Friday 21 March 2008

EX PJ Officer Author of Book About Madeleine McCann

Paulo Cristovao, who is facing trial over torture allegations, describes how missing Maddie did not survive May 3, 2007 – the night she vanished.

His book, The Star Of Madeleine, is based on the real cop investigation.It stops short of saying who is responsible, but drops clues.He says the McCanns decided she was kidnapped without considering she may have walked out of their holiday flat.Retired inspector Cristovao mysteriously claims two of the couple’s holiday pals – the so-called Tapas Seven – are “fundamental” to discovering the truth about Maddie, four.In the preface he writes:

“For legal reasons I, as the author, cannot tell you what the truth, the reality of this case, is. I can, however, assure you that you can find it here, in the lines of this book.”

The novel ends with two fictional coppers gazing out at the Atlantic Ocean following a huge land search.

Cristovao and four other cops stand trial later this year over the case of another missing girl. He is accused of torturing her mum into a false confession of murder.

Last night Kate and Gerry's spokesman said:

“It’s a great shame that people still want to make money out of Madeleine’s situation.”

DisgustingA friend of the couple, from Rothley, Leics, added: “This man is a suspect himself, having been accused of beating up a woman to make her confess to killing her daughter.“He is hardly a reliable source. To bring out a book about Madeleine is just disgusting.”Cristovao, whose book was launched yesterday, angered the couple last year by claiming they should have been arrested for leaving their kids alone at Praia da Luz.

The Sun


What do you think of the fact that while Portugal effectively gags two people who have not been charged with any crime, with archaic Secrecy Laws, yet allows and Ex Police Chief to write and publish a lot of spurious unsubstantiated nonsense WHILE HIMSELF AN ARGUIDO, WAITING TO FACE TRIAL OVER ALLEGATIONS THAT HE PLAYED A PART IN THE TORTURE OF ANOTHER PARENT OF ANOTHER MISSING CHILD?


  • Do you think this is right?
  • Do you think this is just?
  • Do you think this is the way a country should behave?
  • Do you think Portugal should be part of the EU while allowing this kind of behaviour
  • How much longer is this going to go on for?
  • How much longer can Portugal get away with treating people so appalling in what appears to be an extreme abuse of their human rights?
  • Do you think it is time that Portugal held a full and OPEN inquiry into this bungled investigation?
  • Do you think the UK government shold now take a pro-active stance and force Portugal to act over this appalling set of circumstances?
  • What do you think? Have Your Say .

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chinadoll said...

Janegt,

Just say typo, for short lol

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Hiya everyone

Miracle of miracles - the Internet is actually working.

Tinks - you feeling better now?

chinadoll said...

Hi there Sassyp and Tinks.

Hope you are enjoying Easter.

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Hiya China

It's OK thanks. We have visitors from tomorrow till Monday.

Hope you are having a good un!

chinadoll said...

Janegt,

Just to expand on my last comment to you.

I am saddened that the Portuguese people have already been ridiculed throughout the world over the handling of this case - that is not their fault.

From what I hear, it is a beautiful country, with much culture and heritage.

Although it is in the early stages of a democracy, it still has much to learn and we are seeing how much of an uphill struggle the country is facing, through the handling of this case.

I agree, that political pressure should be applied to encourage the country to modernise, but not to the detriment of the people.

Hope that makes sense.

chinadoll said...

Thanks Sassyp,

I and mine, have had a lovely start to Easter.

Anonymous said...

'Snow not lying' how do you know Jane? Did it swear on the bible?


For those who may be forgiven for believing that I am a drunk, nothing is further from the truth. I drink only occasionally, so relatively speaking it only takes 3 or 4 (bottles!!!!) drinks to give me a hangover.

archer said...

Hiya all

Are we all staying in tonight seeing as its Good Friday? Rosie -is that ok?

We have just had a fierce hailstorm and its a bit slippery outside.

I hope you have had a good day.

Of course,special thoughts go to Kate,Gerry and all the family as they face this Eastertime without Madeleine.

chinadoll said...

Hey HelenM,

You do not have to explain yourself to anyone.

Glad you enjoyed yourself and let your hair down.

Anonymous said...

HELEN

we know that.. I am just teasing you about chilli being the new alka seltzer and filling hot water bottle with iced water and putting it on your head........ ;o))))


snow not 'lying' he he he

I haven't seen forecast for tomorrow yet will have to look.

Anonymous said...

archer

like the Easter Bunny avatar.

Hope kids don't pick up the tail thinking it's a snowball and hurl it at their chum...... ;o))

calcite51 said...

