagrees with you, you hate anybody who gets more noticed and listened to than yourself, and you accuse without facts and evidence. God help any poor sod that was standing on the opposing side to you in court. Did you ever give them the chance to prove they may be innocent, did you ever listen. If you expect us to believe you were ever a lawyer then you have to believe that I was once the pope

08 February 2009 11:12
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Succinct and well put!

Her story is now that Viv never said she was a solicitor, she said that she was a lawyer, it is semantics.

Viv tells so many lies that she forgets what she has said, she also once said that her 'other' career was that of a 'probation officer'.

Liar Viv.

Gina said...

Rosie,

I have no problem with opposing views, theories, etc. and whilst I do not agree with many posters I do have respect for them and their opinions. Viv does not warrant any respect whatsoever for what she is doing and the way she is doing it because it is now so clear that this is nothing more than a point scoring game to her. Bad news for her is she cannot see she is in a no win situation. Her problem not mine :-)

Gina said...

BTW Rosie, I have to go out now so if Viv comes on here with her usual rubbish about me attacking her because she banned me, perhaps I should point out now that that is not the case. She is the one with the problem. I am more anti (I suppose) than pro so she has a problem understanding why if that is the case I do not agree with her and she hates the fact that I have the guts to say so and would have done on her blog given half the chance. I think she must be praying I get banned from here.

Rosiepops said...

Gina,

Getting banned from here is not going to happen, we are not afraid to put opposing comments up.

By discussing this and thinking about all the possibilities is how Madeleine is going to be located. I have no doubts that this is what the McCanns team of detectives is doing and I have no doubt that this is what the PJ should have done, right from the word go.
I firmly believe if this is what happened then Madeleine would have been found.

Gina said...

Thanks for not banning me, I promise to try and put the ** in when I use words that I should not :-)

I sincerely hope that Madeleine will be found but I am not too hopeful I am sorry to say. The who dun it situation would have been much further ahead, if not resolved by now if certain steps had been taken during the "golden hour". That is all I am saying on that subject. TTFN

Anonymous said...

Oh Dear Gina,

You honestly don't think we take anything Vile says as true do you?
I bet she can't lie straight in bed!


Christabel

Anonymous said...

A few figures for viv.

We have 105 registered users.

Most users ever online was 67 on Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:34 pm

SIXTY SEVEN!
Have YOU ever had that many users under your little rock? Have YOU ever had that many users on line at any time? Just wondering!

Mum21 said...

Hi Rosie,
I have a few things I would like to say about Viv's escapade last night. For the first time ever I read comments from members on the 3A'a that proved no matter whether a person be anti or pro McCann there is a difference between right and wrong.
What Viv did last night was deplorable...and many 3A's members could see that for themselves and made very clear their feelings on her constant mischief making. But of course she is so thick skinned it was like water off a ducks back.
The very fact both Viv and Claudia carried on posting comments from here AFTER it was requested by Admin to stop the crap and debate...to me shows just how evil these two people are. They do not give a damn about anyone...all they want is to poke fun at people in a very childish way. What was it a member of the 3A's said "They are like children in a playground". How very right that member was. In fact I would go one step further and say "Petulant children in a playground".
Lets leave Viv for a moment and turn our attention on Claudia. Can anyone point me in the direction of a post made by Claudia that actually debated anything about any subject? I have searched the threads on the 3A's and Viv's blog...and all the posts by Claudia I have come up with are of the type as follows: "PMSL". "I am to young to be incontinent". "His name is AMARAL" "The sh-t will hit the fan". " I know somebody very close to the investigation". " I will not break a trust". " You are a LIAR". "Child neglect protectors".

Need I go on? They are rarely more than one or two liners. Claudia is just an overgrown child who loves nothing better than to poke her nose into any conversation where insults are flying. She thrives on it!

I do not share the same views as Bonny re the Madeleine mystery...and have many times made that blatantly clear. But I admire her for sticking up to Viv even though her co-admin did not have the guts to do so. Well done Bonny!

Anonymous said...

Hi Mum,

Very well put.

I appreciate to quote all of Claudia's childish one sentance quotes would take all night, but lets not forget her constant cry of Xenophobia!

When all else fails, you can rely on this card being played.

This is how stupid she is, our quest has never been about the people of Portugal, why would it be ? Also, it is Claudia herself for the person she is that I despise, it has nothing to do with her nationality.

Rosiepops said...

Mum Said...(Excerpt)

I do not share the same views as Bonny re the Madeleine mystery...and have many times made that blatantly clear. But I admire her for sticking up to Viv even though her co-admin did not have the guts to do so. Well done Bonny!

08 February 2009 22:40


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I agree with this to Mum, both Bonny and I have made no bones about the fact that we disagree with each other over Madeleine, but at least she and some others over there on the 3 A's had the guts to stand up to Viv and her constant trouble making.

I also agree about Claudia, I cannot remember her making one decent thought out post, not even on the DX, it was just the same sarcastic one liners and she would always mysteriously appear if there was any trouble.

You are right Claudia is as bad as Viv, they both thrive on this.
Neither of them care about Madeleine.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Anon at 23:03 was from me.

Rosiepops said...

Hi Anon 23.03

I noticed the old 'xenophobia' accusations were flying again last night.

Bren accused me of being xenophobic, I offered her a Chance to come here and point out in which post of mine she thought I was being xenophobic but she didn't feel the need to take me up on it.

I have not got a fear of foreigners or foreign things. I simply disagree with one Portuguese person Goncalo Amaral, i think he is a slug that will do anything for money.

This is far from being afraid of all Portuguese people, I have never heard such silly nonsense.

Rosiepops said...

Found this, viv talking to johncar on the DX and being replied to by another poster.

You will note that even here someone else is questioning Viv's claim to being a solicitor!

Liar Viv!
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07.11.07, 3:38pm

You are a fantacist - barristers prosecute serious cases in the Crown Court not policemen. So tell me on the murder cases did you pop off to the Crown Court with your wig and gown. You sillly man!

• Posted by: Viv • Report Comment
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JohnCar is a fantasist??? He has answered your questions on his background and you point blank refuse. Can't help thinking your "experience" comes from watching an episode of Ali McBeale

bp42

Rosiepops said...

While I remember I must thank Viv and Claudia for putting all my posts up on the 3 A's, this ensured that many more people got to read them.

Thanks much obliged.

Mum21 said...

Hi Rosie and Tinks,

I also have nothing against Portuguese people in general...just Amaral and Claudia. I was not keen on Alsabella...but at least she could and did debate.
Claudia, in my opinion is just a waste of Portuguese space. She is certainly not a good advert for the Portuguese people.

Rosiepops said...

Mum talking of insulting behaviour, do you remember when they called us 'Highway Whores?'

I bet they don't reproduce that post on the 3 A's.

Mum21 said...

07.11.07, 3:38pm

You are a fantacist - barristers prosecute serious cases in the Crown Court not policemen. So tell me on the murder cases did you pop off to the Crown Court with your wig and gown. You sillly man!

• Posted by: Viv • Report Comment
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That is not strictly true Viv. Actually a prosecuter (namely a barrister)prosecutes on behalf of the police. So it is in fact the police who take the case to court.
Perhaps you are forgetting this is Britain...not Portugal.

