Brenda Ryan opens a new forum, so what? You may ask and normally, this would be my response, but having read her opening post, I must admit to it setting off a cacophony of alarm bells in my head - judge for yourselves.
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"Bren
Post subject: Get yourselfs back to PDL now and end this.
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 4:23 pm
One thing that keeps amazing me with Kate and Gerry is their continuation with the abduction scenario. Well let’s look at the abduction scenario deeply, like many of us have done over the last two and a half years. Your inconsistencies, your discrepancies Kate and Gerry, your abduction theory is therefore probably implaussible. Even Donal MacIntyre says that it had to be done in under 180 -240 seconds. Yes seems a big number doesn’t it, but that is only 4 minutes max.
I tell you what let us all try, lay something on our settees 90cm in length and the weight of a child at that age, then proceed outside. Once we have done that we then have to search another room to make sure the children were not sleeping in there, go to the window, open it up, then go back and pick up the child, climb through the window (remembering not to leave any DNA Trace) and then get to the top of the road for someone to spot us.
To snatch a child off the street yes it is plausible, drive up, get out snatch the child and then drive off. But to do this in an apartment and in the way that they declare is just not plausible, in my honest opinion.
But whether there were jemmied shutters or not, whether they had an accomplice is not relevant, what is relevant is your actions with regards to an abduction possibly by a unknown paedophile.
Do you honestly think he is treating your daughter like a princess? Do you think he is being nice to her? Because what he is doing to her is too intolerable to think about. That poor child is being violated in such ways that even animals do not treat each other like it. Your daughter is being used as an object for someone’s sexual gratification. She is probably traumatised and probably in pain, so how do you think she feels, if the so called abductor is showing pictures of you globetrotting, smiling and laughing? Do you not think he is probably telling her that he loves her now and that you look so happy without her?
So Kate and Gerry, you say she has been abducted, then we will go with that the day you and your friends return to Portugal for a reconstruction, you Kate answer the questions and you both demand to know why the case is shelved in Portugal and demand that it be re-opened. But up until that time we will continue to doubt you, because many of us are parents just like you, and we know damn well that we would never act like you are acting.
All the money in the world will not bring your daughter back. It has been proven with the £2.6 million reward. Nobody came up to claim it, nobody gave you any information in order to claim the reward. And why do you think that is? Because there's probably no information about an abduction to be given. Of course continue in your fruitless search. The search you are doing away from Praia Da Luz, you remember that place don’t you? Well just incase you have forgotten, it is the area where your Detectives say that she could be being held. One more thing, during your recent trip to Portugal Kate who stopped you banging on all the doors in and around Praia Da Luz in hope of finding your daughter? Because I know I would have been banging on doors if detectives had told me she could be within 10 miles of Praia Da Luz.
So instead of threatening to sue us, threatening this that and the other, why not show us that you really are innocent and just do a few simple things. After all, if you are innocent, would it not be best to clear your names once and for all and then your doubters might even start thinking that she could have been abducted. Then the search can commence. But until you go back to Praia Da Luz, knock on the door of Portimao Police Station and answer the questions, do the reconstruction, get rid of your libel lawyers and henchmen, there will be people like myself that do not believe a word that comes out of your mouths.
You both failed miserably that night as parents, by leaving her alone with her younger brother and sister, now is the time to make amends and put things right. Don’t do it for your sakes, do it for Madeleine, because she is the victim in all of this, not you. And remember there could have been two more victims in this, if you are to be believed and that is the twins. What stopped an abductor taking them?"
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This post is alarming, it is spiteful, nasty, vile and unpleasant and well, it is also just plain thick and unnecessarily erudite. Much like the poster herself. Ryan's comments are also very revealing!
To be honest I have never paid much attention to the gossip sweeping the net about Brenda Ryan's former occupation, I am not that bothered by people who make a living out of the oldest profession in the world, but then I discover that Ryan's partner has been in trouble for paying underage girls for sex and that taken in context with Ryan's post is alarming to say the very least, and perhaps it is the police that need to look closely at her comments?
Brenda Ryan begins her comments with an opening salvo of being amazed that the McCanns have kept up the "scenario" as Ryan puts it, of course it doesn't seem to have resonated with Ryan that they have kept this up because Madeleine was abducted, and they are never going to rest and never going to give up looking for their daughter until they find her. In fact, the McCanns are actually displaying typical and classical behaviour, Madeleine is their daughter and she was abducted, what would you expect them to do, come home from holiday and just say "oh well, never mind" and just get on with their lives minus their eldest child? No of course not, God forbid this ever happened to any of us, but we would do exactly the same as them and they are doing what they promised to do "leave no stone unturned".
Not good enough for the alleged ex prostitute Brenda Ryan, she now wants us all to look at the abduction scenario "deeply", so deeply, if you cut her own opinions which she shoves down the readers throats, her examination of the "abduction scenario deeply" last for approximately nine lines! Hmm yes. The rest if her comments are her ordering the McCanns about.