Rosie, can we expect you to disappear on around April 6 if the PJ's are showing up on April 7, 2008, of course?

Do you think the other blogs will notice you're not on and comment about your whereabouts?

Will we be having a repeat of the other day? When it was announced the DE and other papers would be issuing a front page apology to Kate and Gerry?

Anonymous said...

CHINADOLL

HOW WAS YOUR CHILLI CON CARNE THEN???

GOOD I HOPE? you'd need it to keep you warm wouldn't you....I assume you have high winds and cold there too? that's the thing about Easter you never know what to expect...

archer said...

Hi Jane

I've got a 'Special one' hidden away in case Mum comes on.

She will be so proud of me!!!!

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Chinadoll

It is always a shame when the population of a country is judged by its government or governmental institutions. I know it is the people who, unless it is a dictatorship, choose the government, but frankly is there any political party that does a good job? It's generally a case of choosing the lesser of the evils, not a party you think would actually be good!

Rosiepops said...

Well I hope this avatar suits you all and I trust some smar Alec is not going to say that they have hay fever it has to go! lol

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Hiya Archer

Where I used to live (mountain farm in Eastern Tyrol) if you go out people yell at you! There was someone who got involved in a car accident on Good Friday a couple of years ago and all the people on the various mountain farms said was, "He shouldn't have been out on Good Friday anyway!".

Anonymous said...

ROSIEPOPS

that's pretty a water lily...???

The last one made me a bit dizzy too, like kids lollipos if you know the one I mean - only lollipops were brightly coloured?

SeaWitch said...

Rosie,

I have hayfever.

Good evening, all!

Rosiepops said...

Calcite

funbny you should say that, i do actually have something planned for the 7th oath and 9th of April!

Sorry China I just dosed off!

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Tinkz

You still around? I'm getting paranoid here! As soon as I turn up, you go!!!

Rosiepops said...

SeaWitch Go sneeze!

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Hiya Rosie

How ya doin'?

SeaWitch said...

Rosie,

That'll be SneezeWitch to you...!

Tinkerbell43 said...

Hiya Sass,

Dont laugh, I didnt realise the page had turned. I was still sitting on the other one wondering where everyone had gone. The amount of times I do that!

Rosiepops said...

Sass

tinks was here but she saw your avatar and I heard the door!

Actually I haven't heard from her since earlier when she was standing around here with nothing on, she was off to her wardrobe where she has locked me out and now I think she has locked herself in.

chinadoll said...

Sassyp,

Our Country has a proud history, but has made many mistakes along the way. IMO, Portugal is a fledgling in terms of a true democracy.

They will catch up (hopefully) but only by learning by their mistakes and IMO, this is a mistake they should and will, remember and ensure it is not repeated.

calcite51 said...

Computer shift is over for me. That's okay - have to start cooking dinner - fish tonight for us.

Have a good evening everyone.

Anonymous said...

sneeze witch ha ha ha SEAWITCH

how are you?
I read your post YOU MADE early this morning....brilliant. I agreed with every word.

Now there's a first.

sneeze away.

Rosiepops said...

Tinky Tonks

dont lie, you know you were locked in the wardrobe!

archer said...

Hello Sassy

Really? I live about 50metres away from a pub, ten metres from a small 'open all hours'corner shop and am on a direct pedestrian route to the clubs....people are up and down all hours of the night and day. I would wonder what was going on if it was so quiet LOL.

Anonymous said...

TINKS

Oh dear not again, party on and you are in wrong house.....

Hope you are feeling a lot better. Keep away from Seawitch she is sneezing......

Rosiepops said...

Calcite

See you later enjoy your dinner!

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Tinkz

So you thought we'd all abandoned you! It's quite a challenge for you being on this blog, isn't it!!!
ROFLMAO!!!

chinadoll said...

Goodnight Calcite,

We had fish for breakfast - smoked haddock and poached eggs. Enjoy your supper.

SeaWitch said...

Jane,

Thank you. Even I have moments of lucidity!

Sometimes, I have noticed, even you do...!

Are you having a great Easter so far? I have been drinking wine with my sister and may not make much sense (shhh. Don't tell the antis. They are sooooo disapproving about that sort of thing!)

I might have to go onto the Horlicks now, though.

Hic! ;-*

Rosiepops said...

Seaflitch do you like ham?

chinadoll said...

Hi there Seawitch,

Pleased to hear that you have let your hair down with your sister.

Good for you.

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Archer

It's really extreme there! I have seen people in their twenties, who are doing jobs that their parents would never have considered (e.g. a man looking after a handicapped child - so not traditional in that sense) completely losing their rag with teenagers who managed to somehow get out on Good Friday!