Unknown said...

Mum. I just happened to be looking in:-)) It is the Crown Prosecution Service that take a case to court, not the police, stick to whatever it is you are good at.

Rosiepops said...

Here is an old Dx post, posted by Viv, that actually proves what you commented Mum!
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CLAUDIA
09.11.07, 1:13am
As ever you entertain and cheer me immensely with your acid wit:

forced to go there (a court of law)in their new very stylish bracelets called cuffs!


ROFLING ROFLING ROFLING

KEEP EM COMING!

• Posted by: Viv • Report Comment

Mum21 said...

Before Viv notices it....I made a spelling error in my last post. It should be "prosecutor"

Anonymous said...

Viv make the most wonderful spelling mistake when she calls Johncar a 'fantacist' so I wouldn't worry too much Mum.

Rosiepops said...

Viv just happened to be looking, yeah - more lies.

Liar Viv

Mum21 said...

Rosie...of course Claudia was refering to Amaral re the cuffs. lolololololol (another Claudia trademark)

Rosiepops said...

More libellous comments from Viv, only this one proves she is a liar, note the change in what she was writing then to now. Now she believes that Gerry abducted his own daughter.

I think Viv has done this on purpose to try and get Gerry vilified the same way that Karen Matthews was vilified. Remember Karen Matthews Viv? You were wrong there as well puddled brain.
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HELLO AGAIN LIZZIE
09.11.07, 2:15am
I agree they give whole new meaning to the word arrogance and their hair brained schemes including Metodo 3 and latest announcement to sue PJ for £1M just never fails to stagger me. I wonder though if the penny is beginning to drop - someone reported earlier on no one at home at Team McCann headquarters in Rothley even suggestion they are in Spain. It is too late for Little Maddie now apart from a decent burial but those poor poor little twins - I hope something good is being planned for them to try and grow up as normal people.
• Posted by: Viv • Report Comment

Mum21 said...

viv said...
Mum. I just happened to be looking in:-)) It is the Crown Prosecution Service that take a case to court, not the police, stick to whatever it is you are good at.

08 February 2009 23:37

As I have told you many times...you would be amazed if you knew what was once my profession.
I repeat " The Crown Prosecution takes the case to court on behalf of the police"

Now do us all a favour..go back to your stinking hole and stay there. You are not welcome here....you are a menace to society.
There is no way we will allow you to do to our blog what you have done to the 3A's.

Now BOG OFF!!

Rosiepops said...

Viv is speaking of growing up into normal people, what a dreadful thing to say about those twins.

Pity Viv does just grow up, however Viv will never be normal, this is too much to hope for.

Rosiepops said...

Mum,

You note Viv's arrogance and insane hostility towards JohnCar?

Why was that?

1..John was getting far more attention than Viv.

2..John actually knew what he was talking about.

3..John used to be a real detective and gave his rank and number to prove it.

All this brought out Viv's narcissistic hatred, spite and venom.

Mum21 said...

Anon...even the word "bitch" is too good for describing Viv.

Rosiepops said...

Mum21 said...
Rosie...of course Claudia was refering to Amaral re the cuffs. lolololololol (another Claudia trademark)

08 February 2009 23:43
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Amazing how this spiteful pair of narcissistic witches, stay awfully quiet about the five PJ who are in the doc answering charges of perjury, and perverting the course of justice.

Mum21 said...

Viv. you said you just happened to be looking :-). What were you actually looking for...more posts to paste on the 3A's?

Mum21 said...

You are right there Rosie. You will also find that a female dog has more compassion and loyalty in one paw than Viv has in the whole of her body.

Rosiepops said...

Here is another particularly nasty post from Viv, where she is actually suggesting that another poster on the DX could be a paedophile.

Now Viv has always denied she inferred this, in fact she got me banned from the DX because I told the truth about Viv.

Here it is in black and white.

Liar Viv!

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HELLO ELIZABETH
11.11.07, 11:42pm
Yes and loving and caring for your children in the UK where you can buy a 'bag of brown' (heroin) on most street corners for as little as £5 means giving them proper supervision, discipline, rules and routine. I think it was yesterday a poster had pointed out that the one photo recently released of Kate with Maddie on a pony was itself a picture of neglect because it was a cold April day and prior to the photo getting clipped you could see everyone but little Maddie had a coat on - she does look pale and cold in that pic althugh obviously smiling.

I noted in response to this one regular McPologist told us on no less than five occasions children not wear jumpers and cardigans - she breezily told us her own children will not. Another man even said his child would not wear shoes and another even underpants (which reallly rang alarm bells - sexual abuse indicator). To such parents I would say this - it is your job to protect your children from harm and that includes making sure they are properly dressed. I had three boisterous little boys but if I decided they were wearing a coat they wore it - there was never an issue of them telling me what they were an were not going to do at aged 3 years - what hope would they have with such a child at 13 years of age! No wonder kids get into so much trouble when you have parents with attitudes like this!
• Posted by: Viv • Report Comment

Rosiepops said...

Mum21 said...
Viv. you said you just happened to be looking :-). What were you actually looking for...more posts to paste on the 3A's?

09 February 2009 00:01
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Mum, I wonder if she will take any of my posts tonight concerning her and her nasty dirty little lies?

Rosiepops said...

Madeleine did not look cold and pale in that picture, in fact she looked the picture of health.
This is just another attempt by Viv to turn Kate McCann into some uncaring mother.

In fact this is a lovely picture, a happy, smiling Kate with her happy smiling daughter and Viv had to try and sully Kate's precious memory of her daughter.

Despicable! Why don't you take that post to the 3 a's Viv?

Liar Viv!

Anonymous said...

It is all down to envy. Greed and envy are Viv's biggest traits.

She is greedy, that is why she idolises Amaral and what he has done.

She lack the compassion and empathy that normal humans have and is unable to see the fund for what it really is for. Viv only regards it in terms of money, and as so much money was made it makes her mad. She explodes with envy about this and embarks on a smear campaing against the McCanns.

That is also why she hates anyone she perceives as more successful than her and those who command respect on the blogs such as Mum21 and Rosie.

This is why she has to lie and brag about careers, jobs, experience, successful law suits, gardens holidays, expensive work done on the house...

Viv an empty being, devoid of any feelings. Hatred is what keeps her going, poisoning her and those around her.

Rosiepops said...

Here is another despicable post from Viv where she actually wants Madeleine dead!

Big Fat Liar Viv
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HELLO BETTY
11.11.07, 11:10pm
I agree death in the apartment would have been a far better alternative to being a little maid in Morocco for the last 6 months like the McPologists were trying to get us to swallow a few weeks back and seriouly riled and upset me. They would be quite happy for people to believe this than believe the truth about the parents. The same let us see how much we can make out of this mentality - sick and tasteless! We heard on here how mummy and daddy were going to rescue her from this 6 months of torture. Hang on little darling.... Just How dare they!
• Posted by: Viv • Report Comment

Rosiepops said...

Now hang on a minute Viv, didn't you just say that you 'never once said you were solicitor?' You inferred that instead you said you were a lawyer, you playing on semantics.

Well here in this post, you clearly say that lawyers are highly paid!