She also quotes Donal McIntyre's version of the timelines as if they are gospel, really it would be funny if the overall impression of Ryan's comments were not sick, dark and vile.
Ryan arrogantly orders the McCanns to "get yourselfs back to PDL", who the hell does this woman think she is? Obviously she thinks she knows more the Portuguese judiciary and attorney general. She warbles on about them answering the questions, the fact that they had their Portuguese lawyers present advising them not to answer the questions goes completely over her thick head.
The fact that the questions were never devised to discover where Madeleine may be and who took her, they were specifically devised to try and entrap Kate McCann, also goes completely over her head. However, I don't want to talk about this, it has all been said so many times before and Ryan knows it.
Ryan talks at the reader, shoves her own opinions down the readers throats and displays an alarming level of cruelty mixed with plain ignorance and arrogance, this much is plain, but there is also something far more sinister at work in her comments, something vile, sick and twisted and depraved.
I want to ask what kind of "woman" can write something as sick as the following taken from Ryan's post;
"But whether there were jemmied shutters or not, whether they had an accomplice is not relevant, what is relevant is your actions with regards to an abduction possibly by a unknown paedophile.Do you honestly think he is treating your daughter like a princess?
Do you think he is being nice to her? Because what he is doing to her is too intolerable to think about. That poor child is being violated in such ways that even animals do not treat each other like it. Your daughter is being used as an object for someone’s sexual gratification. She is probably traumatised and probably in pain, so how do you think she feels, if the so called abductor is showing pictures of you globetrotting, smiling and laughing? Do you not think he is probably telling her that he loves her now and that you look so happy without her?"
What kind of woman can even think about writing something so vicious, vile and sick as the above? She has addressed this to two people whose daughter has been abducted and she is taunting them with what could be happening to their child, only Ryan writes it like it is actually happening! Read it and ask yourself what kind of woman would write something like this? A paedophile perhaps?
Ryan goes on about the McCanns going to PDL and answering the questions and jumping through various hoops etc and then and only then can we begin looking for this child, so by Brenda Ryan's own sick and twisted admissions, Madeleine is suffering but she can just go on suffering until her parents have been vilified some more, this time in Portugal. Because what matters more to Brenda Ryan is hurting Kate and Gerry McCann as much as is possible.
Brenda Ryan is not only coming across as a sick and twisted female paedophile she is coming across as a psychopathic sick and twisted female paedophile. It is a also alarming because of the trouble her husband was in and why? Could this be connected and behind why Ryan would write such comments?
Who would have thought Vanessa George, Angela Allen and Colin Blanchard, would set up such a vile exchange of vile material between them on the internet? They too discussed ways that a child could be snatched from the street, just as Brenda Ryan did in her post.
Brenda Ryan's sick, vile and twisted comments are in my opinion made by a paedophile, who wrote them? Her or her partner?
Brenda Ryan's comments have echoes of the paedophile ring of George, Allen and Blanchard and quite honestly, how do we know this is not what the woman is really up to? What she wrote is sick and twisted beyond belief, how could Ryan think it, let alone write it?
And Ryan has tried hard to make everyone think that Madeleine was NOT abducted, so how does she explain seemingly to know what Madeleine 'IS' being used for? This points to abduction, so why is she contradicting herself?
Perhaps the police should call on and question Brenda Ryan and her partner.
I honestly could not believe what I was reading when I first read this and Brenda Ryan, need have no fear, her little offering has got the attention that Ryan craves, it is now lodged with those who know how to deal with it. I am also sure Carter-Ruck was very interested to read Ryan's libellous and defamatory content and I for one think that Brenda Ryan has gone way too far with this post.
This post is Ryans "Rothley leaflets".
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For those that may doubt Brenda Ryan is a paedophile, fair enough, but if you had known Vanessa George and Angela Allen, would you have pegged them for being paedophiles?
I would have doubted it of Ryan too, but that was before I read her comments, which I found personally distasteful, sick and twisted beyond belief, so Ryan herself has instilled the doubts into my mind.
I hope that she gets prosecuted for writing that post it was sick, and she is sick and I make no apologies for my comments, becausze brenda Ryan's post "deeply" alarmed me!
Apart fromt the pure spite and bile in that post, is the worrying thought that is Madeleine was held in danger and pain, that Bren, through her actions has directly contributed to her being kept that way.
Bren, you are either part of the solution, or you are part of the problem, and you are definitely part of the problem. Through your actions of trying to convince the world that Madeleine is dead, and her parents somehow involved, you have harmed the search for her.
How could you live with yourself, if you were to find out that Madeleine is alive, and has been kept hidden and in danger all this time, like Jaycee Duggard? How could you live with yourself knowing you helped keep her there and caused so much pain and suffering to her parents? How do you live with yourself knowing you have abandoned a little girl to her fate?