Anonymous said...

SEAWITCH

only today and Monday off, but yes, good, even if weather is not.

The Candy Floss blog really sucks said...

Chinadoll

Every country makes mistakes - no country is perfect. The difference is that some countries admit to that and others don't! Look at the posts that come from some Portuguese posters - they try and rubbish Britain. I don't know anyone who says that Britain doesn't have problems - they would be laughed at if they did - but by saying, for example, someone was kidnapped in Britain doesn't change the fact that Madeleine is still missing in Portugal!

That "argument" thrown about so often by Claudia-that-vicious-moron and Arsabliar used to crack me up. How totally illogical!

Someone says "your country is worse than mine" doesn't mean the one that is less bad is actually good! It still makes it bad!!!

It's sounding confused, but you know what I mean - I agree with what you wrote!

SeaWitch said...

Rosie,

Are you calling me a Pig?! Or a halibut?!

LOL. Yes, I like ham, are you cooking? Let's have it with Eggs Benedict, 'cos China's made me hungry.

archer said...

Sass

We have heard some wonderful stories about your country from a student in Vienna. She stayed with us on an exchange visit last year, and we have kept in contact. My daughter loved it when she went over there, her host was the students Grandmother. I well understand you!

Tinkerbell43 said...

Sass,

I'm on your level but then I'm usually in a confused state!

Anonymous said...

SEAWITCH

Chinadoll always makes me hungry too. Oh dear.

SASS I agree. the stance of my country can do no wrong is stupid and shortsighted in the extreme. We know our country has faults, we admit them, open them up, criticise and analyse. their arguments used to drive me nuts and they kept repeating them almost as much as 4567.999....AAAAARRRRRGGGGGGGHHHH

I don't get the Ham reference - is Rosiepops cooking ham for Easter???? I am baffled, not for the first time you yell, no .....accepted. ;o(((

what's the ham??????

Mum21 said...

Good Evening Ladies,
Nice to be with you all again.

Rosie,
You have mail.

SeaWitch said...

Jane,

Me too, so lets make the most of it!

Sass, good post, I know exactly what you mean and agree.

Where's that Melbel? She thinks she's just an ordinary gran, but I think she's Supergran!

China, hiya! Learning from our mistakes is a healthy part of growing, which begins with the individual and ends with the planet.

So hard to do, though, sometimes.

Anonymous said...

MUM21

thought you had flown up to sky hanging on to dog lead....like mary poppins...

got my knitted balaclava with eye holes finished off for me yet?? It's needed this weather for sure.

Mum21 said...

Jane,
Not finished it yet...been busy making something else for Easter.

archer said...

Hi Mum

Look what I did ??? lol

Clever huh....

chinadoll said...

Yes Sassyp,

I know where you are coming from.

In my opinion, the Portuguese posters that we are familiar with, are not representative of their country.

They are representative of their pj.

I learnt a lesson from one particular Portuguese poster, who was honest through and through and I think you know who I am talking about.

As for the attitude of others, we all know, that attack is the easiest form of defence.

And that speaks volumes.

However, nationalism, is a strong force, something, I believe, we could do with rediscovering.

Going back to Portugal....if the institutions are corrupt, fighting same is an uphill battle - which will not be won overnight.

Mum21 said...

You are clever Archer...well done.

Mum21 said...

Seawitch,
You seem to have a lot of eggs in your basket.
Are they all for You?

SeaWitch said...

Mum,

No, they're the PJs eggs, all in one basket......

Actually, there's enough for everyone, so help yourself!

Mum21 said...

Thank you Seawitch,
I will have a red one.

Hope the PJ won't mind.

Mum21 said...

Oh noooooooooo Jane,
I have dropped another few stitches.
Now you have holes in your scarf for your eyes....and your mouth.

Hope that's ok.

Anonymous said...

MUM21

That's fine eyes AND mouth. couldn't be better.

Mum21 said...

Jane,
Where is everybody?

Have I frightened them all away?

Anonymous said...

don't know MUM21......maybe they have fallen asleep again!!!! tinks might be on wrong page, again!!!!!

Oh dear......what did we say???????????

chinadoll said...

Hi Mum21,

Hope you're still working on my parachute lol

Mum21 said...

Perhaps I should prod them in the ribs with one of my knitting needles.
That should wake them up.

Mum21 said...

See Jane,
It worked...China is back.

There are a lot of uses for a knitting needle

Anonymous said...

good idea, but don't drop any more stitches Mum21....

chinadoll said...

Mum21,

That sounds painful.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Mum, can I put an order in for a pair of woolly knickers please. I'm getting frost bite where you dont want it!