Lies, lies and more lies from Viv.

(By the way you spelled particularly incorrectly.)
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HELLO ATHENA
11.11.07, 10:59pm
It is not an impression of middle class motherhood that I have come across, but do know that among the wealthy in London, including very highly paid city lawyers and bankers snorting coke is considered a good way to spend some of the excess cash. Maybe when these saddos get around to having children in their mid thirties they are hooked on this highly addictive crap which is known to exacerbate an aggressive, selfish personality. It certainly provides food for thought - partiucularly the talk of all those little tots being dumped in one room hopefully asleep - lots of parallels to be drawn!
• Posted by: Viv • Report Comment

Rosiepops said...

You can see from all these posts that Viv has made, right back on the Daily Express forums, that her whole objective was to create a one big hate the McCanns at any cost fest, in which she was revelling in joining.
One can clearly see that Viv not only wanted confrontation, she actually thrived on it!

Rosiepops said...

Oops oh dear claudia, another post which proves what we have been saying about you! Even the DX banned you for your insults towards other posters!
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***THIS COMMENT HAS BEEN REMOVED***
15.10.07, 2:21am
This user has been blocked due to constant rule breaking
• Posted by: Claudia79 • Report Comment

Rosiepops said...

More posts that clearly show how Viv has been the agressor all along. narcissist!
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YES ME TOO ALSABELLA!
30.10.07, 2:13am
but I can see there are one or two who makes posts on here that demonstrate they have parted company with reality a long time ago...I previously suggested she seeks help but she did not like that!
• Posted by: Viv • Report Comment


CHRISTABEL
30.10.07, 1:59am
Which bit of it is rubbish

that Kate mourns her little girl?
that Gerry wants to get back to normal?
that the Spanish psychiatrist has observed Kate has been mentally ill for a long time but now she is worse?

None of it! It is you that writes rubbish - whether or not you need a psychiatrist I will leave you to decide...
• Posted by: Viv • Report Comment

Rosiepops said...

Hi Viv,

Feel free to take my posts of tonight and open a thread with them on the 3 A's.

Goodnight.

Rosiepops said...

More Proof (If It Is Needed, That Viv Is A Liar!) Following is a post posted by me, picking Viv up on inferring that another DX poster was some kind of sex offender. Viv took my post and included it in her own, to deny she said what she said.

Note even at this early stage the trouble she was causing on the DX boards and her total inability to accept responsibility for her own actions and comments! Viv said this because the DX mods were so disgusted with what she wrote they removed her post. After the person concerned complained about her, Viv was banned.
Viv managed to get Christabel and myself banned at that time too, because we had a go at her for saying such terrible things about people.
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ROSIEPOPS I AM TOL YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED AND YOUR CODUCT IS BEING MONITORE D THAT DOES NOT STOP YOU DOES IT!
13.11.07, 1:19am

I have not accused anyone of being a sex offender so why dont you do everyone a favour and wind your foul neck in:


VIV
13.11.07, 12:37am

Wind your neck in.

It was icantthinkofaname that mentioned the urinating and this was a little bit of trivia.

I see you upsetting other people again by referring to them as possible child sex offenders.

You are priceless.

• Posted by: Rosiepops • Report Comment

• Posted by: Viv • Report Comment

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You denied writing this but here it is in black and white.

More Proof that Viv is a foul, crass and evil liar!
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HELLO ELIZABETH
11.11.07, 11:42pm

I noted in response to this one regular McPologist told us on no less than five occasions children not wear jumpers and cardigans - she breezily told us her own children will not.

Another man even said his child would not wear shoes and another even underpants (which reallly rang alarm bells - sexual abuse indicator).


• Posted by: Viv • Report Comment

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You do not learn do you?

You seem to have a thing about FALSELY accusing people of being sex offenders.

You have accused Gerry McCann of sexually abusing his own daughter, to shut her up and because she her parents could not earn anymore money from her, you said they murdered her!

Recently you stated that Mum21's son was on the Sex Offenders Register.

How dare you say these things? I suggest and to quote your words back at you,

"You Need Help Lady!"

You foul excuse of a woman, you are a disgrace to woman kind.

The other posters on the 3 A's had better be careful because it will not be long before Viv starts accusing them of such things, she can't help it, she cannot control herself.

Gina said...

Rosie, I do not think we need anymore examples of what Viv does and says, we know. We also know that if anyone persists in disagreeing with her (even if they are polite) she starts a vendetta against them. We have tried to warn people but it is their choice whether they chose to listen. Some people will chose to find out the hard way!

Rosiepops said...

Hi Gina,

You're right. These examples (and there are many, many more) I put up because I am sick of Viv fooling people into believing that she is some kind of hard done by victim.
Over the past months I have retaliated when provoked by her, I did it against my better judgment, I knew it would be better to ignore her, but I believe that people should see who they are defending and that a few of us on here are not lying or exaggerating when we have told what she has said and done over the past 18 months, now they can make their own minds up and at the very least they can see for themselves.

Mum and I could not even have an innocent conversation about the snow and wildlife, without Viv crashing into that conversation telling us that we were only mentioning wildlife because of something she said about our blog on the 3A's! Can you believe this? She had gone onto the 3 A's provided a link for them to see what we were talking about and when they came, they read us having a chat about wildlife, so to save face, she had to make the whole thing about her and carried on as if she is the only one allowed to like wildlife and gardens, because apparently she paid someone to come in and do her garden for her!
Same thing about decorating, telling everyone she had a decorator in to do it all for her, same thing about feeling the need to tell everyone she was having oak floors etc laid. Same thing she told everyone about going on holiday to Egypt and how she paid for everyone etc. She has been going on about this for months. Rubbing it in to her posters that she somehow managed to a compensation payment of thousands of pounds for unfair dismissal.
I bet her employers thought that was a price worth paying to get shot of the trouble making narcissistic witch!

Had enough of her nastiness Gina and I have had enough of her telling bare face lies about me and my friends family. I was absolutely disgusted with what she wrote about a totally innocent man who she has never spoken to and does NOT know, how dare she say those things?

Anonymous said...

Rosie, how odd Vile is always talking about sex offenders. Do you know it is afact that most sex offenders actually do this themselves?

Rosiepops said...

Anon 10.35

We would not dream of accusing her of something like this, but I do think it is odd that she keeps mentioning it and what she accused Gerry of was just plain evil!

Gina said...

Rosie some people just have to let people know what they have got. I remember someone saying they had 3 bathrooms :-) !!!

Viv does not care how she gets noticed as long as she is noticed. It is probably the first time in her life she has been noticed and she is loving it. I'm not sure if we should bother to notice her or not anymore

Anonymous said...

Rosiepops said...
Anon 10.35

We would not dream of accusing her of something like this, but I do think it is odd that she keeps mentioning it and what she accused Gerry of was just plain evil!

09 February 2009 10:40
No offence intended here Rosiepops but it took you all long enough.

As you know Rosiepops I have viewed your blog for some time now.
Which means I have Viewed septic Viv's posts too.

Let's clear one thing up first.
She isn't a lawyer.
UK have, Solicitors, Barristers and Judges.
However if she is from my side of the pond, it still wouldn't make her a Lawyer. Lawyers here as you may know, do not go into the Probation service, unless of course they are failed lawyers. Which would make her the worst Lawyer on the face of the earth.