Because one thing for sure, you do not know that Madeleine is dead. And to act as though you do could be causing her great harm.
I agree with you Diane. I have read some bitter and twisted comments from some during these past two and half years, but Ryan's is right up there with the worse of them.
Her comments alarmed me, especially coming on the back of the George, Allen and Blanchard convictions and this week there has been another arrest and charge of another woman;
"Tracy Lyons, 39, was arrested as part of the inquiry which led to the conviction of Plymouth nursery paedophile Vanessa George and fellow abusers Colin Blanchard and Angela Allen.
Lyons, who is seven months pregnant, is charged with sexually assaulting a young child, taking a photograph of the attack and distributing it."
All this taking place on the internet in Facebook, can you believe it? So how can you not make the connections to the forums run by Brenda Ryan and co? There has to be something more than they are saying, they appear to compete with each other over how graphic and disgusting they can make their posts.
I honestly think it is time for the police to investigate these forums properly, words cannot express how repulsed I felt when I read Ryan's comments. I have left commenting until now because I was so angry, so very very angry, that I could not trust myself to comment.
I would not trust Brenda Ryan, Laffin Assasin, Photon, JJP, Humptybumpt et al anywhere near any child of mine, or in fact anywhere near any child point blank, I am seriously worried about any child that has contact with these people. You have to be be sick to make comments like that in my opinion.
Ryan says,
Do you think he is being nice to her? Because what he is doing to her is too intolerable to think about. That poor child is being violated in such ways that even animals do not treat each other like it. Your daughter is being used as an object for someone’s sexual gratification. She is probably traumatised and probably in pain, so how do you think she feels, if the so called abductor is showing pictures of you globetrotting, smiling and laughing? Do you not think he is probably telling her that he loves her now and that you look so happy without her?"
Ryan you are one sick bitch and you need investigating. You seem to know what is happening with Madeleine. You also say HE! I can see why you get on so well with the Vile one, you dirty, filthy perverts. Thats all you are, do your neighbours know they have a sicko in the street?
I think you are right Rosie, bren is harbouring a far, far darker secret than we first thought. I admit, when I first read this post, my initial reaction was 'Look at me, look at me, don't look at bennett, don't look at butler, look at me, I'm much more important.' But now I see it, all to frighteningly clearly. I now think she is a danger, not only to Madeleine, but to any child within her sphere of contact.
I agree with Rosiepops too. Brenda Ryan's post is way too much, it is sick and I am still having difficulty understanding how she could not see how offensive that was to normal decent human beings. How could Brenda Ryan think those comments were OK to publish? Is it because she does not see anything wrong in her lurid words? If she doesn't see anything wrong with them, well make you own minds up!
Bren said:-
"Because what he is doing to her is too intolerable to think about".
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Not too intolerable for you though Bren, was it! You seem to have given it quite a bit of thought - Sicko!
Poor Bren - she has really lost the plot. The McCanns have NOTHING to prove to anyone - least of all to such an imbecile as Bren.
I too hope she gets prosecuting for writing such a disturbed post.
This is a very concerning and serious matter indeed. Brenda Ryan´s post does contradict herself on a very worrying level. I agree that the whole post is blatant defamation but even more it is written with deliberate and sickening intent i.e. to arouse terror and horror in Kate and Gerry by indulging in references to the debased practices of paedophilia. I had the distinct impression that the writer of this disgusting letter was obtaining a degree of vicarious pleasure from the publishing of it. This is evident proof indeed of why this person fought so hard to revive such a cesspit as the 3A´s site. The contributors have a deep and profound need in their psychopathic personalities to band together for mutual support and to indulge in such a practice.
thankyou Rosie for passing it on the appropriate authorities.´
I am glad this has been reported, but perhaps because of the gravity of the post, we should each of us take responsibility and report this post to the police? I suggest the Leicestershire police, if they need to make further enquiries they can, I understand they will probably already have Brenda Ryan's home address and phone number? If they do not, then they can easily trace her via her sick forum.
Brenda Ryan you are a sick disgrace and a danger to children, you really do need investigating and urgently!
After reading Brendas post thhe part that stuck out most as alarming is where she dwells on paedophilia. She is basically saying that she does not believe abduction is possible at all. But then goes on to a lucidity of considering abduction by paedophiles.
Recently before I was banned from MM a poster by the name of Alchemist started a thread engaging a discussion on what Madeleine may have had to endure if abducted. Her condition for the topic is to consider Madeleine is not with a family and possibly with Paedophiles.
Whatever, I think Brenda has recognised the possibility of being martyred by sicko's for re starting 3A's and coming to the front. Go for it Bren as you will probably get your wish and I hope you are prepared for regrets.
I have reported Ms Ryan to Maidstone police, as I too found her comments scary.
This has gone far beyond any sort of game now. It's time these people, including the twisted bren, were removed from decent society, before they harm someone.
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