Mum21 said...

Oh no, Jane. I dare not drop anymore stitches. If I do it will be more holes than scarf.

China, your parachute is coming on nicely. I have put some holes in it for ventilation.

Mum21 said...

Yes, Tinks...you can.
May I enquire what size?

I better start making a list because my orders are growing by the minute.

SeaWitch said...

Mum,

China may end up with ventilation holes in her if she uses your parachute!

Tinkerbell43 said...

Yes Mum, a size 8, ha that will give Rosie the hump, she'll never fit in them!

chinadoll said...

Nice one Mum21,

Just as well I like fresh air.

Who needs enemies with friends like you around? lol lol lol

Anyway, I think Tinks is an emergency case, she needs some bear necessities of life lol

Christabel said...

Hi all,

Tinks an 8, yeh warrever lol !

Mum21 said...

Shushhhhhh Tinks. Rosie might hear you. She has ears everywhere :-)

SeaWitch said...

Tinks,

Yes, but she'll swear it's only tight on the bust....!

Yeah, right!

Tinkerbell43 said...

China, you're not wrong, I'm freezing me thruppeny bits off.

Mum21 said...

Tinks...I think Christabel is jealous of your size 8.

At least she won't fit in them either.

Anonymous said...

You weren't wrong, just dozing. Can't seem to keep my eyes open. Off to bed fresh as a daisy mane I promise you.

Enjoy the rest of the night, sleep well.

chinadoll said...

Lol Tinks,

I have a half knitted parachute, if that helps (alledgedly)

You can have it on loan (at a reasonable rent lol)

Christabel said...

Mum,
neither will Tinks lol.
Come on Tinks admit it.

Mum21 said...

Night Helen
and God Bless

Rosiepops said...

Mum

Thanks for that, I have done it it is on the front page now.

What a special thought.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Night Helen,

Sleep well xx

archer said...

Night Helen

Sweet dreams.

Anonymous said...

HELEN

good night, sweet dreams

Rosiepops said...

Helen

Good night AA is that way >>>>>>>>

Sleep well take care xxx

chinadoll said...

Goodnight HelenM,

Chat soon - hopefully.

Sleep well.

Mum21 said...

Rosie of the many avatars
You are most welcome.

SeaWitch said...

China,

What are you saying about the size of Tinks' rear?!!

LOL

Rosiepops said...

Is swa Filtch still here or has she nicked all the ham?

Anonymous said...

archer

have you gon avatrmad onight? You are confusing me.....

and...making me hungry.

SeaWitch said...

Night Helen,

See you "mane"!

Rosiepops said...

Every time I get a new avatar someone says something about it, I am beginning to get avatar conscious lol

chinadoll said...

S..witch,

Nowt,

Just offering my parachute (incomplete)

Poor Tinks,

Come out of the cold lol

Mum21 said...

No Jane...Archer is trying to catch up with Rosie.
Got a long way to go yet though...bit like my knitting.

Anonymous said...

off to look for bag of crisps I blame you lot.

chinadoll said...

Rosiepops,

Personally, I always recognise you instantly with the heart avatar, if you remember it.

Probably not, you have been around the houses lately, lol.

SeaWitch said...

Rosie,

I ain't filtched nut'n,that's your special skill!

and I ain't no flitch, either...!

archer said...

Jane/Mum

Just wanted to get into the festive spirit.

Mum ... I saved the knitted ones specially for you lol

I shall revert back to normal after Easter. :¬)

Mum21 said...

That was kind of you Archer.
You cannot beat a knitted Easter Egg.

Anonymous said...

huh TYPICAL

daughter ate last bag so had to go out to car, and almost got blown away. It's really bitter out there so glad to be back in warm.

got my crisps so am happy bunny now

Anonymous said...

our feedjit map is very red......!!!

Mum21 said...

It is cold here too Jane.
I just put a couple more logs on the fire.

archer said...

Mum

That is true :¬) got them specially...bit fuzzy on the teeth though...

Anonymous said...

Right, any of you intellectual ladies have a clue what mane means? For years I have used this instead of tomorrow, copying it from some notes in another life. When I asked what mane weant I was told tomorrow. It is only now that methinks someone led me down the garden path. Am I right, is it another language or just something I dreamed? Maybe I should really stay clear of the alcohol!!!lol

Tinkerbell43 said...

Christabel,

Shan't, Won't!

archer said...

Jane

I asked about that before and nobody told me. How does that work. Does it register you when on the site or do you have to click on it?? Do you understand me?

Anonymous said...

MUM21

I adore the smell of log fires. Instant nostalgia......I envy you. I remember them as a child making fire toast. Oh ........