We like our lawyers here, we tend to sue right left and center,so we do need lots of them. Perhaps we can now strike one of her false claims from her imagination now?

Let's look at her probation officer claim. Not in a million years was this mentally challenged person ever in the legal system.
Unless of course she was an inmate?

Now if by any chance she was, and I say this with tongue in cheek; a probation officer, she would know from day one her private life will forever be monitored.

Officialdom tend to keep an eye on their ex crew; in case they have or will at sometime or another strike up a close relationship with a con. The bosses don't like that you see. Weakness in the system makes them a bit nervous.

One thing I am curious about. Has this woman been around a lot of paedophiles and child abusers?

She appears somewhat overly absorbed in them. Anyone who can look at an innocent picture of a mother and child and make a snap judgement on that child being abused; has some deep rooted psychological problems.

Her constant need to attack other posters verbally if they dare to question her thinking; also indicates severe insecurity.

In my opinion the VIV woman should seek therapy. Sooner rather than later.

Rosiepops said...

No offence taken Tony.

We always knew Viv was not right and we were very alarmed at her accusations about Gerry McCann with regards to Madeleine. Her and another poster called 'ecolab' would exchanged posts that were really alarming, concerning child abuse, Madeleine and her father.
We did try and stop them, we pointed it out in the hope that other more rational people on her blog would try and steer them away from this subject, pointing out the harm these unsubstantiated accusations could do and we also pointed out that this kind of talk would make their blog a target for any passing paedophile. Of course we may as well have saved our energy, we were met with the usual insults, derision and personal attacks. The most alarming thing to emerge from this was another poster on Viv's blog suddenly named her children and started writing about her underage daughter's sex life with her boyfriend in his house!

Tony we were extremely alarmed about this, another poster called Supertroll and I, and a few others tried our best to get this woman to take these details off of that blog. At first we asked and tried to point out the danger of this, in the hope that our concerns would be listened to, but we were ignored and then we got really angry and tried to pressure the mother into removing the information, we also asked Viv outright as she was author of that blog, to remove that child's details immediately, did she? (Viv) Not on your Nell, her considered response to our pleas was to encourage the woman concerned to name her children all over again and she did, and others joined her in naming their children on Viv's blog. However while Viv was actively encouraging the naming of these children and telling her posters that is was fine to name their children on her filthy blog, she made a post stating she would not name her grandchildren because their names were sacrosanct!

Talk about hypocritical!

Eventually this 'ecolab' whoever he was drifted away after some argument and the last I knew, he was posting his filth (or trying to) on the 3 A's, but I did hear that they twigged him and to their credit, I think they banned him, although I am not a 100% sure of this.

It is not until recently that we placed all these different posts together and realised that perhaps something is not quite right on that forum. They also had another poster who seemed to enjoy surfing the internet for anything at all to do with child sexual abuse and he would copy it and come back to Viv's blog and paste it there. We did actually point it out that this was not normal behaviour, but were met with the usual abuse and personal attacks from them.

This is why we re-opened this blog, to try and keep Viv in check, none of us like being here doing this, we have another big project on the go that we would all much rather devote our time to, but none of the authorities were doing a thing about her blog and she was carrying on posting filth, lies and being openly libellous about the McCanns etc, so we had to do something.

For all of the people that said we should not answer Viv and allow her and her blog to fade away, well we tried for a couple of months and it did not work, she got worse and more desperate and now because we have successfully exposed her blog for what it really is (a rat infested sewer), Viv has taken herself and her lies, venom and vitriol to the 3 A's, where some are allowing her to get away with it. Still this is for them to realise what they have in their midst, we can do no more. None of us here wish to have a running feud with the 3 A's anyway.

Anonymous said...

Every one of the comments today mentions Viv except one which mentions Claudia.

What is going on?

I read umpteen blogs because of Madeleine. I am interested in no-one else.

Please remember Madeleine and show her the respect she deserves.

Anonymous said...

Can I assume the blog belonging to this woman is still on the Internet; along with the offending literature too?

Rosiepops said...

Anon 17.43

They mention her for a reason.

With the greatest respect, if you do not like this blog, please feel free to go read on of your "umpteen others".

Rosiepops said...

Hi Tony

Yes it is still on the internet, as for the comments, I don't know I do not read that blog anymore and I do not go over there, the only posts I read of hers these days are those other people bring here and that is enough. I believe she has removed quite a few posts though, apparently she was made to clean it up.

Anonymous said...

Nice posts from Viv to an anonymous poster:

felicity said...
Anon..your personality disorder shines through:-)

Happy posting.

Luv ya
Viv x

Monday, 11 February 2008 22:09:00 o'clock GMT

Anonymous said...
Felicity...so does yours :-)

Monday, 11 February 2008 22:12:00 o'clock GMT

felicity said...
Anon - but my children are all alive and well :-)

Monday, 11 February 2008 22:13:00 o'clock GMT

Anonymous said...

A post by Viv about Rosie, made shortly after Rosie had to put her pet dog down...

felicity said...
Hiya Doc

Sounds like you had a fantastic time - how awesome to come that close to a lion!

Male lions - always in charge ! The female lions have to go and do the hunting and then they just push her out the way whilst they get their fill. Those bruises on Kate McCann, those grab marks on her arm and that horrible bruise on her elbow where she fell..someone pushed her out the way!


Another sick little quote from "Rosie" this evening who just cannot bear to change "her" profile from stating that she is a male! :

No not yet, but I am going to get another soon, I am waiting for one to come to us and that will be the one we are intended to have.

I believe in this because most of the animals I have had have arrived in this way
Published: Monday February 11,2008 by Rosiepops
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Psychopaths don’t like animals do they..they like to cut them up and hurt them…

When I studied domestic violence it was stressed that even if the family do have a pet such a husband will hurt the pet or kill it to upset the wife…causing such terror being a form of control. Very sick people.. Also such men have a very low opinion of women "animals" often being the way they are described. "I have had"… possession rather than something they love.

Rosiepops makes my blood run cold!
Viv x

Monday, 11 February 2008 22:40:00 o'clock GMT

Anonymous said...

One of the best posts ever written about Viv...

Anonymous said...
Do you recognise yourself here Felicity? you should do, but then again if you are sociopathic, you wont I suppose. Get help you need it, urgently!

Glibness and Superficial Charm

Manipulative and Conning

They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible.

They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used.

They may dominate and humiliate their victims.


Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right." (recognise your dellusions here Viv/Felicty)

Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis.
(You are always telling lies, disgusting sick lies at that. You always have, even as a child no one could believe you. Recognise yourself?)

Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests. (Yes you again)


Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt

A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. (Very True)

Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. (Recognise yourself?)

Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. (Viv/Felicity to a T)

The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.

Shallow Emotions

When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. (Absolutely shockingly evident of you)

Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person.
(You described perfectly)

Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.

Incapacity for Love (Yep you again)

Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge.

Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. (Here you are yet again Viv)

Promiscuity and gambling are common. (Is this why your old man run off?)


Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them. (You again, see the pattern?)


Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, (There you are again)

alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim.

Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others. (So true GET HELP YOU NEED IT!)


Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency (Do you? bet you do)

Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet "gets by" by conning others. (Yes you again Viv, it is so clear)

Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc. (There you are again)


Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. (How many lives and dreams have you wrecked? Is that why you kids can't show you affection?)

Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed. (Here you are yet again)


Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.


Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle (What will you do with your life when this is all over? Thought about that yet?)


Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.


Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.

You should take great notice of this Felicity/Viv because take it from someone that knows, you need help, for your own sake seek it now.

I bet you haven't even got the guts to leave this up so every one can recognise you for what you really are.

Tuesday, 12 February 2008 03:05:00 o'clock GMT

Rosiepops said...



Viv Said....(Excerpt)

Another sick little quote from "Rosie" this evening who just cannot bear to change "her" profile from stating that she is a male!


Psychopaths don’t like animals do they..they like to cut them up and hurt them…

When I studied domestic violence it was stressed that even if the family do have a pet such a husband will hurt the pet or kill it to upset the wife…causing such terror being a form of control. Very sick people.. Also such men have a very low opinion of women "animals" often being the way they are described. "I have had"… possession rather than something they love.

Rosiepops makes my blood run cold!
Viv x

Monday, 11 February 2008 22:40:00 o'clock GMT

09 February 2009 22:43

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I remember this it was on the Daily Express forum. Viv keeps saying she did not say this, here again she is caught lying!

She was always going on about me being male, she was fixated with it and she still calls me 'it' to this day!
Shows how appallingly thick she is anyway, because having made a mistake on your profile on the DX, you could not change this particular part, many antis made the same mistake, if you did not check a box it put you male by default, same if you did not put where you were from it put you in Edinburgh by default!

The sickness of this post is there for all to see and some people wonder why I do not allow this horrible narcissistic woman to get away with it.

Rosiepops said...

By the way you sad sick woman Viv, how else am I supposed to describe how I came to owning animals that just turned up on my doorstep?

People are descrbed as 'owners', so are you saying that all those that own dos are psychopaths?

Still no fear of an animal turning up on your doorstep looking for a home, animals are intuitive, they would take one look at you and turn around and run with their fur standing up on end!

Anonymous said...

Rosie, you said...
Still no fear of an animal turning up on your doorstep looking for a home, animals are intuitive, they would take one look at you and turn around and run with their fur standing up on end!

So True...
check out this post by Viv:

felicity said...
Hiya Dillie

My son is currently putting a super pic of my red lored amazon on my computer for me and he will get his own thread where we can talk about our gorgeous pets.

I visited a couple last night who have two parrots and two dogs. I actually thought the alsation was going to eat me alive but boldly continued into their home with the usual entreaty, dont worry she wont hurt you. Blood pressure has just gone back down a bit now:-)

One of the parrots eyed me suspiciously but would not talk. The other one went as far away as possible and turned its back. My bird sometimes offers people this treatment!

Luv Viv x

Saturday, March 8, 2008 2:52:00 PM PST


Every single animal had a reaction to her!!!!

Anonymous said...

Have been reading a few different blogs recently, not commenting in any, I did a while ago,just lurking.LOL.,that description always makes me laugh,.. before you would be classed as interested in a subject,without any real knowledge or definite opinion to add to the subject,now there is a sinister tag labelled to you!

I agree with Gina, I don't think it's a good idea to give this person any more bandwidth than has already been given.IMO she thrives on conflict and cheap shot accusations. When the theory of the day doesn't receive the necessary praise and adulation, it will be twisted and reapplied to a different senario. She will continue to do so, as long a people listen to her s**t.
And repeating those posts and discussing them will IMHO give "it" some kind of boost.

Everyone wants to find out what happened to Madeleine Mccann because they are concerned about this child and her fate,the majority of those I have spoken with, don't want to hear about fantastical theories, rumour or the ramblings of the few who repeat the ridiculous theories reported in the press in 2007.They just want credible information from either the Portuguese authorities or the British, which has never been given, I include myself in this catagory.

I have read the interviews and I have to say, the first real doubts I had/have were, when I read the interviews of the friends, to me, the statements were "stilted", to be kind. I do understand that they were under immense pressure and scutiny from not just the media and authorities but also from some blogs,in which, some of their theories have directly accused them of being involved in Madeleines disappearance. Which would obviously make you more than a bit paranoid but the life of a child or her hopeful rescue would surely overtake that feeling and make you absolutely spill your guts about every aspect of that holiday,even if it means admiting to some kind of neglect yourself.
IMO If everyone on that holiday where 100% truthful about the checks, this case could have had an investigation which had taken it in another direction.Which could have pointed towards a perpetrator.

That's not saying I think the PJ are blameless, quite the opposite, had they investigated this in the appropriate manner and prevented the ridiculous leaks from certain people in the "know",they would have a real case to investigate(and solve) and real responses from witneses when questioned, rather than their paranoid self preserved answers. It appears to be an ever decreasing circle of egos and covering tails and very little thought for a liitle girl called Madeleine Mccann.

Probably said too much now, so understand if you don't print, just getting a few thing off my chest, Sorry it's so long.

Rosiepops said...

felicity said...
Hiya Dillie

My son is currently putting a super pic of my red lored amazon on my computer for me and he will get his own thread where we can talk about our gorgeous pets.

I visited a couple last night who have two parrots and two dogs. I actually thought the alsation was going to eat me alive but boldly continued into their home with the usual entreaty, dont worry she wont hurt you. Blood pressure has just gone back down a bit now:-)

One of the parrots eyed me suspiciously but would not talk. The other one went as far away as possible and turned its back. My bird sometimes offers people this treatment!

Luv Viv x

Saturday, March 8, 2008 2:52:00 PM PST


You're right Anon every single animal had a negative reaction to her! Animals do not react in this fashion for nothing, they react because they are sensing something and the odd thing is, there are reports of animals reacting like this towards people with psychopathic tendencies.

By contrast, I do not think I have ever had a negative reaction from an animal.

I remember the photos of Viv's poor parrot, kept in squalor and the poor little thing had a live electric cable running right past it.

Rosiepops said...

Anon, we always publish, if posts are put politely. We cant all agree of everything.

One thing I would point out is that Kate was made a suspect (arguida) this gave her the right to remain silent, she was advised by her lawyer not to answer certain questions, however, when I read what those questions consisted of, most of them were unanswerable.
One of the questions Kate did not answer was asking her 'why the police did not search the apartment properly?' how is she meant to have answered this?

The posts that have been put up here tonight are from other people that want Viv exposed.

Unfortunately Viv does not shut and and go away, she hangs around like an obnoxious smell and makes rabid accusations, I believe (and I know others feel the same) that she needs exposing.

Rosiepops said...

Forgot to say, I am off to my bed now.

Goodnight Anons

Anonymous said...

Rosie, I think, I understand why Kate didn't answer those questions, that was not my point.

This shouldn't be about blogs' animosity but about Madeleine and her fate.

Gina said...

ANON 23.18 It appears we possibly share almost the same views. IMO many people are to blame for this case not being further ahead. The Mcanns should have called the police sooner, the PJ did not seal the crime scene correctly, the statements given were not as helpful as they could have been etc. Even if a parent believes the police dealing with the case are hopeless, IMO they should (arguido or not) give their full co-operation. (remember the British Police were involved too & also only had these statements to work with).
There has never been another case of this type (as far as I know) which has caused so much controversy and I believe this to have been caused by the McCanns decision to go way way OTT with their campaign. Once you put yourself,in the limelight to the extent they did, you leave yourself open to your words and actions being scrutinised. Never before have the movements, bank accounts, backgrounds, family members been so talked about in any other similar case. IMO the McCanns never seem to accept or learn that they made and are still making mistakes.
When they saw that the publicity was beginning to move from public sympathy to anger, did they back off, no. They just continued defending their own actions and made threats to sue the PJ. The priorty is finding out what ever happened to Madeleine, and threatening to sue at this stage is not the answer. Both sides need to co-operate with each other, whether they like it or not.

The blogging has now gone OTT too, so much hatred between certain people that they are now incapable of admitting they might agree with each other on one or two points. If people would just stay a little more open minded, accept that people are innocent until proven guilty and accept that they do not know for sure what happened then things just might improve.

Personally I think unless somebody who really knows something talks (tempted by a reward maybe) or there is something in the withheld police statements that is a vital clue, then the whereabout of this poor child may never be know, sadly.

Sorry Rosie about this long post by like anon, just wanted to get it off my chest

Jojam said...

Hi Gina, Rosie, Mum21,

Just looked in to see how you all are. I see the blog wars are still going strong......IMO this does nothing to support the family.

I fear that we will never know what has happened to Madeleine.

I hope you are all well

Rosiepops said...

Anon, I know what you mean and I understand it, however I do not think you understand what I mean.

This blog was formed to offer support to the McCann family and part of that support is to tackle the nonsense put out by Viv and the likes of Viv and this is what we do and this is what we will continue to do.

If the deliberate lies and unsubstantiated accusations put out by Viv and people like Tony Bennett are not counteracted, then people begin to believe them. They are guilty of disinformation.

Now I have had this from Viv for a very long time, so I know what it feels like, goodness alone knows what it feels like to be Kate and Gerry McCann, to have their daughter abducted and put up with this kind of thing on top of it all.

So this is why we do it and this is why we will continue to do it.

Why should Viv and people like her behave like this and just get away with it?

It is the same as the loutish behaviour we see on the streets and look what happens when people turn the other cheek, society breaks down, so no she is not going to get away with it.I am going to continue to argue the McCanns case because they cannot and I will also defend myself against her lies. It is fine for others to pass judgment anyway, they haven't had to put up with the lies and personal abuse all of this time.

Rosiepops said...

Hi JoJam

Nice to see you, hope you are well, very snowy here still.

Roll on spring, I love the spring, new life.

Rosie

Gina said...

Hi Jojam, Nice to hear from you again.

Rosie, I well understand why you bring attention to the comments made by Viv and will continue to do so. Some of the personal attacks she has made are outrageous. Regards her comments on the case, remember this. She is able to change her theories to suit herself but she can never change what she has said and accused of in the past. She can delete it from her blog, but she cannot delete it from our minds.

Now as Hope would say, I am now off to the Farden centre.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Having recently been watching the thread Bennett v The McCanns on the Democracy Forum, it was clear to see that after all this time, people were still continuing to believe the lies that have been posted by the likes of Mr. Bennett and his ilk.

20 months later, these people are still going strong, they have progressed to issuing a pamphlet entitled "60 reasons to suggest Madeleine wasn't abducted" and it is my understanding that a book will be following, this is without lardy boys book of fables which is already out there.

It is because of this, I will not go away, I will continue to try and expose these people for what they are. Its easy to say cut off their oxygen, I believe because Mr. Bennett went unchallenged for so long, he produced his pamphlet and had a copy specially delivered to the McCanns a week before Xmas!.

IMO, if I can help in any way expose the people that run these hate campaigns against The McCanns then its one less thing The McCanns have to deal with.

I'm really pleased the Democracy Forum allowed us the opportunity to expose Mr. Bennett and The 3A's before the thread was locked. As a result, I'm sure a lot of people will now think twice about Mr. Bennetts motives, this is because we didnt cut off their oxygen, we confronted them and allowed them to show themselves up. I'm also pleased to see Viles poster count is going down and some of her posters acknowledging what we have been saying about her for ages is right.

Rosiepops said...

Hi Tinks, (11.20)

Brilliantly put! Ignoring these people, or cutting their oxygen off which ever way it is put, doesn't work. They keep going on spreading their disinformation and because they are going unchallenged, their lies and their accusations get more outrageous all the time.

Tinks is right, we watched over on the Democracy Forum and it was fantastic to see democracy in action and so many people coming together to use the chance to challenge Tony Bennett and his ilk. It was heartwarming to see that so many people cared enough to come back and face these bullies and liars and defamers down.
Head on and I firmly believe as Tinks does, that because these people cared enough, many people started to rethink what they were saying and doing.

We have had emails from people, ex members of Viv's, who have contacted us through our forum email or sent posts here asking for them NOT to be published and we have made contact this way.

They were always reasonable people who had started off in a mild way, just feeling anger because the children were left alone. As time wore on and Viv became more extreme these normally rational, people slowly became infected with Viv's lies and venom and before they realised it, they have said they were writing things that were totally alien to them, their way of life and all the things they ever stood for in life.

This is why we are here and this is what we will continue to do.

Sometimes people cannot turn the other cheek, we have to stand up and be counted and if me producing those awful things she has said to me can help, then this is what we will do.

Mum21 said...

A new thread on the 3A's...and when I read this first post this afternoon I just could not believe what I was reading.
Just who do these people think they are?
-----------------------------------

HiDeHo
Post subject: 3A is Maddie's Voice - Pioneers for TRUTH in Investigation.
Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 2:25 pm

On Parole


Joined: Tue Dec 18, 2007 3:07 am
Posts: 1390

I believe we (3A) are 'pioneers' in internet crime investigations.

We are very unique...Nearly 6,000 members from all over the world, from all walks of life and all with just ONE goal in mind...

To find out what happened to Madeleine McCann and to seek justice for this little girl.

We have become her voice....

Nothing is too much trouble in the seemingly endless search for the details of what happened while she was on holiday with her parents in Portugal, May 2007

We will never give up..

What we are doing has never been done before.

The police have their investigation....We have ours...

Our 'results' are similar...

Every detail available has been scrutinised and held with the memory banks or computer hard drives of hundreds of people.

Nothing is ever forgotten.....Someone is always able to retrieve information or remember a discrepancy that may be crucial in the search to find the truth of what happened to little Maddie.

Our 'resources' are immense and everyone has such passion, that the 'dedication' may never have been known during any other police investigation in the world...

The results of efforts of this magnitude have never been experienced before now. This may make us 'pioneers' when we finally achieve our goal.

The day will come when we will be 'heard'....

We share the same goal as her parents.

Kate and Gerry McCann want to find out what happened to Madeleine...

3A members want to find out what happened to Madeleine....

We are Madeleine's voice and to refuse us, is to refuse justice for Madeleine.

Anonymous said...