HELEN

I have never ever heard the word 'mane' used at all I am afraid. Google it and see what happens????

Mum21 said...

Archer...they are ok cos I take my teeth out first. te he he (especially for notdoc)

Helen, I have never heard the word mane. So yes, you better stay of the alcohol.

SeaWitch said...

helen,

I don't, but I am intrigued because you intimated it had something to do with your chosen career.

and I'm sooo nosey like that! ;-)

Anonymous said...

ARCHER

re feedjit

I think it registers you when you visit the site automatically. If you click on it it zooms in and tells you the % age of people and their area to nearest large city I believe. The moderators will know more than I do on this one.

Christabel said...

Tinks,

you tart, gerrup off ya back.
Rosie has packed the madam job in lol.

archer said...

Jane

Thanks for that. :¬)

Anonymous said...

Jane, not one of your better ideas, now whose leading me down the garden path ...... on a HORSE (mane, get it!!!)lol

Mum21 said...

I love a log fire too Jane. But I do tend to forget to make it up...then it goes out. Good job I have central heating too.

chinadoll said...

HelenM,

I am assuming that mane is short for manana.

If not, it means the hair on the neck of a horse.

Anyway, HelenM,

Have a goodnight - I am pleased to note that you have let your mane down.

We should all do that - now and then.

Anonymous said...

yes HELEN kind of thought you would also get 'horse' haha

it will give you other choices though? I recall rosiepops saying something like she hadn't heard that for years, so I think if you ask rosiepops she will be able to say a little more......????

Mum21 said...

Helen,
Did I also dream you went to bed?

Or are we just irresistible?

Anonymous said...

mum21

we have another 'frank sinatra' here don't e....yes she did go to bed. Maybe she got lost.

Mum21 said...

Jane,
Well she has totally confused me...and made me drop another stitch.

Tinkerbell43 said...

Christabel,

Bloody typical, I'm always the last to know!. When we were raided the other night, I told the police I was doing it for sports relief, so they gave me another i.o.u.

Christabel said...

Mum,

I found 2 sets, don't know if these are mine or yours, can you tell ?

Mum21 said...

Tinks,
You are as bad. Now I have dropped two stitches through laughing.

Anonymous said...

christabel

they are docmac's......


;o((((((((((((((((((((

Tinkerbell43 said...

Christabel,

lol, for once I'm not on my back, click my avatar :0)

Anonymous said...

I think Rosies word was 'intrigued'

Mum you noisy lot woke me up, you with the click clacking of knitting needles, Seawitch eating the ham, Jane munching her crisps, Tinks with her chattering teeth and finally Rosie banging on the wardrobe door!!! LOL. The only 'intellectual lady amongst you a noite is Chinadoll, but I'm sure she will make more noise than any of you as she falls to earth!!!!

Mum21 said...

Christabel,
I think those are yours...I still have mine in my mouth.

Tinkerbell43 said...

So mum, you are literally in stitches :0)

Anonymous said...

a noite HELEN???

tonight --- right????

hmmmmmm

Anonymous said...

Forgot Christabel, my my what BIG teeth you have!!

Mum21 said...

Helen,
I will knit quietly...just for you.
I will get out my rubber needles.

And NO, Rosie...you cannot have them

dianeh said...

Hi To Everyone

I ws reading back over today's comments and the bit about Malinka being beaten has raised a question in my mind.

How is it that he was questioned without a lawyer present? Same as Leonora? A suspect cannot be beaten infront of their lawyer. Surely the PJ are not interrogating people without proper legal counsel. Not that I have any personal experience but I thought that in Aust, UK, US etc, that the suspect is offered legal counsel prior to interview to ensure that the interview results are not excluded from any resulting court proceedings. Especially in serious crimes.

If this is the case, then there are many questions to be answered and long past time for an internal inquiry in Portugal.

chinadoll said...

HelenM,

I know I have holes in my parachute, courtesy of Mum21, but my wings are still working lol.

Go get a horlicks.

Christabel said...

Helen,

thats not nice now is it?

Anonymous said...

DIANE

good evening nice to be on at same time for a change

Yes, the whole system seems to be run by their 'own' rues which is not right at all. It allows them to manipulate the evidence they 'want' to appear......and use 'their means' to get it.

Not right at all. Something has to be done about this. After this case being brought out, I trust it will very soon.

chinadoll said...

Is HelenM seriously trying to convince us she is off to bed lol lol lol?

Perhaps she is just sleep walking?

Mum21 said...