Mum21
10 February 2009 15:48
Pioneers.....more like the Witches of Salem.
Voice for Madeleine....in what way?
I don't get the impression Madeleine was/is a vindictive child, yet their voices drip with hate. How can it be? What right do they have to proclaim they are the voice of an innocent little girl who couldn't even spell let alone say the hate dripping words they spout?
Shame on them and their hypocritical pretence of caring for the child and her justice.

Anonymous said...

Oh mum,
what do you expect from Lizzy(HiDeHo)her MSN site is no better!

Rosiepops said...

Hi Mum,

Hideho is not really up herself then? lol

Rosiepops said...

No

Gina said...

Viv said....On another place I have just found Gina making a post part of which was very sensible, I have excluded the bit where she placates the blog owner by stating the PJ, apparently, did not seal the crime scene and of course the bits about blog wars which have nothing to do with justice for Maddie.
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

Firstly Viv the blog owner will be the first to tell you I do not do a lot of placating!!! Secondly, if you want to copy my posts copy all of it and do not take bits so it reads out of context. I said many people were to blame. Thirdly, I said the PJ did not seal the crime scene CORRECTLY because they did not and you have now left yourself wide open to be given a list of things they should have done.

Re my comments on blog wars. You are correct they have nothing to do with justice for Madeleine so why do you do what you accuse others of doing and why didn't you say that I blamed both sides equally. You really are a grade A sh.t stirrer but fortunately a lot of your bloggers read this site too and can see for themselves how you twist things to suit your own agenda

Anonymous said...

I read with horror and disgust in the paper today that the mother of the octuplets in America has recieved death threats from sicko's who state the only reason she had the kids was to make money from them. What logic. To punish this woman they would kill her, and leave fourteen children without their mother.

Seems like there is a viv in every country.

Mum21 said...

Hi Gina,
I laughed out loud when I read how Viv had doctored your comment.
Her reason for doing that is blatantly obvious. That woman is more transparant than a sheet of clear glass.
As per usual she is chatting away to herself over there. It must almost be time for her daily descent on the 3A's. Wonder which hat she will be wearing this evening...her creeping to Admin one...or her stalking Tony Bennett one.

Mum21 said...

Hi Tony, What right does anyone have to say they are Madeleine's voice? None of us have that right...be we pro or anti.
What really gets to me is so many antis (like Viv) go on and on about Madeleine not being a happy child etc etc. How the hell do they know either way? We only have photos of Madeleine to go by...and I have yet to see one where she is not looking happy and smiling. In fact the Christmas video of her came across as her being a chirpy, happy chatterbox.
A child that is subject to abuse from her parents (as Viv has stated more than once Madeleine was)does not come across as being chirpy and happy.... but sullen and introvert.

Which planet do these cretons like Viv come from...it sure ain't planet earth.

Gina said...

Mum21 said...
Hi Gina,
I laughed out loud when I read how Viv had doctored your comment.
...............................

There is nothing left but to laugh at her now. Did she expect me to be flattered that she considered I said something sensible, how can a sh.t for brains persons (which I was according to her) be sensible?? Off to bed, good night all

Anonymous said...

If anybody can be bothered to look back on one of Vile's posts last week, she was welcoming back a long lost member saying there views were welcomed even if she did not agree with them.

Today that does not apply to JJ it seems, posts gone, whooosh. Sing along time, 10 green bottles sitting on the wall........

dylan said...
Viv,

Pardon me for asking, but where have JJ's posts gone? As i read it, she had just said that she wanted to make a relevant comment once she had digested what was said in the thread properly, but maybe I missed something?

xx

Wednesday, 11 February 2009 18:36:00 o'clock GMT


viv said...
Sorry Dyl but maybe you are, nine posts on this thread (!) and all of them divisive and irrelevant.

Wait for it to appear on Rosie's blog!

Anonymous said...

Dylan, who are thee to question thigh mighty highness, thou are but a mere mortal, lol.

Be careful Dyl or next time, it could be you! Believe me, it would be the biggest favour she could do you!

Anonymous said...

She who must be obeyed is now accusing some on the 3A's of making things up, they must have been taking lesson from her

Gina said...

Sorry pressed the wrong button, that anon post, she who must be obeyed was me

Rosiepops said...

Stands to reason, the only poster on there with any sense or gumption is JJ, Viv doesn't want this poster around obviously.

Now stay on message the lot of you over there, you know you must never disobey Viv or it's;

'Hey ho, heave ho, it's off Viv's blog you go!'

This is just the kind of narcissistic behaviour from Viv that I have been pointing out.

Rosiepops said...

Are these people on drugs or something?
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Fox Post subject: Re: could madeleine have been taken by one of the tapas 7Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:40 pm

First Time Offender


Joined: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:09 pm
Posts: 536 isis wrote:
Who better to take a sleeping child from her bed than someone known to her, no fuss , no crying if she trusted this person. No evidence of an intrusion or break in , no dna there that could not easily be explained away.


Not to mention missing toothbrushes and hairbrushes which are a normal item to have on holiday but were not available with Maddies DNA......hardly plausible.

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Where do you get this crap from bubble bonce?

Now how long ago were the antis trying to tell us that there was masses of Madeleine's hair found in the boot, along with other incriminating DNA?

Make your minds up, you cannot have it all ways.

By the way Gerry provided a control sample of Madeleine's DNA. so the FSS could carry out extensive tests, it was her saliva from her pillow.

Sorry if we spoiled your unsubstantiated accusatory fun!

Unknown said...

Hello, her High and Mightiness here..

"Gerry provided a control sample"

Thanks for that Rosie, I needed a really good laugh xxxxxxxxx

Gina said...

Viv now has a locked disagreements section. Her way of letting them have their say without fear of loosing anymore posters. I call it brainwashing behind closed doors.
Why is she so afraid to let other people's opinions on her site. If she had allowed it sooner maybe she would have taken time to think long ago before making accusations which she is now back peddling on having read witness statements.

Gina said...

viv said...
Will have another look tomorrow to try and find where this stuff is coming from:

...................................
She should have tried to find out where it was coming from BEFORE posting it on her blog.

Rosiepops said...

Morning,

That's it Viv, take part of a sentence and quote it out of context, to make it say what you want it to say, you get more like Tony Bennett every day.

You know who Tony Bennett is don't you? He is that chap you are vehemently jealous of, who has done what you wanted to d and is now getting all the attention and what are you getting?
Oops nothing except derision, wherever you go, derision, derision, derision.

Viv no one takes you seriously anymore, they think you are a narcissistic drunken old hag (they are right!)

Amazing isn't it? Your posters cannot post on your blog, they are not allowed to air their opinions, openly and honestly, if they do you remove their posts and/or kick them off.

Yet here you are coming to our blog and your comments get published, if your remaining posters came here, even though we disagree with them, their comments would still get published.

Spot the difference!

You may have given them a locked thread to air their differences, but they still will not post them, because they are scared of you and what you will do and say.

You can dish out your lies and vitriol, but you are too scared to allow people the right of reply, you even deny the right of reply to your own posters!

The longer you go on, the more people are seeing you for what you really are.

A Fantasist..A Narcissist..A Liar

(oh and you are NOT and NEVER were a solicitor/lawyer)

But you were and still are a liar!

Gina said...