Diane,
I may be wrong..but I do believe I remember alsa saying that in Portugal they are not entitled to have a lawyer present. I thought she said the McCann's had special treatment by being allowed to have a lawyer present.

Can anyone remember this?
Or did I dream it?

Rosiepops said...

Blimey Tinks have you been on the same stuff that Helen was on yesterday?

Rosiepops said...

Mum

I do remember her saying something like that, but you never know with that one if she is just making it up as goes along!

Anonymous said...

Yes ROSIEPOPS

I remember that too re the lawyer not being allowed.....the antis did not like it either and posted their irritation at McCanns treated differently.....

chinadoll said...

Diane,

Well said.

What have the investigating officers got to hide?

Certainly, not evidence.

Why the truncheon tactics?

Underhand and desperate, springs to mind.

Rosiepops said...

Hi Diane

how are you, are you just getting up?

Anonymous said...

Hi Diane, sorry for the noise on here a noite.

If I remember rightly Alsabella informed us that 'witnesses' are interviewed without legal counsel. I think Kate Mccann when she was interviewed the first time in Portimao did not have legal counsel in the room with her, althoughhe was present at the headquarters. It was only the next days questioning when she was made n arguida that he was allowed in.

I think you will find that in the UK police can also interview witnesses without legal counsel, but obviously the difference here is that the 'witness' has a choice.

Mum21 said...

Yes, that is what I remember too Jane.
But as Rosie says....that may have just been Alsa's law.

Anonymous said...
This comment has been removed by the author.
Rosiepops said...

The law According To Alsabliar!

Anonymous said...

chinadoll

great phrase that 'truncheon tactics' must remember that one.

Mum21 said...

You back again Helen?

Now you see her...now you don't.:-)

dianeh said...

Rosie

I am having a crappy Easter so far. My older dog is very sick and my partner has just taken her to the vet. I am hoping it isnt a stroke but she wont eat, is staggering around, very very sick. She is a 12 yo Collier, Belgian Shepherd cross and is the most docile beautiful dog, who will let kids climb all over her. I said good bye to her, just in case she isnt coming back. She is THAT sick.

Anyway, the reason for my post to your. I was sitting here feeling sorry for myself when I saw your post about notdoc and prat. The bit about POTB not being a real rat, made me laugh out loud.

Thank you. I really needed that laugh.

Anonymous said...

I know MUM21 Helen is back

Portimao comes up on feedjit, I know she doesn't live there just that it's on our very red feedjit tonight....

Tinkerbell43 said...

Murat has also allegedly described his own experience with the PJ as "not being very pleasant"!. Even down to allegedly being given just a glass of water during 19 hours of interrogations.

Rosiepops said...

That is not new either apparently according to Leonor cipriano's solicitor Jaeo Grade, Leonor was interviews for 46 hours with only a 2 hour respite and a confession obtained, while she was forced to kneel on broken glass ashtrays WITHOUT her solicitor present.

As soon as her solicitor discovered she had confessed the next day, the statement was withdrawn immediately.

But The Law According To Alsabliar, thinks this is OK and that her sainted PJ, never did this, strange that Leonor's Solicitor wasn't there and can testify to this isn't it?

chinadoll said...

That's right

and may I add, that it was a Portuguese lawyer advising/insisting Kate did not answer certain questions.

Perhaps he was more au fait with the system and knew where the line of enquiry was leading.

Kate relied and depended on the Portuguese lawyer and ever since, the Portuguese have done nothing but rip her to bits.

The Portuguese lawyer - an expert in the law of the land, advised Kate to keep schtum.

Ever since, she has been criticised for following Portuguese legal advice.



EH ?

Anonymous said...

DIANE

I hope your dog pulls through. Nothing worse than seeing an animal suffer.

Mum21 said...

Diane,
Did the illness come on suddenly...or has she been sick for a few days?

dianeh said...

Thank you for all the replies about the questioning without a lawyer. I dont remember Alsa's comments about lawyers but then I didnt always see everything on the DX, you guys used to make 1,000's of posts and I didnt have time to go back over them.

I had to rush off briefly and make a bottle. Little 2 yo boy annoying going bot-tle bot-tle bot-tle. Laying on the couch now watching Bunny town on Playhouse disney. So very quiet and contented.

No, I didnt just get out of bed. how I wish it were so. Got woken up at 7 am by little boy wanting first bottle of the day. Have bathed and fed kids and just now made it to the computer, after having found our vet and organising her to come into the surgery to see the dog.

Anonymous said...

Jane your very red feejit sounds painful, do you need me?

dianeh said...

And for all you curry lovers. Here is my Easter Saturday.

We are having Indian for tea tonight, down on the river bank. We both won meat trays at the local raffle. We are having home cooked,
Beef Madras
Tandoori Chicken (done in the bbq)
Rice and Veges (for the kids)
Naan bread

And I think some Champagne followed by a bottle of red.

How does that sound?

Rosiepops said...

Diane

What is wrong with your dog?

chinadoll said...

Diane,

May I just bid you goodnight.

Not many people have what you have got on your plate and I for one, do not wish to add to it.

Keep strong Diane.

Rosiepops said...

Diane it sounds lovely, but I have weirdly lost my appetite, even though I feel like I have eaten non stop for ages!

Tinkerbell43 said...

Well lovely people, I'm hitting the sack. Take care all, see you tomorrow xx

Mum21 said...

WOW Diane...don't worry about us in this freezing cold weather...as you sit on the river bank supping champagne.
We will be fine...frozen to death...but fine.

dianeh said...

Mum21

Muffy (that is our sick dog) was a bit wobbly on Thursday but only after she stood up, then seemed right. My partner said she never ate her food on Thursday either. I also noticed on Wed afternoon there was puke around the yard, and again on Thurs and then again of Fri.

If it was a bait, she would have been very sick straight away, same with snake bite or spider bite.

I am hoping it is an inner ear infection but the reason I am so worried it that she hasnt eaten for two days and when she tries to drink, she falls over sideways, as well as cant walk properly.

Anonymous said...

Diane, I'll have some of that but can I miss out on the champagne and red wine, don't think I'll be forgiven again.

So sorry to hear about your dog, they become so much part of the family don't they?

Mum21 said...

Diane,
I asked because I once had a dog with the same symptoms. It turned out she had swallowed a stone.

Anonymous said...

DIANE

that meal sounds lovely wish I lived nearer. Enjoy!!!!

HELEN

I told you to get that huge green coat off as we need it for our tent tomorrow. Now be good. Take if off. My feedjit is fine that you. all is well........????

archer said...

Diane

When we are worried and stressed its so easy to think the worst - hopefully she will be ok. I will be thinking of you.

dianeh said...

Living on the riverbank is why we moved from Brisbane to outback NSW. That and to be close to my family.

There are drawbacks though. We have a shortage of doctors (my town cant even get one, not even an imported one). There is no paediatrician in our nearest city, the local ENT specialist will not treat my daughter so we have to periodically travel to Adelaide. You cant get a vet over Xmas or Easter, or any long weekend for that matter. Fresh seafood is very expensive. So is petrol. Petrol has just hit $1.50 a litre over Easter. It went up 15c on thursday.

Childcare is hard to get but I am lucky I have Mum. Actually, without her I wouldnt be able to work. My daughter is not to go into Daycare with other children, as there is too many colds and flus and things that are too dangerous for her. She does go to pre-school but that is better, as they dont allow sick kids there.

But all in all, I love it in the country. When I go to the supermarket I always see someone I know for a chat. In Brisbane in 9 years I only ran into people I knew a handful of times. So I dont miss the big city, except for the shopping. I used to work in the centre of Brisbane and of course shopped as often as I could. I think my partner is secretly glad that I work from home now. No more lunch time shopping.

Sorry for hogging the space on the blog.

Mum21 said...

Well ladies...I will bid you good night.
Sleep well and God Bless.

Diane,
Could you leave a message on here as to how your dog gets on at the vet's.
Thanks.

Rosiepops said...

Diane

I have been flitting back and forth so didn't catch your earlier post regarding your dog.

I am so sorry, I know exactly what you are going through, having gone through this a few weeks back.

I had to take the decision to put my big old boy border collie to sleep and it was hard but I console myself with the thought that we done what was best for him, not us. I still miss him badly but am remembering the good times.

Everyone on and the DX was so kind to me and helped me through, so you let us help you if the worse comes to worse. xxx

Regards to rat she just looks like one, apparently she hasn't been seen for the past couple of days, looks like she has deserted her own sinking ship, or perhaps she detects the anti ship is going down?

Anonymous said...

Goodnight Tinks, sleep well.

If Jane doesn't need my services a noite I'll say adeus, ate amanha ( or mane whichever suits you best!!)

Sleep well.

So long, farewell aufweidershen .........
adeu, adeu to you and you and you,
GOODNIGHT...........

Rosiepops said...

Oh no it is a blizzard outside!

dianeh said...

Mum21

She did have some meat from the neighbour on Wed but we pulled all of the bones out, as both of my dogs have a tendency to gulp down any meat, bones and all.

We did think that it may be something like that (bone???). She is in pain. And I am trying not to think the worst.