Rosie said.....You can dish out your lies and vitriol, but you are too scared to allow people the right of reply, you even deny the right of reply to your own posters!..

........

Absolutely spot on Rosie. You are also right in saying they will not dare reply honestly to JJ's post. I can confirm that all my views, even though you do not agree with them have been posted here.

Viv said you gave her a good laugh, well you are not giving her as many as she is giving me. She is in a hole, people offered her a ladder or a shovel, she chose the shovel and now digs herself deeper and deeper. Keep digging Viv, when it starts getting really hot you will know you have arrived where you belong.

Rori Hegarty said...

Not to mention missing toothbrushes and hairbrushes which are a normal item to have on holiday but were not available with Maddies DNA......hardly plausible. Not part of my post, it was in reply to the first part you posted.

Rori Hegarty said...

Fox
Post subject: Re: could madeleine have been taken by one of the tapas 7
PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:40 pm
First Time Offender
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:09 pm
Posts: 536
isis wrote:
Who better to take a sleeping child from her bed than someone known to her, no fuss , no crying if she trusted this person. No evidence of an intrusion or break in , no dna there that could not easily be explained away.


Not to mention missing toothbrushes and hairbrushes which are a normal item to have on holiday but were not available with Maddies DNA......hardly plausible.

Gina said...

BTW Rosie, the Spot on Rosie bit in my last post was only be placating you again :-)

Mum21 said...

viv said...
Hello, her High and Mightiness here..

"Gerry provided a control sample"

Thanks for that Rosie, I needed a really good laugh xxxxxxxxx

12 February 2009 00:06
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Viv, I needed a good laugh too....and you sure have given me one this morning. I have laughed so much I have belly ache.

You have spent almost all night posting comment after comment (27 in total) to yourself. Only somebody obsessed could or would do that. What amused me the most was the shouting every so often.
Were you hoping this would wake your few remaining posters up?
I have met some stupid people in my time...but my God none of them come anywhere near as stupid as you are proving yourself to be now.
Keep at it....I am enjoying the laugh.

Anonymous said...
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Gina said...

Rosie, I was just thinking why it is I do not feel Viv was ever a solicitor or if she was she was a useless one. It has just occurred to me that she is not quick witted enough to respond to anything thrown at her that is valid. I would loved to have seen her in court, what the hell would she have said if the opposition shot her down in flames, something like " what you are saying is invalid as you have "sh.t for brains"

Now I am wondering what the hell I am doing thinking about Viv anyway.!!!!!

Rosiepops said...

Gina said...
BTW Rosie, the Spot on Rosie bit in my last post was only be placating you again :-)

12 February 2009 09:42
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LOL

Have you spotted the irony of the 'hidden thread' Gina?

No one can find it, but equally not one of them can now say they have not been given the chance to post their 'true' opinions!

However, why is Viv trying to make her posters hide them
their 'true' opinions?

I thought the whole reason for having a blog was to allow people to speak about what they think and feel about the particular subject they were debating?

Gina said...

Rosie, I too thought the purpose of a blog was for people to share and air their views, but Viv is different, I will give her that

Rosiepops said...

Message For Viv

I have Google as my home page, I notice this morning that they have pictures of wild birds. So VivI was wondering, "do you think that Google only put that picture of wildlife up because they knew you were talking about it?"

Mum21 said...

Thanks ST, I took a look. I don't know how you feel about making that a new thread on here.
I welcome your thoughts on the matter.

Kind Regards,
Mum21

Gina said...

Hi ST, well done for capturing that message. I was wondering what the point of Viv leaving the disagreement section on her blog, when she is deleting the posts that were one it.

Anonymous said...

Hi Mum21,
I have no problem at all. If you want to make a thread you are very welcome.

Gina said...

So Viv, you now think JJ is also Jay Jay. Well I sincerely hope you are right because if you are it has taken you long enough to reach the conclusion you have reached now (albeit the wrong one again). The reasons you give your posters for getting rid of people always infers something, you never admit that it was because they dared to answer you back and have valid points to make

BTW the disagreement section has now gone, no suprise there!!

Mum21 said...

Hi Gina, I have now started a new thread on this subject if you are interested. It is above this one.

By the way you have mail.

Mum21

Rosiepops said...

Hi JJ

Just in case there is any shadow of a doubt.

JJ is not JayJay.

I, 'Me' Rosie AKA Rosiepos is JayJay.

I apologise unreservedly to JJ, I really did not intend this to happen. When I joined the 3A's to make that one post, I joined under a different name because I thought their system may kick me out if I tried to join under Rosiepops.

I just the first thing down that came into my head and actually Jay is the name of a bird and I like wildlife, so this is why I used it. I really did not think of JJ, if I had I would have chosen a different ID.

It was never my intention not to reveal my true ID and I signed the posts Rosiepops Rosie and then came back and put he same posts here under my ID to make sure there was no confusion.

Sorry JJ, I really did not mean to cause this problem for you.

Viv for goodness sakes get a grip and if you are going to keep accusing me of being someone else, please, for goodness sake choose one ID and stick to it.

Just the past 7 days, according to you I have been all of these people:

BonnyBraes.
Michael Wright
Jon Corner
Gerry McCann
Phil McCann
Kate's Aunt

In the past you have accused me of being many other people too.

But now JJ? Why? Just because someone has had the guts to stand up to you, you automatically think it is me?

Why don't you show a little more faith and loyalty to your posters? Many of which have stuck by you through thick and thin, is this how you repay their loyalty to you?

I am not JJ and JJ is not me, check the IP you foolish woman ans stop making an ass of yourself.

Rosiepops said...

I am also going to post my last post on the new thread that has now been started.

Anonymous said...

Rosiepops.
I found the Green Blog; I read the Green Blog and I now have to shower with Holy water.

With all due respect Rosiepops; you could have made a 'Danger Do Not Enter' sign here on your blog warning us mere mortals against viewing the Green Blog.

Have you no care for your fellow humans?

Mum21 said...

Hi Gina,

You have mail again.

Rosiepops said...

lol Tony!

By the way we are now on the new thread and you may like to take a look at the screenshot on this blog too!

Anonymous said...

Then your software isnt working because the email hasnt been doctored.I can always send forumotion the original.Not a problem.
Not a spoof Stinks.FACT.Get over the fact that Rosie lied to you.You too Mum21.You know full well the email isnt doctored.Stop pretending you know what you are talking about.

Anonymous said...

I see the gormless geek has has started again.
Plenty more where that came from Geek.
Nice to be back on your blog fatty lolololololol. NOT!!!

viv said...
I know I really should not laugh but he is so funny, P/Pops has dredged this one up from the DE days (yea I know, what a sad stalker!) to express outrage and disgust, I think it is well placed and hilarious satire (love the bigs sorries):

CALL CENTRE COMES TO MIND
14.11.07, 9:11pm
nice one docmac lol

sorry for saying this, you all might not like this but imagine its christmas eve and gerrys sitting with the twins on his knee "now children you know who,s coming tonight?" no say the twins "santa "says gerry" now if you got to bed and do,nt make a noise and don,t wake up you know what " the twins" aye ya f_ckin pis_pot we,ll end up like maddie ya C_nt"


sorry SORRY SORRY.
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