Thank you and everyone else for your kind words.

Anonymous said...

DIANE

you are not hogging space at all. lovely to hear your news. I am thinking of your dog too., We all are.

GOOD NIGHT EVERYONE, TOO NUMEROUS TO NAME.

catch you again soon I trust.

take care.

x
;o)
JANE

archer said...

Night Mum

Don't swallow your teeth!!!

Sleep well xx

Rosiepops said...

Tinks

Judging by your earlier picture I thought you had already hit the sack!

Is it snowing where you are? It is pelting down here a blizzard!

Glad to see you are up tinking about again!

archer said...

Night Jane

Sleep well too.

(Corned Beef Hash and garlic bread with sweet chilli beans tomorrow)

dianeh said...

Mum21

Will leave message with outcome.

Rosie

I remember when you had to put down your beloved dog. I was very sad for you. I have done it before a few times and it never gets easy. Sometimes I think it is better when it is an accident and you have no choice.

Incidentally, my other dog is a 4you black & white border collie called Cassie. And she has one black and one white patched eye. She is smart and quite naughty

My partner is back from the Vet, with the dog, will let you know in a minute what it is

Rosiepops said...

Mum

The last time I saw your teeth they were on Alsabliar's ample rear!

Mum21 said...

Diane...Just keep us informed please. Many of us on here are also great dog lovers. I could not be without my two labradors...they are the best friends in the world.
Poppy...my female...is sleeping here on my feet now. Snoring her head off.
I will be thinking of you.

Rosiepops said...

Thinking of you Diane xxx

Rosiepops said...

My little dog is called Cassie!
cassie wassie woo woo, girly whirly curly!

dianeh said...

Everyone

Good news on the dog front.

She has an acute pancreas condition brought on by the lamb chops the neighbour gave her on Wed. Apparently too fatty.

Vet said that we were right to be worried, as this kills. BUT also if treated in time is very easy to fix. So after a couple of needles and some other medicine, Vet expects Muffy to pick up a lot by tomorrow and almost back to normal by Tuesday.

between us, my partner and I had a fight about taking Muffy to the vet this morning. He reckoned I was overreacting. He just sheepishly admitted that I was right and Muffy wouldnt have lasted till Tuesday.

Men !!!!!

Mum21 said...

Rosie,
Is she a puppy still?

dianeh said...

Rosie

What sort of dog is your Cassie?

Mum21 said...

Wonderful news Diane...I am so pleased for you.
Now I can go to bed happy.

Rosiepops said...

Fantastic Diane, great news I am so happy for you I can feel your relief and happiness here. xxx

chinadoll said...

Diane,

What is going on,

PLEASE put me out of my misery,

I cannot go to bed, unless I get an update.

Hello???????/

archer said...

Diane

Thats good news. Woman's intuition!!!!!

dianeh said...

China

Have done, 23.55 post.

She will be alright but if we had waited any longer, she wouldnt have been.

Mum21 said...

No Rosie...they got stuck. So now I walk around with her fat ar-e in my face.

Rosiepops said...

China, the dog is fine lol Diane just said scroll up a little.

Anonymous said...

Diane, stayed up for the news. So glad to hear that with careful nursing he will get better. Pancreatitis is a very painful condition in humans, I'm sure it must be the same for dogs. In young men especialy it can prove fatal,(usually these men have been binge drinking, to bring on this condition) A lesson to us all.

Enjoy the rest of your day with your family.

Rosiepops said...

Mum

PMSL

be careful when do you come up for air?

SeaWitch said...

Diane,

Your lifestyle sounds idyllic. How wonderful to have so much space and freedom.

I adore my dogs. Whenever I am not working, they go everywhere with me. Dogs are the most trustworthy, uncomplicated, non-judgemental companions who never let you down in the same way that humans tend to.

I’m glad your little friend is on the mend x

Goiodnight, everyone x x

dianeh said...

To all of you who care about things, even my dog.

Thank you very much for your kind words. I am very happy at the moment. I know she will go one day, she is 12, which is old for a large dog but hopefully it wont be for a while yet.

Rosiepops said...

Helen

right that's it your use of mane and now that , you have to be!

Mum21 said...

Now Ladies..I really am going to bed. That is if I can get my Poppy (dog) off my feet and my teeth out of a certain persons backside.
Night all.

dianeh said...

Mum21

Regarding the a..e in your face. You are a naughty nanny, arent you.

Rosiepops said...

Don't let the dog bite the backside or the dog will need a tetanus shot!

archer said...

Mum

Yuk,that's not a pleasant visualisation...you'll have to sleep on your back then ! Or upright propped up in the corner.

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